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Posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 1:34:32
So now I've put down two addictions and picked up two more at in all time high intensity! Smoking cigarettes and eating too much. How can I end this cycle once and for all? Part of me right now says to heck with it, that I don't care, but I do and I'm stuffing my feelings even though I'm feeling my feelings. I read this evening that the good thing about being clean and sober is you 'feel your emotions', the bad things is you 'feel your emotions'. ARgghh This really sucks big green grapes. *said in all humor* I cannot do the "diets" any longer and it seems when I obsess about this at the highest point I just gain more weight, when I was focusing less on it all, I lost.
What gives?
Posted by Racer on September 24, 2005, at 2:12:16
In reply to Emotional Eating BIG TIME! :(, posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 1:34:32
Dunno what gives, but you might check out a book called "Intuitive Eating" and see if it helps you out of this. Both my nutritionist and my therapist recommended this to me, and I can see how helpful it would be for any sort of eating or dieting issues. One of the first sections is about identifying what sort of eater you are, which helps you figure out how to work on normalizing your eating.
The whole point of the book is that dieting doesn't work, but eating according to what your body is telling you will help you achieve your "natural" weight. It may not be the weight you want to be, but it will be the healthiest weight for your body. (Keeping in mind that some of us think we should weigh much less than a healthy amount, that's an important point to keep in mind.)
Congrats on being clean, though. I agree about the good/bad to feeling feelings. I certainly prefer to be thin and brittle to being whatever size I am now and actually being aware of feelings. (Still can't identify them, of course, but that's why I visit my therapist every week...)
I hope that helps a bit. Good luck to you.
Posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 2:29:55
In reply to Re: Emotional Eating BIG TIME! :( » ButterflyHigh, posted by Racer on September 24, 2005, at 2:12:16
Hey thanks so much, I am going to check that book out tomorrow :) My therapist specializes in eating disorders, but hasn't recommended this book to me thus far. It sounds great.
I really really need to want this. I have gone from 125 to 150 to 200 to 248 to 212 to 198 :( I'm too fat!!!
And the sad part is, is that I need to care. I want to care, but for some reason I do not think I'm 'good enough'
That's a messed up thinking pattern if I ever felt one. Some days i just want to go back to bulumia!
Posted by Racer on September 24, 2005, at 12:58:40
In reply to Re: Emotional Eating BIG TIME! :( » Racer, posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 2:29:55
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> And the sad part is, is that I need to care. I want to care, but for some reason I do not think I'm 'good enough'
> That's a messed up thinking pattern if I ever felt one. Some days i just want to go back to bulumia!
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>Even though I know, intellectually, that I am not "fat" and all that, I still have this kind of "fat mentality." There's a big part of me that feels as though, now that I've gained so much weight, I'm not as competant, not as capable, as I was at my lower weight. Even though I know that being anorexic is not the same as being successful, it's still there in me somewhere that being heavier means not being as good.
It feeds into a sort of endless loop with the depression, and sometimes I feel as though I'm punishing myself by eating. So, I start restricting again, and can't restrict enough to get my weight back down, so I feel like more of a failure, and then get more depressed, so I do less, so I feel like more of a failure, so I get more depressed, etc.
It sure would be easier not to get treatment, huh?
And yet, I'm the first to say that the skinny celebrities are not as attractive as real women, with real curves. I'm the one who used to lecture the teenage girls at work about NOT starving themselves, about trying to be STRONG, rather than thin. Who am I? I don't know, I guess it's true for everyone except me...
Posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 20:51:39
In reply to You sound kinda like me... » ButterflyHigh, posted by Racer on September 24, 2005, at 12:58:40
Hear ya. My body image is so warped it sucks. lol
I can relate all to well to what you said re: competency, it seems once my mind is off of my weight high or low, I jam and am so much more productive! It does feed into an endless, hopeless loop. I eat to punish myself, the opposite of your behavior? hmm interesting concept.
Re: treatment, if it gets out of hand, I do believe treatment can help, but look at so many people who have had anorexia, and just are down right resistant to treatment - it's sad.You're not alone here on this issue, keep smiling. You'd be amazed at just how much more similarities there are than differences ;)
Take care of you.
Posted by DiamondDoggie on November 28, 2005, at 0:58:46
In reply to Re: You sound kinda like me... » Racer, posted by ButterflyHigh on September 24, 2005, at 20:51:39
Warped body image.............. How large of a percentage of women would you say have a warped body image? 90 percent? Try checking out a website called Normal Eating, it may help with trying to get yourself on track with emotional eating. The only thing that food can satisfy is hunger, it can't solve any of your other problems. ACK!! How difficult! Keep fighting the good fight, everyone!
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