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Posted by psychobot5000 on January 24, 2007, at 0:41:48
A few are:
Fish oil--EPA
there are two active components in fish oil, that can be mixed in different ratios: the oils EPA and DHA. A good dose seems to be EPA 1gram per day, with a relatively low amound of DHA.
Rhodiola rosea
is an herb that can help some people--it seems to be pretty powerful, and have stimulant properties (without stim toxiticy, apparently), but the research is apparently all in Russian or German.
siberian ginseng: herbal stimulant, largely physical
Gingko biloba: little evidence to support its use for ADD, but some people seem to find it useful.
Many other herbs and natural remedies are suggested in these archives.
Psychbot
Posted by laima on January 24, 2007, at 9:01:31
In reply to Alternatives to adderall, posted by psychobot5000 on January 24, 2007, at 0:41:48
Phenylalanine acts like a stimulant and mood booster, even on its own.
Posted by DG77 on January 24, 2007, at 12:49:40
In reply to Re: Alternatives to adderall, posted by laima on January 24, 2007, at 9:01:31
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> Phenylalanine acts like a stimulant and mood booster, even on its own.DLPA makes me irritable. Not to say it will have that effect on everyone, of course. I just seem to be one of those likely to be affected that way by substances that increase norepinephrine.
Posted by laima on January 24, 2007, at 19:20:21
In reply to Re: Alternatives to adderall » laima, posted by DG77 on January 24, 2007, at 12:49:40
I've only tried l-phenylalanine to date. Haven't tried DLPA yet, though I may, as people have reported some good luck combining it with Emsam. I'm curious how similar/dissimilar they are.> >
> > Phenylalanine acts like a stimulant and mood booster, even on its own.
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> DLPA makes me irritable. Not to say it will have that effect on everyone, of course. I just seem to be one of those likely to be affected that way by substances that increase norepinephrine.
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Posted by indepth horizen on January 28, 2007, at 20:30:17
In reply to Re: Alternatives to adderall » DG77, posted by laima on January 24, 2007, at 19:20:21
L-tyrosine and Caffeine combied together will simulate a similar not exact amphetamine affect.
Usally the dose is 1500mg of L-tyrosine and 200mg of Caffine.
I've tried many things over years, this is one that has worked the best.
Posted by laima on January 31, 2007, at 5:43:58
In reply to Alternatives to adderall, posted by psychobot5000 on January 24, 2007, at 0:41:48
From New York Times:January 30, 2007
Vital Signs
Mental Abilities: Folic Acid May Improve Thinking SkillsBy NICHOLAS BAKALAR
Folic acid dietary supplements significantly improve thinking skills that tend to decline with normal aging, a Dutch study has found.Researchers randomly assigned 818 men and women ages 50 to 70 to take a daily oral dose of 800 micrograms of folic acid or a placebo. All the subjects, who were otherwise healthy, had elevated blood levels of homocysteine, which has in previous studies been associated with poor cognitive performance.
All the subjects took five tests of mental functioning. At the beginning of the study, there was no significant difference in the scores between the groups. But at the end, after controlling for cholesterol, blood pressure, body mass, smoking status and other variables, the folic acid group performed significantly better on three of the five mental tests, and their average for all tests was significantly higher.
Although the lead author, Jane Durga, affirmed that the study was carefully randomized and controlled, she said, “Based on this paper alone, I wouldn’t be waving it around” to urge people to supplement their diets.
“Although this is a high-quality study,” she continued, “it needs to be repeated in other populations like in the U.S., where there is already folic acid fortification.”
By law, flour in the United States is fortified with folic acid to help prevent neural tube defects in newborns.
“This is only the first study that shows this effect,” Dr. Durga said. “There need to be studies that look at lower doses or increasing natural folates, which may lead to similar or even greater effects.”
At the time of the study, published on Jan. 20 in The Lancet, Dr. Durga was a nutritional epidemiologist at Wageningen University in the Netherlands.
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