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Posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 18:39:37
Lou-
You made this post back in March (I believe)....please tell me the point in following your illusion if you still have the same afflictions and depression as you did before?
In the most upmost civil and supportive way-
Kiddo
> Friends;
> No none has done any of those things on this thread for it was agreed that I would condense and others would not interrupt. The problems happenend on other threads.
> But I must have freedom in order to write what happened at the 6th and 7th Gate on the Road to the Crown of Life. I do not even have the freedom to be me on this board. I am just like you and suffer the same afflictions as you. I have OCD. I have depression. I hear things. I have unusuall excitement.I have memory lapse. I have been to the psych ward. I have been to the Vally of the Shadow of Death. AndI have seen the comming of the Glory of the Lord. I want all of you to see that comming. But I must be free to tell you without the fear of being what I am.
> You have been the pillars of this board. You have held up many that are fallen. And I believe that you are sincerer in wanting me to continue with the Road that leads to the Crown of Life.
> Now you have seen that the pillars in my life are Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. They peer out on all of my posts. They have not died for they live in our hearts. They recieved the Crown of Life. They overcame. I want all of you to overcome.
> Now if I am to return to tis board then I must have the following:
> a)That Dr. Bob immmediatly suspend the "pressue" rule in his civility rules untill they are revised to accomodate the afflictions that we all have.
> b) That Dr. Bob forgive all those that are under a block and allow them to return to fellowship with the others on this board immediatly.
> I would like to finish the Road, for it is the 6th and 7th Gate that lead you to the Truth that will set you free.
> Lou
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 18:52:33
In reply to Re: Lou , posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 18:39:37
Lou:
Is this is the only road that leads to the "Crown of Life"? If one does not choose to travel by that road, what happens when one dies?
- KK
Posted by Greg on July 22, 2002, at 19:43:07
In reply to the Road that leads to the Crown of Life - Lou, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 18:52:33
You started this story in January. You claimed it was of the utmost importance and would lead us to a life free of depression. Why then, nearly seven months later, have you still not finished telling it? It would seem to me that you would let nothing stand in your way of disclosing a revelation such as this.
Respectfully,
Greg
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:50:36
In reply to Re: Lou , posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 18:39:37
Kiddo,
Thank you for bringing up that question. You see, I am talking about overcomming. I still have my affliction. But I now have a power to overcome the affliction. I can say to the suicide thought to vanish when they come. I can say to the intrusive thoughts to not annoy me when they come. I can say to the depression when it comes that it will not overcome me, for I have overcome it, and the Rider said to me, "You will be tormented in the world, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world and you shall also."
You see, we are slaves to these afflictions, but in The City of Peace, you are set free from their controll over you. But on the way back, I found out that to keep free, there are conditions.
Lou
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:11:21
In reply to Lou 's response to Kiddo's post » kiddo, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:50:36
Lou:
What are the conditions? And I am wondering if that can be discussed here since that indicates that a person must meet a certain criteria or perform certain acts to get to the Crown, and that's exclusionary like there being only one road to heaven... we'll see how Dr. Bob feels...
- KK
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:16:37
In reply to conditions... » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:11:21
KK,
It would be absurd to think that one could do anything that they wanted to. Could you committ adultery? ,Murder?, So conditions are not like the "one road".
I will explaine this in a separate thread .
Lou
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:19:43
In reply to Re: conditions... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:16:37
I think that perhaps your misread my post? Not sure, but your reply doesn't make sense to me.
Could you please clarify it in relation to my question so I can better understand?
Thanks much.
- KK
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:20:57
In reply to Re: conditions... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:16:37
about the road to the crown of life. it is very important to me that you do.
thank you.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:23:08
In reply to please answer my post above, lou..., posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:20:57
KK,
It i my understandng that you asked about the conditions to *keep* the Crown I wrote "comming back from the road"
Lou
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:31:27
In reply to Re: please answer my post above, lou... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:23:08
Lou:
Is this is the only road that leads to the "Crown of Life"? If one does not choose to travel by that road, what happens when one dies?
- KK
Please? Thanks!
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:37:45
In reply to Re: please answer my post above, lou... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:23:08
> KK,
> It i my understandng that you asked about the conditions to *keep* the Crown I wrote "comming back from the road"
> Lou
Um, I'll try that "please rephrase the question" approach mentioned an admin awhile back:You wrote "to keep free, there are conditions".
I asked what those conditions were. But I was worried that since a condition means "a term, a covenant, an ultimatum" etc. that listing them would not be supportive. If one Has to keep those conditions to stay "free", it is demanding the same thing as traveling one "road" or choosing one religion to eternal bliss.
Does that make more sense?
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:44:36
In reply to this is the post i need answered » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:31:27
KK,
God is a God of justice. God is not a respector of persons.
God revealed these things to me by an experiance. I know that this experiance is extreme. So there are experiances in a continuim. Now when I was in the City of Peace, I was told by the Rider," Every eye shall see me." "I will appear to all."
You see, if I was given this experiance, so shall you. I am no one special.
But you asked about the others. KK, It was revealed to me that hell was prepared for the devil and his followers, and those are the ones that are in rebellion to God. Hell was not prepared for man.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:26
In reply to I will rephrase my post about conditions..., posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:37:45
KK,
If there were no conditions, there would be no road.
Lou
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:50
In reply to this is the post i need answered » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:31:27
Lou, in kiddo's post above you said you suffered from OCD and depression.
In a post a few weeks before, all you mentioned was that you were bipolar.
I'm confused, Lou.
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:52:11
In reply to Re: I will rephrase my post about conditions... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:26
thanks for your answer, lou. i actually the thought of hell as a place for the fallen angels and not for mankind, but then that's the peaceful soul that i am.
can you please answer my question re: is there only one road to the crown? or are the many roads? what happens if one does not meet the conditions?
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:52:49
In reply to Re: I will rephrase my post about conditions... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:26
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 23, 2002, at 5:56:13
In reply to Re: this is the post i need answered, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:50
Phil,
I am not a psychiatrist , but I believe that these afflictions all share a common denominator. So OCD is part of bipolar, and depression is part of OCD and they all overlap IMO. Now in my case, being bipolar, depression probably is more manifested in me than OCD. So I believe that we are all having a common denominator, it is just what manifests itself at the time that gives a diagnosis. I know a woman with OCD of the hording type, but also has depression with complete loss of feelings of joy or pleasure. Now that could be bipolar to one and OCD to another. I really do not know. I know a man who goes all over the world an doesn't remember that he did it. He is diagnosed as bipolar, and I also had a little of that, but not like this man. He is like this pretty much. He ends up in Sweden and does not know anything about it. He is also a world class pianoist and singer. So I also beleive that these afflictions can trigger brilliance in th lives of us at different times. In history, you read of th brilliant and artistic people like Michelangelo, Vincent van Goeh, Ludwig von Beethoven, Liberace, Issac Newton, and many others. I believe that these peeople shared a common denominator and that we have that same gem in us. It just manifests itself differently to each of us. Now if there is a way to change that lump of coal into a diamond, then that would be a great thing. I believe that we have that potential.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 23, 2002, at 6:12:58
In reply to is it one road? and only one road? » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:52:11
KK,
I can only tell you what I have experianced. But I will say this. The manifistation that I am reiterating here, is NOT the only way for the manifistation to occur. In other words, just because there was an appearing to me of a Rider on a White Horse, that does not mean that what was revealed to me in that appearance would also be revealed in the same form to others. I know a person that had this type of revaling but the way it was revealed to her was through a gardener that appeared to her. I know of a man that had an appearing by a face in a pillar in a court house. I know of a man that expeianced an appearing in the form of a stranger while traveling. I know of a man that was lost in a forest and a man appeared in tribal regaillia and spoke the book of Isaiah to him in fluent Hebrew and led him out of the wilderness where he was greeted by another man and was saved from starvation and dehydration . I know of a case of a women that had a man appear to her on a motorcycle. The man led her out of the bondage to drugs and she became a whole new person. And more. But the point is that we all hae different experiances. But the end result is the same. Freedom.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 23, 2002, at 6:26:38
In reply to one more question - are there forks in the road? (nm) » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:52:49
KK,
Yes, there are forks in the Road. I am going to tell of one in the 6th and 7th Gates.
At that fork, the Rider said to me," I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; Thearfore choose life, that both you and your decendants may live. I will show you the path of life and in the presance of God there is fullness of joy and pleasures for evermore."
Lou
Posted by Dinah on July 23, 2002, at 6:29:46
In reply to Re: this is the post i need answered, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 21:47:50
I don't know how common the combination is, but I too suffer from OCD and am also somewhere on the bipolar spectrum (although not Bipolar I - the code on my receipt is cyclothymia). I believe that comorbidity among psychiatric disorders is not uncommon.
Hope this helps.
Posted by Phil on July 23, 2002, at 6:52:58
In reply to Re: Bipolar and OCD » Phil, posted by Dinah on July 23, 2002, at 6:29:46
I realize that. My point was, in one post, Lou says he's bipolar. Just bipolar.
In another post, he says he has depression and OCD, nothing about bipolar mentioned.
Posted by Dinah on July 23, 2002, at 7:36:37
In reply to Re: Bipolar and OCD » Dinah, posted by Phil on July 23, 2002, at 6:52:58
I'm sure you can find similar posts of mine Phil. Does it mean something that I am unaware of?
Posted by fachad on July 23, 2002, at 9:03:16
In reply to the Road that leads to the Crown of Life - Lou, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 18:52:33
KK,
Shame on you KK, you knew I couldn’t leave this one alone.
>If one does not choose to travel by that road, what happens when one dies?
Let's see what the Bible says about people who go spiritually off-roading:
"The same shall drink of the wine of the WRATH of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation: and he shall be TORMENTED with FIRE and BRIMSTONE in the presence on the Lamb: And the smoke of their TORMENT acendeth up FORVER AND FOREVER."
Revelation 14:10-11
Yikes, that sounds pretty harsh. Maybe you'd better just keep to the road.
-fachad
> Lou:
>
> Is this is the only road that leads to the "Crown of Life"? If one does not choose to travel by that road, what happens when one dies?
>
> - KK
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 23, 2002, at 10:34:15
In reply to is it one road? and only one road? » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:52:11
> You started this story in January. You claimed it was of the utmost importance and would lead us to a life free of depression. Why then, nearly seven months later, have you still not finished telling it?
>
> Greg> Is this is the only road that leads to the "Crown of Life"? If one does not choose to travel by that road, what happens when one dies?
>
> - KK> please answer my post above, lou...
> about the road to the crown of life. it is very important to me that you do.
>
> - KK> Please? Thanks!
>
> - KK> can you please answer my question re: is there only one road to the crown? or are the many roads? what happens if one does not meet the conditions?
>
> - KKPlease don't pressure others, thanks.
> What are the conditions? And I am wondering if that can be discussed here since that indicates that a person must meet a certain criteria or perform certain acts to get to the Crown, and that's exclusionary like there being only one road to heaven... we'll see how Dr. Bob feels...
>
> - KKWhat I feel is, saying a road has conditions is different than saying it's the only road.
Bob
Posted by krazy kat on July 23, 2002, at 14:59:09
In reply to Re: one more question - are there forks in the road? » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 23, 2002, at 6:26:38
Did you feel pressured, Lou? Dr. Bob gave me a PBC for asking you to answer these questions. I cannot follow a long post well so I need shorter questions answered.
I apologize if I pressured you.
Maybe it should be called "One Road to the Crown of Life" then? What do you think? And since there are forks (it gets complicated, doesn't it!) maybe "One Road to the Crown of Life with Pitstops on the Way"? That's not the right word, but I'm thinking there must be breaks or what have you...
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