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Posted by morgan miller on July 20, 2010, at 0:42:33
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Hombre on July 19, 2010, at 18:21:52
> Maybe your brother and dad can go to the gym with you, show you the ropes, and you can do some male bonding. In my experience, people at gyms are pretty good at leaving other people alone, not staring, etc. But I understand that sometimes it does not feel right to leave the house. I really do. I hope that when you are ready, herbs or other measures will help with this. Take your time. We'll be rooting for you no matter what.
I agree that getting used to going to the gym could be a really good thing for you. It's kinda nice there, you can people watch and no one bothers you. You may get an occasional friendly person that says hi or starts talking to you, but it's kinda nice when that happens. I too hope you reach a point where you feel comfortable getting out and doing things like going to the gym.
Morgan
Posted by Hombre on July 20, 2010, at 4:48:35
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by morgan miller on July 20, 2010, at 0:42:33
Since you both mentioned weakness in the legs, I just wanted to mention that in TCM terms weak kidneys, which is associated with deep fatigue, will also manifest as weakness, soreness, and tightness of the lower back and legs, esp the knees. I've experienced this.
In qigong/internal martial arts training, one is advised to avoid excessive sexual activity, specifically ejaculating too often. This is not moralizing, but it is one of the possible factors leading to weak kidneys. Excessive depends on your inborn constitution and current state of health. If you're energy is strong and your organs are healthy, you won't notice it. If your energy is weak, however, you'll feel an overall hit to your energy as well as the above mentioned symptoms until you've replenished your Essence.
If you can learn to control your emissions, sex can become a way to strengthen your energy, but you better have your technique down. As you get healthier, you and your partner will enjoy sex even more.
Posted by Hombre on July 20, 2010, at 21:03:48
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Hombre on July 20, 2010, at 4:48:35
In my previous post, I am not in any way making assumptions about anyone's lifestyle. Just sharing info.
Posted by morgan miller on July 22, 2010, at 9:46:04
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Hombre on July 20, 2010, at 21:03:48
> In my previous post, I am not in any way making assumptions about anyone's lifestyle. Just sharing info.
I didn't take it that way at all. Thanks so much for the suggestions and info.
I can't go too long without masturbation. I used to all the time and had sex all the time and felt great. Maybe it is affecting me differently nowadays, who knows.
Posted by Lao Tzu on July 26, 2010, at 11:40:38
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by morgan miller on July 22, 2010, at 9:46:04
Hey, Morgan!! How are you doing today? I'm okay today. Just waiting for my herbs to arrive. Don't know if I really need them, though?? I stopped taking the holy basil because I felt that I didn't need it, and to be honest, it really wasn't helping me that much. It seems my problem is much bigger than any one herb can help with, which is why the TCM may be of benefit. I do rather well with ginger because for some odd reason it affects my mood positively. I read somewhere that it effects 5ht3 serotonin receptors, and this may or may not have and AD like effect. I only take 250mg per day, but I like it for some reason. I also read that ginger may act like an anti-anxiety herb because of its regulation of thromboxane levels. Don't know if this is just complete B.S. or not? The site was trying to sell herbs, so draw your own conclusions. Probably B.S. Anyway, I'm focusing more on antioxidants, the three best seem to be Vitamins E and C and selenium. Zinc, B6, and manganese are also important for me because I believe I am pyroluric.
I had a very strange dream last night that was like a safari adventure. It was very vivid. A group of us were canoeing on a river and the boat was literally racing over top a bunch of sea lions just resting in the river. At one point in the trip, our boat flew through the air and then we fell down into a huge lake full of alligators. Eventually, we made our way back up the cliff to the forest, and from there went on foot. We had a choice. Either go through a snake infested route or walk through a narrow corridor high over the lake. We took the narrow corridor, and it seemed like something out of Mario Brothers, jumping from rock to rock, teetering on the edge with the huge river far down below. If we fell, we'd be back with the alligators. It was an amusing dream, and I don't know what brought it on. I had taken some tylenol earlier on for a headache. Maybe it was that. I don't know for sure. Anyway, hope you had a nice weekend. I'm home alone today because my family went to a funeral. It's very quiet here, and I rather prefer peace and quiet. I like to sit outside on the porch and listen to music. I just bought a new Apple iPod and it's amazing how much music you can store on it. I'm really enjoying it. Anyhow, how's your fatigue today? Is the fatigue a constant struggle for you? Does it happen everyday, or just on certain days? Some people drink energy drinks if they're having a bad day. Did you ever try energy drinks? I've tried them in the past, and they do tend to give me a little more energy, but I don't make a habit of it. Just if I'm having a particularly bad day. Have you seen the doctor for your tests yet? Have you started the accupuncture yet? Would like to know if it helps you. I'm curious about accupuncture. Stay well!!Lao
Posted by morgan miller on July 28, 2010, at 17:18:35
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Lao Tzu on July 26, 2010, at 11:40:38
> Hey, Morgan!! How are you doing today? I'm okay today. Just waiting for my herbs to arrive. Don't know if I really need them, though?? I stopped taking the holy basil because I felt that I didn't need it, and to be honest, it really wasn't helping me that much. It seems my problem is much bigger than any one herb can help with, which is why the TCM may be of benefit. I do rather well with ginger because for some odd reason it affects my mood positively. I read somewhere that it effects 5ht3 serotonin receptors, and this may or may not have and AD like effect. I only take 250mg per day, but I like it for some reason. I also read that ginger may act like an anti-anxiety herb because of its regulation of thromboxane levels. Don't know if this is just complete B.S. or not? The site was trying to sell herbs, so draw your own conclusions. Probably B.S. Anyway, I'm focusing more on antioxidants, the three best seem to be Vitamins E and C and selenium. Zinc, B6, and manganese are also important for me because I believe I am pyroluric.
> I had a very strange dream last night that was like a safari adventure. It was very vivid. A group of us were canoeing on a river and the boat was literally racing over top a bunch of sea lions just resting in the river. At one point in the trip, our boat flew through the air and then we fell down into a huge lake full of alligators. Eventually, we made our way back up the cliff to the forest, and from there went on foot. We had a choice. Either go through a snake infested route or walk through a narrow corridor high over the lake. We took the narrow corridor, and it seemed like something out of Mario Brothers, jumping from rock to rock, teetering on the edge with the huge river far down below. If we fell, we'd be back with the alligators. It was an amusing dream, and I don't know what brought it on. I had taken some tylenol earlier on for a headache. Maybe it was that. I don't know for sure. Anyway, hope you had a nice weekend. I'm home alone today because my family went to a funeral. It's very quiet here, and I rather prefer peace and quiet. I like to sit outside on the porch and listen to music. I just bought a new Apple iPod and it's amazing how much music you can store on it. I'm really enjoying it. Anyhow, how's your fatigue today? Is the fatigue a constant struggle for you? Does it happen everyday, or just on certain days? Some people drink energy drinks if they're having a bad day. Did you ever try energy drinks? I've tried them in the past, and they do tend to give me a little more energy, but I don't make a habit of it. Just if I'm having a particularly bad day. Have you seen the doctor for your tests yet? Have you started the accupuncture yet? Would like to know if it helps you. I'm curious about accupuncture. Stay well!!
>
> LaoHey Lao! Nice dream, I love dreams like that. Your lucky you can experience such dreams and remember them.
I am still struggling from fatigue to some degree everyday. I think the muscle stiffness/weakness combined with the mind numbing anxiety is what is just killing me. I haven't started acupuncture yet but I look forward to doing so. I will definitely report back here after doing it a few times. I'm really more interested in physical healing benefits than I am in mental health benefits.
I here you on the Holy Basil. I think it does something beneficial but over time the effect seems to fade and it may not be worth spending the money on continual supplementation. I don't take holy basil everyday anymore. I'm going to take it periodically on an as needed basis. I just spoke to someone that said if you are taking Holy Basil for adrenal fatigue, you only have to take it daily for a while and you should be able to still benefit from it's positive effects on adrenals after stopping. Who knows.
I'm curious to see how your trial with TCM goes. I look forward to hearing you report back with a positive response.
>It seems my problem is much bigger than any one herb can help with.
I think this is the case with most of us. Though there was a day when I just took 100 mg Zoloft and 3 to 4 grams of fish oil everyday and I felt pretty damn good.
>Did you ever try energy drinks?
Energy drinks used to overstimulate me and destabilize me, now they just make me feel gross and don't seem to energize me much. Ugh, my hurting brain!!
>I do rather well with ginger because for some odd reason it affects my mood positively.
I love ginger! I make ginger tea from fresh organic ginger nearly everday. Did you know ginger boosts testosterone?
Did I tell you about my recent addition of micronized DHEA to my regimen? So far so good. Just upped my dosage from 5 mg to 25 mg today after finding out that some SSRIs and lithium can reduce levels of DHEA. If I notice anything spectacular with DHEA I will report back. Have you ever thought of taking pregnenolone? I have read that it can help with negative symptoms and cognitive issues in schizophrenic, schizoaffective, and bipolar patients. It has also been shown to promote neurogenesis. I may try it after a few months of DHEA supplementation. I'm a little worried that pregnenolone may be too stimulating and possibly agitate me. I guess I will never know until I try!
Good luck with the TCM! Be well brotha!
Morgan
Posted by Lao Tzu on July 29, 2010, at 8:44:36
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by morgan miller on July 28, 2010, at 17:18:35
I tried pregnenolone a few years ago. It gave me energy, yes, but overall, I didn't like it. I did feel a little agitated while taking it. I have tried DHEA as well, and I was disappointed. I actually felt worse on it, but perhaps, I was taking the wrong kind. I didn't take the micronized form. I tried taking some GABA yesterday, and I think I just wasted $10 for nothing. I call it a stupid supplement. It doesn't even cross the blood brain barrier, and if indeed there are problems with GABA/Glutamate neurotransmission, just dumping a lot of GABA into your system won't do sh*t. There is a theory that bipolars and schizophrenics may have problems with GABA neurotransmission, but so far from what I could dig up on the web, it's just a theory in progress. I don't think we've gotten that far to say a drug that works on GABA will definitely help schizophrenics, although I am hopeful about the new glutamate drugs coming out in a few years. I wish, and so I hope my wish will be granted someday. I have also tried glutamine supplements, and the only time glutamine ever worked for me was when I was taking Ativan. The two worked great together, so there is something to the GABA/Glutamate theory, it's just not proven as of yet.
Have you ever tried yoga for your physical maladies? It may do wonders for you, but I don't know for sure.
The only things that are working for me in the way of supplements are the vitamins and minerals, along with some ginger each day. I don't do well on aminos at all. I have to tell you I've tried so many different supplements over the years, and found no relief. I've wasted a lot of money on junk! It's only in the past couple of years that I have found relief in vitamins and minerals along with my meds. I'm thinking that the TCM will be very helpful for me. I just received the herbs in the mail the other day, but I haven't taken them yet. I'm going to see if I'm all right with my current regimen before I take them. If I need a little more boost, then I'll try it. In the winter, I was taking alpha lipoic acid for oxidative stress. Overall, it helped a little with motivation and energy, but I don't seem to tolerate it that well. I have been taking 200mcg of folate every other day, and it seems to help with depression somewhat, but the strange thing is that a few years ago, I couldn't tolerate any folate at all. It caused mood swings and depression. Now I can tolerate a little. It seems to help somewhat with libido by increasing histamine levels. People with high histamine levels tend to have strong libidos. In the winter when I take B12 everyday, I also seem to have a stronger libido, and sex isn't a problem at all. I think one of the best things I've done this year was to balance my magnesium and calcium levels. I sleep better at night, whereas only a year ago, I had trouble falling asleep at night and it bothered me. Magnesium is good for so many things in your body, teeth, bones, heart, mind, etc. You have to watch the Calcium, however. I stay with 500mg at bedtime. It helps me sleep. Too much, and I don't feel right. There might be something going on with calcium metabolism in bipolars, so it's wise not to take too much.
I really think I need to get out there and start doing some form of exercise because it seems to be great for depression, especially in bipolars. And I have to stop smoking eventually. I think the smoking is adding to my depression to a great degree. Without the cigarettes, I think I would feel really good. Damn those things! I should have never started. I started at a vulnerable time in my life when the bipolar was getting worse. I socialized a lot, and I guess I thought it would be no big deal to try and fit in. It was the stupidest thing I ever did in my life. When I spent nine days in the hospital, I quit smoking, and when I got out, I felt on top of the world. I was liberated, so to speak. But then I did something stupid. After I got out, I stopped taking my Buspar and started taking Provigil again. Well, the Provigil was too stimulating for me and I went back to smoking again. If I had just stuck with the Buspar and didn't take the Provigil, I probably would have quit for good, but who knows for sure? At that time, I was really manic, and I probably would have started up again no matter what drugs I was taking. I try not to feel guilty about it, but it was very stupid of me. Currently, some company is working on a smoking cessation drug that affects GABA neurotransmission because GABA is involved in the self-administering of nicotine in some way. Good things are on their way. I just have to be patient.
Well, wish you well today. Have a good one!!Lao
Posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 23:50:00
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Lao Tzu on July 29, 2010, at 8:44:36
>I have been taking 200mcg of folate every other day, and it seems to help with depression somewhat, but the strange thing is that a few years ago, I couldn't tolerate any folate at all. It caused mood swings and depression. Now I can tolerate a little. It seems to help somewhat with libido by increasing histamine levels. People with high histamine levels tend to have strong libidos.
You need the folate now because Lamictal depletes folate! You are taking Lamictal aren't you? I think L Methyl Folate is one of the best forms. Folinic acid is another good form. I believe Source Naturals makes a product called MegaFolinic with folinic acid.
>I tried taking some GABA yesterday, and I think I just wasted $10 for nothing.
I've taken GABA for sleep and relaxation and I swear it helped me both relax and sleep. I know it's not supposed to be able to cross the BBB but I think it still works because there are GABA receptors throughout your body and it's effects somehow reach your brain. Have you ever heard of Picamillon?
Do you have issues with sleep? My friend who has schizo-affective has horrible insomnia half of the time.
>I sleep better at night, whereas only a year ago, I had trouble falling asleep at night and it bothered me.
Dah um, I totally missed that somehow.
>I really think I need to get out there and start doing some form of exercise because it seems to be great for depression, especially in bipolars.
Yes! Too bad you don't enjoy going to the gym. Still, you can take up road biking or running. I would recommend more intense brief periods of exercise if you are running. Long distance running at a jogger's pace really isn't very good for one's health in the long run. Have you ever seen P90X? It's a great way to get in great shape. High intensity interval training is really good for your heart, lungs, and brain. I prefer getting on the elliptical or stationery bike and just going hard and fast for about 20 minutes straight. I focus on my breathing, taking air through my mouth and then through my nose. When I used to get in a zone running hard on the treadmill I remember getting to a point where I was just breathing out of my nose. The breathing was effortless even though I was running pretty fast. I was also completely relaxed would actually find myself closing my eyes at times, as if I were meditating. I actually think that cardiovascular exercise is most beneficial to the brain when you can reach that "zone" and relax and get into that meditative effortless breathing. I think it is important to breath through the nose at least half of the time as you are putting oxygen directly into your brain.
>And I have to stop smoking eventually.
Have you tried nicotine gum or the patch? Maybe exercising more will help you cut down and eventually quit.
I look forward to newer better treatments with less side effects coming out. I will always miss the days when I just took Zoloft and fish oil and worked out and felt great. Ugh, my hurting brain and body!
Have a great weekend! Peace out brotha!
Morgan
Posted by Lao Tzu on July 30, 2010, at 14:54:12
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 23:50:00
Morgan, thanks for the info on Lamictal depleting folate. I had no idea this was the case. It may explain why I can tolerate it at a very low dosage. And yes, I have tried Picamillon in the past, but didn't think it helped me in any way. I'm actually going to try taking the GABA (750mg) at bedtime to see if my sleep is much improved. It worked okay last night. Thanks for the exercise tips. I wish I could feel at ease and just go to the gym. I did it in the past, and I had some fun going, but ever since my psychotic episode in 2005, I have a slight tinge of paranoia of people. It isn't rational, I realize that now, but I am suspicious of people and I have this weird idea that people secretly don't want me to succeed at anything. Isn't that the weirdest thing? I know it isn't true, and I have to remind myself of how worthy I am of living the life that is mine. In the last year or so, my positivity has increased and I try not to entertain the silly notions mentioned above. My doctor says you have to get past it, and I realize I can in time.
Been feeling all right today. I decided to omit the riboflavin and manganese from my regimen because I seem to feel better without them. Didn't take the Holy Basil today or the Chinese herbals. Maybe I don't need them after all. Since I added selenium to my regimen, my depression has been much better.
Thanks again, Morgan, for the info on Lamictal and folate. I take 200mg of Lamictal everyday for the past 4 years, and I guess over time it depleted my folate levels. Good to know that I can take it if I really need it, but I don't think it is absolutely essential for me most of the time.
Stay well and enjoy your weekend!Lao
Posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 17:33:12
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Lao Tzu on July 30, 2010, at 14:54:12
>In the last year or so, my positivity has increased and I try not to entertain the silly notions mentioned above. My doctor says you have to get past it, and I realize I can in time.
You are obviously very intelligent and self aware, I believe you can get past those thoughts and condition yourself to the point where the thoughts are not a factor anymore. Do you think some intense CBT would help?
>Didn't take the Holy Basil today or the Chinese herbals. Maybe I don't need them after all.
I would try the Chinese herbals for a bit, there is always room for improvement. Maybe just keep Holy Basil on hand for bad days or bad weeks. It seems to work immediately and fast so it still may be helpful at times. That great that selenium is helping!
You have a great weekend to! Be well brotha.
Morgan
Posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 18:36:37
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan, posted by Lao Tzu on July 30, 2010, at 14:54:12
Lao, it should say on the information pamphlet for your prescription of Lamictal that it may deplete folate and supplementation may be necessary. I would take a good folate supplement at least a few times a week if I were you. There are other vitamins/minerals that Lamictal may deplete. I would have to research this to find out what they are. Maybe you can do some research on this.
I took lamictal but did not like it. I'm actually afraid that I may be damaged in some way after taking it for 8 months. Who knows.
Posted by Lao Tzu on July 31, 2010, at 14:39:54
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!))) Morgan » Lao Tzu, posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 18:36:37
Thanks for the info, Morgan. I will look into it.
Lao
Posted by former poster on September 1, 2010, at 22:33:14
In reply to Holy Basil Rocks!, posted by morganator on June 22, 2010, at 15:05:07
I would like to ask what kind of dosage is safe? I'm taking the "New Chapter" brand also at the recommended 2 liquid gels a day. I notice a definite reduction in feelings of rage. Not much energy improvement. This stuff seems like a very potent tranquilizer without the drugged up blunted feeling.
Posted by morgan miller on September 1, 2010, at 23:56:07
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » morganator, posted by former poster on September 1, 2010, at 22:33:14
> I would like to ask what kind of dosage is safe? I'm taking the "New Chapter" brand also at the recommended 2 liquid gels a day. I notice a definite reduction in feelings of rage. Not much energy improvement. This stuff seems like a very potent tranquilizer without the drugged up blunted feeling.
Hey that's great it is benefiting you in some way. What a powerful herb huh? Yeah some people notice an improvement in energy due to adrenal support after a few weeks or a month. You may or may not. The important thing is that it will hopefully help with mood.
When I use it I typically do one in the morning and one in the afternoon. In the past I have used two in the morning and two in the afternoon, and may still do so if I feel it is necessary. I think you just need to listen to your brain/body. Some say they just take it once in the morning and the effect lasts all day.
How long have you been taking holy basil? Do you notice anything else besides the reduction in feelings of rage?
Morgan
Posted by former poster on September 2, 2010, at 18:35:41
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!, posted by morgan miller on September 1, 2010, at 23:56:07
I've only been taking it about a month. I notice a insightful feeling of emotional stability, calm, passiveness. But sadly, without euphoria. Seems to help my concentration. My hands feel steadier. No increase in energy. No sleep improvement. No impairment except maybe in social situations I feel more introverted. Could it be used as an anti-manic? I am often a bit wired from the stimulants I'm prescribed and this stuff seems to really take care of that.
Do the effects increase with dosage?
While in Thailand my friend cooked a dinner and one of the ingredients was some greens that were supposed to have a calming effect. I wonder if it was Holy Basil since I heard it is used there. I remember feeling this way a lot while in Thailand.Thanks to all who posted the info on on Holy Basil.
Posted by morgan miller on September 3, 2010, at 0:25:52
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » morgan miller, posted by former poster on September 2, 2010, at 18:35:41
I bet there was holy basil in the food you ate over there.
What stimulants are you taking if you don't mind my asking?
Do you take fish oil?
It might not be a bad idea to try upping the dose of holy basil just to see what happens. I have a feeling you might not like the feeling of taking a higher dose but I could be completely wrong. It's definitely worth a shot.
I do think holy basil has some tranquilizing effect on mania. I really wish these herbs were studied more to find out possible mechanisms. I'm not sure what the mechanism of action of holy basil in the brain is believed to be.
Are you able to get a high from exercise? I'm trying to think of ways to get your brain to experience more euphoric and positively stimulated states. Those of us with bipolar never want to get too high for too long though.
Morgan
Posted by Hombre on September 3, 2010, at 2:00:30
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » morgan miller, posted by former poster on September 2, 2010, at 18:35:41
I really want to try holy basil leaves. I'll see if I can find seeds and grow it. Or I might try to order from this place:
http://organicindiausa.com/_catalog_5839/Bulk
Their international shipping is reasonable, but it takes away from the great price on buying in bulk.
Posted by morgan miller on September 3, 2010, at 10:42:28
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!, posted by Hombre on September 3, 2010, at 2:00:30
That looks like it might be really good tea. Thanks for that Hombre. I think you'll like Holy Basil.
Posted by former poster on September 8, 2010, at 12:45:39
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » former poster, posted by morgan miller on September 3, 2010, at 0:25:52
Sorry for slow reply. Thanks for taking the time to post. I have been on Vyvanse for 2yrs I changed over to generic adderall a month ago. Its very rare that I get a "high" from exersise like I used to in my 20's 30's 40's I'm now in my early 50's. Seems like I have to spend all day working out in order to get a modicum of high. I'm going to see a Endocrinoligist for the first time. I have to go now for the appointment. Let you know how it goes.
Posted by morgan miller on September 8, 2010, at 19:26:16
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » morgan miller, posted by former poster on September 8, 2010, at 12:45:39
Good luck at the endo. Are you male? Are you considering testosterone replacement? Did you mention something about this before and I'm totally forgetting it?
I know testosterone replacement, do properly with all the other hormones kept in check, can have a profound impact on a man's health and well being. It may even have a major antidepressant effect.
Morgan
Posted by former poster on September 10, 2010, at 1:41:31
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » former poster, posted by morgan miller on September 8, 2010, at 19:26:16
Yeah I believe it can and does have a major anti depressant effect too. But, the Endocrinologist says not so. That it has only a little effect and most of it is placebo effect. This Dr. is extremely thorough and sharp. This Dr. Listens to me. Talks to me, doesn't talk down to me. But he is wrong. I'm sure the Androgel was having a major positive impact on me. My wife will agree. Where is this endocrinololgist getting his info from? He told me to stop the Androgel completely. I'm feeling really, REALLY bad. Cant get the motivation to even drive my car. My wife drives me everywhere while I sleep. I'm on 50mg of Adderall a day and I can hardly get off of the couch. Suicidal thoughts are back.
Posted by morgan miller on September 10, 2010, at 3:11:08
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » morgan miller, posted by former poster on September 10, 2010, at 1:41:31
Dude, you gotta see another doc. I agree that regardless of how sharp this endo is, they are dead wrong. WTF, I mean, you would think they would want to do for you what makes you feel better. You are their boss, their employer. God I hate doctors! I say try to find another doc, maybe one that specializes or has more of an interest in anti-aging.
In the meantime, you could try D-Aspartic-Acid. Go to mindandmuscle.net and read the thread about it over there in the supplements forum. You may also want to try a high dose of Cordyceps, it can give you an energy and stamina boost, while also slightly elevating testosterone levels.
Good luck and keep me posted!
Morgan
Posted by Chris O on September 30, 2010, at 12:32:43
In reply to Holy Basil Rocks!, posted by morganator on June 22, 2010, at 15:05:07
It's interesting that holy basil affects you that way, in a calming way. For me, it has the exact opposite effect. I have a huge anxiety disorder, and holy basil totally energizes it, gives the anxiety energy. The last time I took it, I spent the whole day on the verge of a panic attack.
Posted by former poster on October 2, 2010, at 9:35:35
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks!, posted by Chris O on September 30, 2010, at 12:32:43
The holy basil felt like lithium orotate. Really spaced out. I started having some sleep problems however. So I stoppped holy basil and that caused a major rebound in depression. Back on it again now.
Posted by morgan miller on October 3, 2010, at 0:56:11
In reply to Re: Holy Basil Rocks! » Chris O, posted by former poster on October 2, 2010, at 9:35:35
> The holy basil felt like lithium orotate. Really spaced out. I started having some sleep problems however. So I stoppped holy basil and that caused a major rebound in depression. Back on it again now.
Are you taking one or two? If you are taking 2, try just taking one. I'm sure you've already done this.
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