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Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on May 12, 2007, at 14:47:49
I have lost about 10 pounds in 6 weeks. and this has been a very stressful 6 weeks.
I haven't lost it the right way either. Aside from some encounters in which there were other people present I'm just nibble here and there.
no motivation to cook. no motivation to do anything remotely domestic. And no motivation to go out and buy more food when my fridge is stocked. savvy?
T had me do some relaxation exercises related to eating, but it's hard to eat.
I even barfed up half my breakfast and one of my psychmeds this morning. (real barf, not induced barf)
what the hell is THAT about?
This sucks.
Well. At least I had ample reserves to start off with. we can thank seroquel for THAT. hmmph
-Ll
Posted by sunnydays on May 12, 2007, at 22:39:03
In reply to can stress really do this?, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on May 12, 2007, at 14:47:49
(((((Llurpsie)))))
Yeah, stress can totally destroy appetite. I lost about 30 pounds when I came to college because I was so incredibly anxious and stressed, I felt full as soon as I ate one bite of food and I just couldn't stand eating. Unfortunately, I seem to now eat everything in sight... but that's another story.
I hope the relaxation exercises help a little. Try to take a bite of food and make yourself eat every half hour or so if you can't eat a meal. At least it will get something in you.
sunnydays
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on May 22, 2007, at 11:36:35
In reply to Re: can stress really do this? » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by sunnydays on May 12, 2007, at 22:39:03
So fatigued but so little appetite.
Been losing only about a pound or so a week, so I'm not in emergency situation. I have ample reserves, but I'm having a hard time with my appetite.
I don't know whether it's depression or anxiety or just a bad habit I've picked up.
All I know is that stomach says hungry. brain says yuck. food.
At least I'm eating some chili for lunch today. Liquids aren't so bad.
-Ll
Posted by scratchpad on May 22, 2007, at 19:35:20
In reply to not eating enough calories, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on May 22, 2007, at 11:36:35
How about one of those old people's drinks (like Ensure?). blechhh.
I don't think i could handle that, so instead try
1 banana
1 cup favorite juice (I like apricot nectar)
2 tbs wheat germ
some frozen berriesand whir it all up in your blender for a frozen concoction. I like to keep it simple if i'm feeling urpie. which is different from llurpsie.
sp
Posted by karen_kay on May 23, 2007, at 6:13:14
In reply to Re: not eating enough calories » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by scratchpad on May 22, 2007, at 19:35:20
(((((old lady drinks, martini's included, though i never quite undersand why people keep getting them confused with ensure?????)))))))
i hope you didn't catch kk disease dear li. does your osteoporosis meds aid in your nonappetite, you think? it was just a thought...
wish i had something good to tell you dear. vanilla is a good flavor to just 'get down' if you need to 'get it down', you know?
(((((li)))))) i can sympathize at least...
also, you are dealing with a whole lot right now dear. don't forget that, ok? do you have a 'funny belly' that doesn't allow you to eat when you have a lot of stress going on in your head? with me, it just comes down to forcing myself. and the vanilla ones really don't taste that much different than milk, if you drink them as fast as you can. run, hide in your kitchen and drink it as fast as possible. at least it'll give you the energy to get you through the day. and you won't have the added stress of thinking 'i'm not eating, i'm not eating' i know that train runs through my head nonstop until i finally eat.take care of yourself li. you've accomplished so much, in such short period of time dear. the stress of everythign else, along with left-over stress has to emerge somewhere. sweetie, i wish i had soemthing very useful and wise to say, but i'm dealing with the same thing right now.
just take care of the wonderful noodle. and think of how much your body loves you when you eat some garlic, mushrooms (hey, not those kind!) and duck (hey, not my son!).
Posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2007, at 15:09:41
In reply to hey sp!!!! and ((((li)))), posted by karen_kay on May 23, 2007, at 6:13:14
Protein shakes from the health food store are great for no appetite gives you your protein. I drink one each night as I have no taste true for three years and food is horrible to me. Love Phillipa
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 4, 2007, at 20:08:32
In reply to hey sp!!!! and ((((li)))), posted by karen_kay on May 23, 2007, at 6:13:14
The shakes are a good idea. I have a lot of smoothie supplies and a lot of whey protein to boost them up.
The good news is that when I'm around people I actually eat. I have actually been eating well for a whole 10 days now!!!
And my stomach capacity is back to normal, which is size L on me
((kk)) I would never catch your disease. I use protection!
Posted by karen_kay on June 19, 2007, at 11:45:08
In reply to kk and phillipa » karen_kay, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 4, 2007, at 20:08:32
that's what i don't get...
i think it's the paranoia setting in...
are you eating well now dear?
i had a grilled cheese yesterday for lunch and a bowl of raisin bran for dinner (ok, it was at midnight, but that counts as dinner, right?) (that's good considering i'll go days without eating.) and i hate hearing 'force yourself, you jsut have to force yourself' i'm near forcing my fist down someone's throat! my good friends know that 'skinny kk' is not 'mentally healthy kk'. and i don't even feel i have a right to say anythin, i'm not mary kate (or is ti ashely? i can't tell them apart anyway, they are twins... i'm in a normal bmi. i'm at 143 lbs, somewhere between 57 and 5 10, sorry, i don't ahvge a tape measure handy and now i'm confused abgout my own height. i've been realy confused lately and stressed out, can you tell? but, all these bruises are concerning. and this 'not eating si concerning. and i hate hearing comments like 'why don't you eat' or even 'it's good to see you eat' when i do, you know? sorry, should i have started a different thread? i figured maybe you were going through the same thing, as i don't have a problem eatign when i'm aroudn others either, it's jsut IN THIS HOUSE!) that's why my mother thinks i look good (and why am i getting close to my mother now? she's buying my shoes, clothes, things for the duckie.. that's certainly unhealthy. it's like she's my 'ally in complaint'. i don't like talkign to her everyday, she is the devil and one should not be this close to the devil...)
anywhooo i'll try to eat better if you do, ok? we can do it together. plus, i thought i had dirt on my face and my friend remarked 'no, it's your cheekbones' wowsa! i hate hearing 'you look good' when i know i'm unhealthy.
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 19, 2007, at 17:21:53
In reply to i use protection too! turned into rant » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by karen_kay on June 19, 2007, at 11:45:08
Hi kk,
Well, funny thing is that when I live by myself I fall into bad habits. Ignoring my stomach until it just gives up trying to get fed. Not having anything edible in the house, ergo not eating. apathy to put the fork in and chew.However, I definitely screwed with my metabolism, because 2 family events and 3 weeks of living with my husband later, I found that I am back to blubbery. Worse, actually.
Now the plan is to follow a diet. I even bought 5 weeks of nutrisystem so that I wouldn't have to think and worry and get panicky about what I WAS and WASN'T putting into my body.
It cost 300 bucks, but the food is SMALL, and I have to eat a lot of fruits and veggies (salads) on the side. This leads to more practice chewing.
I'm so sorry to hear about the bruises. Try adding vitamin C to your diet (OJ?) because that makes your lovely capillaries stronger. Don't listen to your mom, and don't focus on a number, just on the general trend. 145 sounds like you're on the cusp of boniness (no offense- just concerned about you) I know that my body protested when I kept it 145 one semester.
Me and T did a guided relaxation exercise concerning eating, and it helped me. I got this image in my head of a little girl. She was really cute, and looked vaguely tropical. I was supposed to think of nourishing this little girl, so that she could make it through her day, and have enough food to go all night without eating.
((((((((((((((Kk))))))))))))))
-Ll
Posted by karen_kay on June 20, 2007, at 15:45:48
In reply to diet stuff » karen_kay, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 19, 2007, at 17:21:53
i'll go to a different room thinking 'ok, it's quiet in here, i can eat' and i can't do it. i just don't ahve the desire to eat. and then, i get super-duper anxious about it, eating and all. i think i just think about it way too much. that's my problem. it's the 'anxieties' sneaking up on me again, with a combination of 'the topamax', making it difficult for my belly to want anythign in it, other than coffee and cigarette smoke, that is. not even the old lady drinks work any more. i've had the same six pack in there for over two weeks and i thik i still have a couple of them. i used to be certain i'd force down one per day, but i've given that up.
on the bright side, yesterday i did eat some cabbage (yummy yummy) and today, a lunchable (thank you mr kk). again, i think it's all in my head. i have this weird idea (and come to think of it, i've had ti before when i wasn't working) that if i'm not actually brigning in a apaycheck, then i don't deserve to eat (how f*cked up is that anyway?). i realize that i watch kids all day long (and i shoudl be making a zillion dollars for all the work i do aroudn this place, by god!), but some part fo me thinks that if i don't physically brign money into the house hold, then i don't deserve to eat, use shampoo (nope, if i run out, i keep my mouth shut until someone else speaks up about it, though they usually take showers at work). i feel i suck up enough resources with my chain smoking, that if someon edoesn't notice my meds are out, i won't tell (again, i learned how bad it is to stop topamax all at once with this stupid idea. i warned you, i'm warped...)
so, like i said, it's all in my head. perhaps i shoudl consider seeign another therapist? but, not my old one. she kept hasslign me about my insurance, so i'm not going back to her. i don't know the first thing about insurance, and was highly insulted tha tshe used the 'insurance' ploy to test my anxiety level (yeah, i guess that's a whole other thread for a whole other time... sorry.).
i'm glad you're doing better. at least with nutrisystem you don't have to try to remember to eat. or really even think about it either. you jsut go to fridge (freezer?), get it out, heat it up (not the salad though dear.. wilted lettuce is a no no!) and chew. you'll remember how, it's like ridign a bike. sure, you'll miss and bite yoru tongue a few times, but after a while, either it'll go numb or you'll get teh hang of it!
i'm proud of you dear. for taking care of yourself. i'm glad i had the pleasure of humping you. and the coffee was great. you know, you're the first...
kk
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 20, 2007, at 18:37:26
In reply to ignoring the belly » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by karen_kay on June 20, 2007, at 15:45:48
> i'll go to a different room thinking 'ok, it's quiet in here, i can eat' and i can't do it. i just don't ahve the desire to eat. and then, i get super-duper anxious about it, eating and all. i think i just think about it way too much. that's my problem. it's the 'anxieties' sneaking up on me again, with a combination of 'the topamax', making it difficult for my belly to want anythign in it, other than coffee and cigarette smoke, that is. not even the old lady drinks work any more. i've had the same six pack in there for over two weeks and i thik i still have a couple of them. i used to be certain i'd force down one per day, but i've given that up.
>Yeah, somedays I don't know what's worse: the symptoms themselves or my anxiety about my symptoms. What a downward spiral...
> on the bright side, yesterday i did eat some cabbage (yummy yummy) and today, a lunchable (thank you mr kk). again, i think it's all in my head. i have this weird idea (and come to think of it, i've had ti before when i wasn't working) that if i'm not actually brigning in a apaycheck, then i don't deserve to eat (how f*cked up is that anyway?). i realize that i watch kids all day long (and i shoudl be making a zillion dollars for all the work i do aroudn this place, by god!), but some part fo me thinks that if i don't physically brign money into the house hold, then i don't deserve to eat, use shampoo (nope, if i run out, i keep my mouth shut until someone else speaks up about it, though they usually take showers at work). i feel i suck up enough resources with my chain smoking, that if someon edoesn't notice my meds are out, i won't tell (again, i learned how bad it is to stop topamax all at once with this stupid idea. i warned you, i'm warped...)
kk, I think you are a great person. I'm sure that your hubby wants you to be as strong and healthy as possible. It helps you keep up the energy required with parenting and housework. You've got a little one, and no doubt he keeps you on your toes (never mind the high-heeled pumps you call your "walking shoes"). Shampoo... well, remember that all that smoke will linger in your hair. Wouldn't it be a refreshing treat to wash it all down the drain before bedtime? I'm just thinking of your pillow, that's all. I'm a big fan of your pillow. It sat on my bed, untouched for so many days, a virtual shrine of Kk's illuminous presence, and her silly bedroom antics..
> so, like i said, it's all in my head. perhaps i shoudl consider seeign another therapist? but, not my old one. she kept hasslign me about my insurance, so i'm not going back to her. i don't know the first thing about insurance, and was highly insulted tha tshe used the 'insurance' ploy to test my anxiety level (yeah, i guess that's a whole other thread for a whole other time... sorry.).I HEAR you. I'm in the middle of insurance mess right now. I used up my free sessions and didn't get a prior authorization to continue treatment. Her "reduced price" is 70$, which I may be forced to pay out of pocket if I can't get it straigtened out. 2x a week since February. :( Of course the worst part about it is that back in February I was so dysfunctional that I didn't realize the limitations of my insurance policy.
> i'm proud of you dear. for taking care of yourself. i'm glad i had the pleasure of humping you. and the coffee was great. you know, you're the first...
>
> kk(((((((((((bigbouncyhugsforKk))))))))))))))
Thanks for your pep talk. Today I'm slipping a little bit, since I had a ginourmous lunch, I won't be able to eat any of my mini-midget meals.Oh, what the hell((((((((morehugsfor kk)))))))))
and take your meds!
-Ll
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 7, 2007, at 16:37:37
In reply to diet stuff » karen_kay, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 19, 2007, at 17:21:53
This is coming from someone who uses food. Doesn't eat it, but uses it for various psychological purposes.
I bought 10 weeks of nutrisystem- prepackaged food that I supplement with 3 dairy servings, 2 fruits, 2 salads and 2 veggies.
I've been on it since... looks like June 18th or so. And my scale has been in storage, but I got it out and I'm finally losing weight. It's not always easy, and it's kind of slower than simply not eating, but I can tell that I'm losing fat, not only muscle.
I started at 171ish and now I'm at 163. FINALLY on the right side of 170. (170 is where BMI says "overweight").
My goal weight is 150, which I was able to maintain for about 5 years once upon a time...
keep your fingers crossed. send me strength to make it through those nights when I go to bed with a growling stomach
-Ll
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2007, at 0:48:09
In reply to Re: diet stuff--ITS WORKING!!!! » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 7, 2007, at 16:37:37
That's great llurpsie! Wow! You lost 8 pounds in 23 days! That's 2.4 pounds a week! Around 2 pounds/week is a healthy rate of loss.
Do you feel healthier too by eating healthier?
I'm trying to lose weight too. I can't seem to do it the healthy way though.
Deneb*
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 19, 2007, at 15:31:38
In reply to Re: diet stuff--ITS WORKING!!!! » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2007, at 0:48:09
> That's great llurpsie! Wow! You lost 8 pounds in 23 days! That's 2.4 pounds a week! Around 2 pounds/week is a healthy rate of loss.
>
> Do you feel healthier too by eating healthier?
>
> I'm trying to lose weight too. I can't seem to do it the healthy way though.
>
> Deneb*Hi Deneb*
I went off my diet on vacation and I felt less stable, so perhaps having my blood sugar under control is a good thing for my moods. I didn't gain too much weight back, but I felt pretty rotten a couple of days, moodwise and healthwise.Try making a few changes, like adding more vegetables and less oils. simple stuff. Even if you don't lose weight, you will be eating more healthfully
-Ll
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 23, 2007, at 11:07:28
In reply to Re: diet stuff--ITS WORKING!!!! » Deneb, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 19, 2007, at 15:31:38
still losing weight. don't feel great otherwise, but at least the blubber is in slow retreat.
-Ll
Posted by karen_kay on August 1, 2007, at 20:48:01
In reply to diet update, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on July 23, 2007, at 11:07:28
HOORAY!!!!
((((li)))))
is it the woodcutting that's doing it dear?
hoping every day is better and better for you doll.
kk
Posted by karen_kay on August 1, 2007, at 20:50:12
In reply to hip hip...., posted by karen_kay on August 1, 2007, at 20:48:01
your fantastic leggies....
those always deserve their own post anyway now, don't they dear?
here's to great legs (forget fabulous boobs. people write songs about legs, not boobs!!!)!
kk (again)
Posted by Phillipa on August 1, 2007, at 21:31:31
In reply to forgot to mention...., posted by karen_kay on August 1, 2007, at 20:50:12
Lurpsie are you eating less or just the meds leaving your body? Love Phillipa
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 2, 2007, at 10:20:49
In reply to Re: forgot to mention...., posted by Phillipa on August 1, 2007, at 21:31:31
I'm on the Nutrisystem diet, which is really good for me because I only have to microwave my dinners for 1 minute. Good for apathy, and the portions are small, so I won't gag and get too full and nauseous.
After about 8 weeks I've lost maybe 13 lbs. I'm back to a healthy weight. I'd like to get rid of stomach blubber and the weight I gained in grad school, so I'm going to continue for another 6 weeks and reevaluate.
the idea of having to cook again is daunting, so I am avoiding 'real food' as much as possible. Been drinking smoothies and trying to eat whatever fruit my lazy mouth can handle.
-Ll
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 2, 2007, at 10:22:34
In reply to forgot to mention...., posted by karen_kay on August 1, 2007, at 20:50:12
Thanks for your hooray kk. This is the first diet I've ever been on for more than 2 weeks and it's pretty painless.
cheers to good legs and only one tiny spider vein...
and to the retreat of deadly cellulite, to up above the "short shorts line"
-lurps
Posted by Phillipa on August 2, 2007, at 21:13:04
In reply to my diet for apathetic depressed folks » Phillipa, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 2, 2007, at 10:20:49
I hardly eat a thing and keep gaining weight. I was eating healthy choice each night and now just salad. I gave up cooking when my kids left home. I was a betty crocker Mom. Not anymore gave away cookbooks and won't cook a think. I served my time. Need some lipo and a tummytuck anyone want to donate to this cause? Love Phillipa
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 17, 2007, at 9:18:03
In reply to Re: my diet for apathetic depressed folks » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by Phillipa on August 2, 2007, at 21:13:04
I've lost 20 lbs so far, putting me back into "healthy" BMI range. I'm going to lose the remaining 13 lbs.
Don't worry, folks, for women my height there is about a 30 lb window for healthy weight. I know that with my frame etc, I will be a good build at my goal weight.
I need to keep up with my strength training. I think that's the way to go, since I can't seem to bring myself to do much in the way of aerobics...
I think I detect a hint of bicep?
cheerio,
-Ll
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