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Posted by bozeman on February 21, 2003, at 23:30:41
When new to this site it can be really hard to navigate . . . easy to miss things . . . . can't imagine anyone would have intentionally dissed you . . . and even if they did . . . . I still love reading your gentle, intelligent, thoughtful posts. :)
bozeman
Posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 1:14:10
In reply to Miller, posted by bozeman on February 21, 2003, at 23:30:41
Bozeman,
Thank you SO much for that. I was really feeling bad for days. I needed someone to be nice to me.
I'll know better next time, I guess. Thanks for saving my blues from turning into purples. :)
Thankfully,
Miller
Posted by Dinah on February 22, 2003, at 6:14:17
In reply to Re: Miller » bozeman, posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 1:14:10
Aww, Miller. I'm sorry you're feeling badly about it.
But know that you are firmly embraced in the fold here, and people care quite a bit about you.
(At least I do, and while I can't speak for others, it would appear that they do too.)
Posted by rayww on February 22, 2003, at 8:57:09
In reply to Miller, posted by bozeman on February 21, 2003, at 23:30:41
> When new to this site it can be really hard to navigate . . . easy to miss things . . . . can't imagine anyone would have intentionally dissed you . . . and even if they did . . . . I still love reading your gentle, intelligent, thoughtful posts. :)
>
> bozeman
I love reading your posts too Miller. you are so thoughtfully kind. If you read Dena's posts you would see she is a mother of 7 who home schools her children and who battles negativity and depression. Her focus is on her belief in God, and since she is new here, on trying to navigate properly. The question she asked in her introduction,
"Anyone else out there dealing with trying to pray when depression/negativity seems to get in the way?" has not been addressed either.I see both as pure oversights. Perhaps she, though willing to share her testimony, did not wish to be held up as a light and example to everyone quite yet, and maybe she is still writing and thinking, trying to determine what her turning point actually was. She may have described it in another post, thinking she was responding to your welcome in that way.
How many times have I and others reached out on these forums and have not been responded to? Embarrassing, but for some reason most of us keep coming back.
I was really happy to see your welcome to Dena, as you hadn't been back to faith since my bannishment. Your "sadness" post helped to cheer me up when I wasn't allowed to post, and believe me I had a lot to say in those two weeks on a lot of topics.
Why else would we keep coming back, if not to write to ourselves? In a wonderful book I am reading, "If You Want to Write" it explains the basic need for daily expression, and extolls it because of the uniqueness and individuality of each person.
Posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 9:43:03
In reply to Re: Miller » Miller, posted by Dinah on February 22, 2003, at 6:14:17
Dinah,
Thank you fo rthe support. For a while there I thought you had stopped stalking my posts :) I hope that isn't the case.
I know it is probably foolish to be hurt in a forum such as this, but I was all the same.
I do believe it was magnified because it was on the Faith board as well. I want someone, so badly, to help me re-embrace my Faith, or to help me make sense of why I can't, I guess I expect too much.
Thanks for looking out for me.
-Miller
Posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 9:51:49
In reply to Re: Miller, posted by rayww on February 22, 2003, at 8:57:09
Rayww,
Thank you for your kind words. Alos, for helping me to understand that Dena has a lot more to think aboout than my posts and confusion.
As for my "sadness" post, I am so glad you found comfort in it. I meant what I said in that post. I really admire you for having such convictions in your beliefs.
I used to believe that it was the fault of my depression that I couldn't stand firm to my Faith. Then I blamed my low self esteem. Hardest yet, is to see that neither of those should be a factor in how I view religion or God. That is a big pill to swallow.
So, I have been looking for a way to try to get myself from making excuses and to start being the person God has provided.
Anyway, I am done bending your ear. I really appreciate the comfort you sent. Thank you.
-Miller
Posted by Dinah on February 22, 2003, at 11:34:01
In reply to Re: Miller » Dinah, posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 9:43:03
> Dinah,
>
> Thank you fo rthe support. For a while there I thought you had stopped stalking my posts :) I hope that isn't the case.
>
> I know it is probably foolish to be hurt in a forum such as this, but I was all the same.
>
> I do believe it was magnified because it was on the Faith board as well. I want someone, so badly, to help me re-embrace my Faith, or to help me make sense of why I can't, I guess I expect too much.
>
> Thanks for looking out for me.
>
> -Miller
>
Quit stalking you? Never on purpose. I'm just finding the longer threads hard to comprehend right now.When I'm feeling better, I'd love to talk faith with you. I'm sure I've recommended this book before, but the first half of it discusses faith and our relationship to God in a way that really meshes well with mine. Despite the name of the book, it is not a solely Jewish viewpoint. I belong to a Christian denomination, although I am admittedly somehwat unorthodox. The second half is more about the Jewish religion and holidays, etc.
"To Life!: A Celebration of Jewish Being and Thinking" by Kushner.
For some reason it always makes me feel better to read that book. Maybe when I'm feeling well enough I'll read it for the fourth or fifth time.
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Posted by bozeman on February 22, 2003, at 12:04:24
In reply to Re: Miller, posted by Dinah on February 22, 2003, at 11:34:01
> When I'm feeling better, I'd love to talk faith with you. I'm sure I've recommended this book before, but the first half of it discusses faith and our relationship to God in a way that really meshes well with mine. Despite the name of the book, it is not a solely Jewish viewpoint. I belong to a Christian denomination, although I am admittedly somehwat unorthodox. The second half is more about the Jewish religion and holidays, etc.
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> "To Life!: A Celebration of Jewish Being and Thinking" by Kushner.
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> For some reason it always makes me feel better to read that book. Maybe when I'm feeling well enough I'll read it for the fourth or fifth time.
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>I love Kushner's work as well, and I also am not Jewish. One of my favorites is "When All You've Ever Wanted Isn't Enough". Very poignant for me.
I'm going through a really stressful and time-intensive situation right now, but I also would love to talk faith with you, soon. I'm going through a similiar thing as what I think you said, Miller -- why can't I be what I (believe) God wants me to be? Why am I in a relationship with a man who loves me, loves God intensely, but can't love himself? Why can't I just take baby steps and fix my problems? I usually know what it will take, just can't seem to get it done by the end of the day. Is it Satan throwing up roadblocks on me? Or am I just not well enough yet to overcome all the inertial baggage of the past?
Etc. etc. etc.
I could talk about this stuff all day and night. But it would require my full presence, and right now my life requires my full presence, until my kitty is well, my boyfriend is either in or out, my lungs clear up so I don't have to take "tired" pills all the time, etc.
But you are loved and valuable. Let's pick up this thread again when we can spend some time -- and strength -- to explore it.
bozeman
Posted by Dena on February 22, 2003, at 18:48:18
In reply to Re: Miller, posted by rayww on February 22, 2003, at 8:57:09
Rayww - thanks for coming to my defense, & so beautifully, too! Hopefully by now, Miller will have read my response (finally written!) to his welcome. I've been sick-sick-sick w/ high fever, etc. (complicated by having my meds reduced to prepared for a switch - hate the withdrawals!!!). And yes, I'm still quite the newbie when it comes to navigating this site. I usually learn by hard-knocks, so please continue to extend the mercy! Thanks!
Posted by bozeman on February 22, 2003, at 19:56:07
In reply to Re: Miller » bozeman, posted by Miller on February 22, 2003, at 1:14:10
No problem, dear. We sensitive girls gotta help each other out when we can, huh? :-)
bozeman
Posted by rayww on February 22, 2003, at 23:30:30
In reply to Re: Miller » rayww, posted by Dena on February 22, 2003, at 18:48:18
I'm so sorry to hear of your illness. I hope your family continues to recover. I came to your defense because I understand the difficulty in navigating here. I'm forever posting to the wrong board, or getting off on a tangent that doesn't belong anywhere. I am super sensitive too, but my worst feelings come after I write something dumb, and the feelings are against myself, not anyone else.
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