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Posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 16:13:08
In reply to to Phillipa - personal information, posted by violette on January 2, 2011, at 11:00:44
> Dr Bob, I think we need a way to permanently delete our accounts here, a feature common to other 21st century web sites.
>
I think the reason we cannot delete our accounts is because Dr. Bob doesn't want us to be "uncivil" or worst, and then delete our accounts only to come back as someone else. Although he does keep track of IP addresses because people who are blocked do come back with a different screen name but it doesn't take doctor bob much time to figure it out. Even if we could delete our acccounts, all our information remains part of Psycho Babble.
Posted by PartlyCloudy on January 2, 2011, at 16:48:55
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information, posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 16:09:08
**Sorry, but I had to add a trigger warning to this thread (for myself) and maybe for others invloved.**
pc
Thanks for the timely link. Makes me think of leopards.
> This is where it started the first time. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20070807/msgs/775400.html and there is more but I am too scared to look.
Posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 17:19:52
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information *Trigger*, posted by PartlyCloudy on January 2, 2011, at 16:48:55
I am going to personally email each name on that and see what's involved. I never opened it either. Since have new computer all new stuff on it. Had forgotten most of the old names. Leaving bye.
Posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 18:28:33
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 16:02:28
> Let me know if you're on here as maybe we need to change our emails? Here's a copy of what I received I have removed mine for security reasons. This really is getting serious. I'm posting it as asked why I don't defend myself. So attempting to now. Phillipa
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: NANCY STEWARD
> > To: nokidd@dreamscape.com ; support@americaneliquidstore.com ; support@dermitage.com ; terri@cignot.com ; tumbleweed315r@aol.com ; auntpriss@hotmail.com ; vapr.life@yahoo.com ; geoff@tastyvapor.us
> > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 7:23 PM
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> > http://metalserra.it/foto2011.php
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> Not sure what this email proves exactly. I am not going to open the link because it could be anything. It looks like spam to me when I read the email addresses. "auntpriss"? Who would give themselves that name on the internet? Maybe you are getting stuff from some of your ebayers.Also, you shouldn't post email addy's like you did with the above post. *shakes head*
The gathering of information was done in 2007 and earlier I believe from what I read in the posts (maybe lately too, but I have no proof of that). I am simply asking you to delete any information you have on me. A fair and simple request.
I do know from one poster that you were eventually blocked for your behaviour.
Posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 18:45:38
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information » violette, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 16:10:20
> Personally I prefer facebook as can delete stuff and set my own security settings. Great feature. I do not feel I will be posting here much longer as have found a very friendly site I prefer. Too much bickering here. I normally don't visit admin. Before attending a Birthday party for my Daughter just decided to see if anyone was posting on any boards. I also wish that emails could be deleted from the site. Some do change emails frequently from what I've seen and poster names also. Although I've noticed that new names are no longer posted here to notify Bob of a new name. I wonder why? Phillipa
If a member posts under a new name, they must notify Dr. Bob through admin. I don't see any new names around. Dr. Bob knows when a person has changed their screen name because they will have the same IP addy. The exception of course would be if someone moved or started posting from a friend's house.
I don't understand what you mean by "deleting emails from this site". Which emails? And if people do change their email addy, you have NO way of seeing that so why would you say "I also wish that emails could be deleted from the site. Some do change emails frequently" I changed my email to accomodate where my Babble Mails are sent, but it doesn't change anything else.I still had to register this new email with Dr. Bob's site.
I am really happy you have found a friendly site. I hope it's not on Facebook though because I don't trust that site with personal information at all. You may think you are safe, but it's really easy to hack into. Although I am sure that you will enjoy the social networking aspect of it, so that is a big positive. It will make you a happier person all around. Who knows, we may bump into each other again!
Posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 20:22:39
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information *Trigger*, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 17:19:52
Oh no. I would not email the people from that email. I hope you have a good anti-virus programme on your computer. Seriously, if you look at the names, it looks a lot the spam I get on one my accounts.
Besides, the problem isn't what you receive. Unless of course you receive a nasty email that you can tell is from someone on PB. But rather the information you collect and send out. I don't think anyone is asking for anything extreme. We simply want you to delete any personnal files you have on us including pictures. That's all we are hoping for.
Posted by violette on January 2, 2011, at 20:26:19
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information » violette, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 12:54:50
WHY would you publically post this short list of emails here if you thought my email address might be one of them? You even said you removed your own from that list for 'security reasons'. What about the rest of us? That looks like a spam message, but what if it's not - then what?
You should not be posting people's email addresses here or anything else people have emailed you before.
I have no idea how i received a personal email from you to my personal address, or why i am in your email address book along with university psychologists and psychiatrists with .edu addresses.
Hmmm. Maybe you are Dr. Bob, flitting around, collecting personal information about people who use this forum. Solstice might like that idea!
This is getting creepier. Actually, much too creepy for me.
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Let me know if you're on here as maybe we need to change our emails? Here's a copy of what I received I have removed mine for security reasons. This really is getting serious. I'm posting it as asked why I don't defend myself. So attempting to now. Phillipa
----- Original Message -----
From: NANCY STEWARD
To: nokidd@dreamscape.com ; support@americaneliquidstore.com ; support@dermitage.com ; terri@cignot.com ; tumbleweed315r@aol.com ; auntpriss@hotmail.com ; vapr.life@yahoo.com ; geoff@tastyvapor.us
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 7:23 PM
Posted by BayLeaf on January 3, 2011, at 8:45:41
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information » violette, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 12:54:50
I can't believe you posted that list of personal emails, etc. I'm STUNNED.
Bob needs to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx this out ASAP!
Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2011, at 12:34:34
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information *trigger* » Maxime, posted by Maxime on January 2, 2011, at 18:28:33
Maxime the 2007 thread was posted by you not me. So where did the info come from if not the achieves? You didn't store this thread did you? As for the addresses Violette is right it's spam. Posted to show spam is a common occurrence irreguardless of privacy setting and software. Read the emails liquor stores, and some nasty they don't exist or if they did no one replies as wrote to them all yesterday when got home from Birthday party. It's sad that I feel those that are petitioning for amnesty for blocked posters this might not happen if some hold on to the past back to 2007. Sad. I am off again to dog groomers. Might check later. Bye
Posted by SLS on January 3, 2011, at 13:20:26
In reply to Re Reread » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2011, at 12:34:34
> I can't believe you posted that list of personal emails, etc. I'm STUNNED.
>
> Bob needs to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx this out ASAP!What is going on here, Phillipa?
Folks here demonstrate a more sober, contemplative, and compassionate deliberation of this situation than I would if I discovered that my email address and other personal information were disseminated indiscriminately and without regard to the anonymity that is essential in order to feel that one is safe in disclosing oneself as being mentally ill in a forum like Psycho-Babble.
Phillipa, you can't possibly have done these things, could you have? I know your real name and location, and could easily pay you a visit. I have access to pictures of you. You even published a picture of yourself on Psycho-Babble. Remember? I have now recorded all of this personal information along with other sundry details about you, and saved these things on my computer. In my wildest of imaginations, it never occurred to me to compromise another poster's privacy and disclose their identity. Gosh.
I thought I was doing the right thing out of compassionate motives in exchanging email addresses with you in order to correspond. I entrusted you with my safety. If you think this is too melodramatic, then I will leave it on your conscience should the actions that you are alleged to have perpetrated prevent me from getting a job and leaving me friendless. Everyone in the whole world is watching. I hope you haven't done any of the things that people have accused you of in recent times. I don't think I would exercise the same restraint in my use of language as others here have demonstrated towards you given their beliefs regarding your behavior.
I am not accusing you of doing anything that I have no evidence of. I have never thought to investigate this situation. If I had such evidence, it would be worth a posting block to sharpen my tongue.
So far, I have no regrets in corresponding with you. Just be careful. Please.
- Scott
Posted by BayLeaf on January 3, 2011, at 14:16:51
In reply to Re Reread » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2011, at 12:34:34
"Read the emails liquor stores, and some nasty..."
Really? What I see are 1 person's real name, 3 peoples' personal email addresses, ZERO liquor stores and nothing "nasty" at all. The others are e-cigarette companies. Some people use these to help them quit smoking. Yeah, that's naaasty!
Oh, I forgot. I think there is a skin cream company too. How nasty! Please stop. Just stop.
Bay
Posted by alexandra_k on January 3, 2011, at 18:06:57
In reply to Re: Re Reread Now you've really ticked me off » Phillipa, posted by BayLeaf on January 3, 2011, at 14:16:51
I really don't think that there is any ill intent. Phillipa is one of the loveliest people I know.
That being said, I do think that there is lack of comprehension / understanding about how some (most?) of the posters here feel about their anonymity. In particular, a lack of comprehension / understanding about how when posters share such things as email addresses and photo's with her there is a display of trust that she will not pass that information onto third parties.
I engaged in some personal email correspondence with Phillipa at one point and then found I was receiving emails (in my opinion forwarded spam for the most part) to a whole bunch of people (obviously some other posters included in that bunch). The email addresses were there for all to see.
I asked Phillipa to delete my email address at that point, and I hope she has done so.
I am disappointed to hear that the situation hasn't changed since then.
Phillipa, you really are one of the most lovely, good natured people I know... I don't understand why you do this sh*t...
Posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 18:36:42
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so., posted by SLS on January 3, 2011, at 13:20:26
Scott, I have been observing for quite awhile and you seem to be the most level-headed and positive person that has stayed here.
This board seems less of a mental support board but a playground for public floggings and stonings. Here you have admitted to a complete file worthy of FBI/IRS standards and it is "ok" but another posters "assumed" actions are "creepy" and warrant ostracizing.
Do any of you Facebook or leave home? Are aliens going to decript hidden personal info from an email and come thru the monitor to take your mind? Probably not. There is more info from this board on the internet that everyone accepts when posting here that I can't understand the lynching that seem to bring more poster to the scene than actual help.
Posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 18:52:56
In reply to Re Reread » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2011, at 12:34:34
Actually it was me who said that what you receive was mostly likely spam and not to reply to them or open the link. I was in the archives, yes, looking for something else. I just wanted to make a request that if you had any of my info that you would kindly dispose of it. That is all. A simple request.
Posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 18:58:41
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so. » SLS, posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 18:36:42
What was your name before you were "ou812"? It's like you came out of nowhere. ???????
Posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 19:09:12
In reply to Re: Re Reread » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 18:52:56
And I wasn't hiding the fact that the original post was a few years ago. The heading of the original message is
"In reply to Re: What can I do? » Phillipa, posted by Quintal on August 11, 2007, at 20:09:13"
Posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 19:37:32
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so. » ou812, posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 18:58:41
I have been lurking for years and now writing an article on cyber-bullying. I have visited many sites and quite frankly I feel this site has the Borderline/ Paranoid /Passive-Aggressive elements that will support a great article. It is sad that the Phd. in charge spends all his valuable time re-directing threads and withholds his vast experiences and knowledge to be an active (if not only part-time) moderator.
Posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 20:08:50
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so., posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 19:37:32
> I have been lurking for years and now writing an article on cyber-bullying. I have visited many sites and quite frankly I feel this site has the Borderline/ Paranoid /Passive-Aggressive elements that will support a great article. It is sad that the Phd. in charge spends all his valuable time re-directing threads and withholds his vast experiences and knowledge to be an active (if not only part-time) moderator.
We are all part of Dr. Bob's experiment, and NO I am not delusional. You can read about it here in the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Medium-t.html
Good luck with your article. I would love to read it once you have finished writing it. Is it part of some graduate work you are doing, or do you write for a magazine?
Posted by SLS on January 3, 2011, at 20:41:22
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so. » SLS, posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 18:36:42
> Scott, I have been observing for quite awhile and you seem to be the most level-headed and positive person that has stayed here.
> This board seems less of a mental support board but a playground for public floggings and stonings. Here you have admitted to a complete file worthy of FBI/IRS standards and it is "ok" but another posters "assumed" actions are "creepy" and warrant ostracizing.I will take what you have said here into consideration. Thank you for extending to me your observations and perspectives. I'm not sure that I would have submitted my post were I to allow myself more time to deliberate my response to this issue.
I do not have an FBI file on Phillipa. However, I could certainly produce one and publish it were that to be my goal. I have the information. It was all too easy to find given the right clues. Scary stuff. It was my intent to demonstrate how powerful can be the possession and exploitation of information. I think I was also trying to frighten Phillipa, just in case she has been doing what others have accused her of. It is a survival mechanism.
Given all of the chatter I see revolving around Phillipa, I am now fearful that she might cause me harm, regardless of her intentions. Again, it was a survival mechanism on my part. I would also feel very hurt if I were to discover that Phillipa had betrayed my confidence. I feel pretty stupid right now.
My previous post demonstrated the anger that such a betrayal would elicit in me. I was angry. I found my anger to be directed towards Phillipa, even though I had no evidence of her behaving dangerously. I think this indicates that I have been growing more suspicious of her as I continue to read the accounts of others regarding her behavior.
Anger can be very motivating. However, it can also influence perception and produce conclusions that are not necessarily reflective of the facts.
I am not attempting to make excuses for my behavior so much as I am offering possible explanations to others as I try to understand what may have precipitated my reactions to this upsetting issue.
I don't feel safe anymore with Phillipa.
This is not a happy moment for me.
- Scott
Posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 21:24:40
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so. » SLS, posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 18:36:42
> Do any of you Facebook or leave home? Are aliens going to decript hidden personal info from an email and come thru the monitor to take your mind? Probably not. There is more info from this board on the internet that everyone accepts when posting here that I can't understand the lynching that seem to bring more poster to the scene than actual help.I don't think that is the point. This site is for people with mental illness to discuss meds etc. with other people suffering from similar illnesses. Many of the people here have careers and family. We don't want people to know about our illness. It's supposed to be an anonymous group and that is why we create a user name other than our own name. Comparing it to Facebook is rather unfair. I can only speak for myself and that it is THIS part of my life that I don't want the world to know about.
Posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 23:06:44
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so., posted by Maxime on January 3, 2011, at 21:24:40
I don't think that is the point. This site is for people with mental illness to discuss meds etc. with other people suffering from similar illnesses. Many of the people here have careers and family. We don't want people to know about our illness. It's supposed to be an anonymous group and that is why we create a user name other than our own name.Interesting as I have observer a less than supportive atmosphere here and a lack of moderation that could really help this board. It seems this is a primitive experiment in human and group behavior than the support group it is advertised to be. I have experienced 12-step group support that would not condone such interactions as we have seen here. I feel mental illness should have more public exposure and understanding than being swept under the rug with negative connotations. I have talked to strangers while waiting in a slow moving line and it seems if they aren't on an anxiety or psychotropic; they have a family member or friend that is.
Comparing it to Facebook is rather unfair. I can only speak for myself and that it is THIS part of my life that I don't want the world to know about.
Okay, I can appreciate you wanting to only to share here as I feel your family is lacking in the support that would be beneficial. I am sorry for the relationship you have with your brother an it is sad that he has treated you as he has, Anyway, my comparison to Facebook is that a begin picture that is floating around (assuming it is unrelated to this site or a particular incriminating action) is posted to FB without much thought. However, this picture seems to be a catastrophic event in of itself. The perception of reality is very interesting to me when compared to the various social media. I see PC is another mental illness discussion board and profile pictures are freely posted. This site is unique and worth observing. :)
Posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 23:08:48
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so. » ou812, posted by SLS on January 3, 2011, at 20:41:22
I wish there was an "EDIT Comment" button option here too! :)
Posted by Glydin50 on January 4, 2011, at 0:00:15
In reply to Re: Phillipa - Say it ain't so., posted by ou812 on January 3, 2011, at 19:37:32
> I have been lurking for years and now writing an article on cyber-bullying. I have visited many sites and quite frankly I feel this site has the Borderline/ Paranoid /Passive-Aggressive elements that will support a great article.
~~~ Dr. Bob is aware of you thinking this site would support a great article and of you writing such an article? I would be interested in knowing that, if you would answer. Thanks
Posted by jane d on January 4, 2011, at 5:33:20
In reply to Re: to Phillipa - personal information » violette, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2011, at 12:54:50
Phillipa,
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
I do think posting these email addresses was a mistake. I don't think it's a huge one - they are identified as nothing except the victims of spam - but they didn't ask to have their email addresses published here. I'd be very unhappy to find my email address anywhere on the internet - if only because I don't need any additional spam.
I think you should ask Bob if he will remove them from your original post here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101201/msgs/975585.html
and also from the posts by Violette and Maxime who reposted them here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101201/msgs/975605.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101201/msgs/975619.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101201/msgs/975638.html
as well as from any other posts I may have missed.
Jane
Posted by ou812 on January 4, 2011, at 14:02:37
In reply to Re: » ou812, posted by Glydin50 on January 4, 2011, at 0:00:15
I haven't contacted Dr. Bob myself but I feel that he has enjoyed the publicity of the previous NYT article and by opening a Face Book page and encouraging poster to tweet threads that more public exposure is encouraged. I feel that PB is a toy to be played with (or just observed) when the mood strikes as there have been a few extended periods of his absence where the petri dish has been interesting to watch.
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