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Posted by #2447; #2460; #2503; #2472; #2509; #2463; on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:25
In reply to Childhood adversity, serotonin, and hippocampus, posted by SLS on September 27, 2014, at 12:37:44
The text in that message is the property of http://bipolarnews.org/?p=2779
Stealing copyrighted material is unethical. You probably make some lame excuse for yourself, like claiming it is fair use. It is not. You did not even attribute the original source. Plagiarism is wrong even if excerpts from some other publication are fairly used. You did not post excerpts - you stole the entire article, just because nobody was there to stop you.
You could easily summarize the content in your own words and post a link, but you chose not to. Instead, you cut and pasted the entire post.
Why would a person do that? Are you addicted to this forum? Are you unable to stop posting, and continue posting even though it interferes with your other life activities? Do you do illegal or unethical things to maintain your habit? Do take other people's property without permission to maintain your habit?
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Posted by SLS on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:26
In reply to I accuse you of copyright violation » SLS, posted by +#2447;+#2460;+#2503;+#2472;+#2509;+#2463; on September 28, 2014, at 0:24:12
> The text in that message is the property of http://bipolarnews.org/?p=2779
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> Stealing copyrighted material is unethical. You probably make some lame excuse for yourself, like claiming it is fair use. It is not. You did not even attribute the original source. Plagiarism is wrong even if excerpts from some other publication are fairly used. You did not post excerpts - you stole the entire article, just because nobody was there to stop you.
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> You could easily summarize the content in your own words and post a link, but you chose not to. Instead, you cut and pasted the entire post.
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> Why would a person do that? Are you addicted to this forum? Are you unable to stop posting, and continue posting even though it interferes with your other life activities? Do you do illegal or unethical things to maintain your habit? Do take other people's property without permission to maintain your habit?I appreciate your concerns.
Thank you for your input.
- Scott
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:26
In reply to I accuse you of copyright violation » SLS, posted by +#2447;+#2460;+#2503;+#2472;+#2509;+#2463; on September 28, 2014, at 0:24:12
> I accuse you of copyright violation
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
Please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you. I don't want anything bad to happen to you. In a crisis, please get help in person. You may wish to check out a listing compiled by a poster of helpful web pages on coping with crisis at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psycho-babble-tips/links/Coping_with_crisis_001012507973
Sharing something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Phillipa on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:26
In reply to Re: I accuse you of copyright violation » +#2447;+#2460;+#2503;+#2472;+#2509;+#2463;, posted by SLS on September 28, 2014, at 8:01:00
Scott I'm sorry. I know myself that sources I copy & paste from list "share" or e-mail to another". I would think this was the same. When I read this it seemed very familiar like the same or close to what came in my newsletter. Again I am sorry when you shared something that could have been helpful to many posters reading the article. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:27
In reply to Re: I accuse you of copyright violation » SLS, posted by Phillipa on September 28, 2014, at 9:39:04
> Scott I'm sorry. I know myself that sources I copy & paste from list "share" or e-mail to another". I would think this was the same. When I read this it seemed very familiar like the same or close to what came in my newsletter. Again I am sorry when you shared something that could have been helpful to many posters reading the article. Phillipa
I always place a dashed-line at the end of my comments to separate them from the text that I am pasting. By now, I thought that people here would recognize this. I could be wrong. In any event, I usually place a URL link along with the text I copy from. I neglected to do that here.
I hope that Dr. Post will forgive me.
- Scott
Posted by ugynok99 on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:27
In reply to Re: I accuse you of copyright violation » Phillipa, posted by SLS on September 28, 2014, at 10:33:49
> > Scott I'm sorry. I know myself that sources I copy & paste from list "share" or e-mail to another". I would think this was the same. When I read this it seemed very familiar like the same or close to what came in my newsletter. Again I am sorry when you shared something that could have been helpful to many posters reading the article. Phillipa
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> I always place a dashed-line at the end of my comments to separate them from the text that I am pasting. By now, I thought that people here would recognize this. I could be wrong. In any event, I usually place a URL link along with the text I copy from. I neglected to do that here.
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> I hope that Dr. Post will forgive me.
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> - ScottBesides the fact that Internet piracy is just wrong, ugly, immature, petty and selfish, references to sources are important in intellectual discourse because readers need to consider the source. In this case the editor in chief of the source from which this article was pirated -- Robert M. Post, M.D. -- has been paid by Abbott, AstraZeneca, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Glaxo-SmithKline, Jansen, and Pfizer. That information is disclosed in his publication, as it should be, but was not disclosed here because pirates often do not care about such ethical nuances.
By the way, what do you care about? Why is it so important to pirate this material without going through the intellectual exercise of assimilating, paraphrasing, citing and linking to the source? Laziness? Self-importance? Making one's self look intelligent?
Do you think you are above standard copyright protections respected by most civil societies? Am I wrong that reasonably intelligent people such as yourself do not appreciate the difference between sharing a link and pirating an entire article without attribution?
Do you suffer some sort of psychopathic disorder that causes you to presume the rules that apply to everyone else don't apply to you? Perhaps a smaller hippocampus that stores less information that would provide emotional signals about the social consequences of things like piracy?
Do you think you could learn not to pirate intellectual property if carefully trained in societal expectations, and that trained prefrontal planning could help you overcome hippocampal deficiencies? Do you think it is supportive and educational for a person to suggest that possibility in the context of your extant behavior?
Posted by ugynok99 on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:27
In reply to Re: I accuse you of copyright violation » SLS, posted by Phillipa on September 28, 2014, at 9:39:04
> Scott I'm sorry. I know myself that sources I copy & paste from list "share" or e-mail to another". I would think this was the same. When I read this it seemed very familiar like the same or close to what came in my newsletter. Again I am sorry when you shared something that could have been helpful to many posters reading the article. Phillipa
"Share" and "email" do not provide subscribers technical means to paste the entire text of a published article into another Website. It would seem to be deliberate naivete for a person with enough intellectual capacity to understand the very technical article pirated into this thread to believe that "sharing" a link is the same as pasting the entire text without a link and without reference to the author.
Posted by ugynok99 on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:27
In reply to Re: please be civil » +#2447;+#2460;+#2503;+#2472;+#2509;+#2463;, posted by Dr. Bob on September 28, 2014, at 8:24:03
> Sharing something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
My issue is that copyright law prohibits piracy and civil society encourages citizens to share their knowledge of what is expected of responsible citizens. Are you interested in that exercise?
You are the one who did not respond to me supportively. SLS thanked me for pointing out his piracy. You defended the piracy and accused me of being uncivil for citing expectations of civil law. You prefer to defend piracy and accuse others of being uncivil when they oppose piracy. Your behavior borders on intimidating a witness. If your intent is to dissuade me from reporting piracy, you may be tampering with a witness contrary to 18 U.S. Code § 1512(d)(2).
At a minimum, you might incur some liability for refusing to acknowledge what any responsible Website administrator must know - that stealing content from other sites is wrong. When you passively allow such piracy, you might not be liable, but when you attack those who point out piracy, you might be liable for the piracy.
Posted by SLS on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:28
In reply to Re: I accuse you of copyright violation » SLS, posted by ugynok99 on September 29, 2014, at 1:22:34
You made your point quite clear in your first post. Thanks again.
You seem to like examining the psychosocial motivations of others. What is your motivation to continue your animated attack on me personally?
"wrong, ugly, immature, petty and selfish"
I was thinking the same thing.
- Scott
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2014, at 9:22:22
In reply to I accuse you of abetting piracy » Dr. Bob, posted by ugynok99 on September 29, 2014, at 9:17:27
> civil society encourages citizens to share their knowledge of what is expected of responsible citizens.
Please don't post under more than one name at the same time or change your posting name without following these steps:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#names
Thanks,
Bob
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