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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2010, at 11:09:49
In reply to Re: Agree with Dinah. Too much potential for hurt, IMO, posted by Deneb on July 4, 2010, at 20:24:27
> I would feel very bad about rating replies to my posts. If people respond they're trying to be helpful and I appreciate that.
I didn't think anyone would be required to rate replies, so if people felt uncomfortable doing so, they wouldn't have to.
> And I must confess to be smallminded enough that I'd likely decide never to respond again to anyone who indicated that my reply wasn't helpful. Or not at all if enough of my replies were judged unhelpful.
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> Or maybe it's more a case that I post here with the intent to be helpful, and if I'm not I'd better stop wasting my time.
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> Dinah> But not being selected as best answer doesn't mean that your response wasn't good.
That's a good point. Plus, maybe seeing which posts someone considers the most helpful would help others be more helpful.
> I dunno, I wouldn't feel bad, but if others will feel bad then it is a bad idea because my goal is to reward people more and encourage participation.
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> DenebSo no one can be rewarded because some who aren't will feel bad? It seems to me some posters already indicate who they consider helpful to them.
Bob
Posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 12:45:13
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2010, at 11:09:49
So what you're saying is that only rating would be for most helpful answer? No helpful/unhelpful? Would just the original poster "vote"?
That would be better I guess. I thoroughly dislike those helpful/unhelpful choices.
I still wouldn't do it, I wouldn't want anyone to rate me, and it might make me less overall inclined to post if this became some sort of competition. But perhaps others would post more, so those of us who post less wouldn't be a loss.
Posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:06:51
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2010, at 11:09:49
Seems like a bad thing in a community. It'd be fine if the only thing here is information seeking. But that's not the only thing on Babble. I think it's rude in a community to tell people they aren't helpful. Or even that they weren't as helpful as Poster X.
If someone went to the trouble to reply to me, then I owe them a bit more than that, IMO.
But again, that's just me. Perhaps others will enjoy the challenge.
Posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:09:04
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:06:51
Of course, maybe Dr. Bob would prefer to only retain the posters that others deem helpful.
Posted by 8675309 on July 6, 2010, at 13:20:01
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:06:51
I agree with you. The community feel of peers would not be enhanced ("mutual support")
Posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dinah, posted by 8675309 on July 6, 2010, at 13:20:01
Seems pretty unhelpful to rate posters' responses. For one thing, what's helpful at one moment, may not be helpful at another. I don't see the value in rating answers-- I mean if it's helpful, great--if not so helpful, why make a point of it?
I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone? As long as I'm civil and do my best to be helpful, it seems that I've done all I could do. Knowing it wasn't helpful might discourage me from trying again--with anyone, not just that particular poster.
I've seen sites that do this-- but I don't really get the point, even where it's just a translation or something.
Willful
Posted by 10derHeart on July 6, 2010, at 17:00:47
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11
> I think it's rude in a community to tell people they aren't helpful. Or even that they weren't as helpful as Poster X.
>
> Dinah> I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone?
>
> WillfulThat could be the news from Lake Wobeher, where all the women are weak, all the men are bad looking, and all the posters are below average.
Bob
Posted by 8675309 on July 8, 2010, at 5:37:49
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
Oh my... How helpful would U rate yourself on that comment, Dr. Bob?
Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 6:07:12
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
Hey Dinah,
I bet almost all of your posts would get selected as best answer! You're one of the most helpful people on Babble!
Deneb
Posted by 8675309 on July 8, 2010, at 6:25:21
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 6:07:12
Before it begins :-)
Posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
What?!!!
Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?
blech.
pc
Posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 8:51:21
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45
> What?!!!
>
> Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?
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> blech.
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> pcI'm having trouble on many levels with this one.
Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 9:45:17
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
Hehehe! Lake Wobeher!
You're funny!
((((((((((((Dr. Bob)))))))))))))
Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:19:44
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
I don't understand.
Went right over my head, apparently.
But I am tending to feel uncomfortable, and as if what I thought was a thoughtful discussion has now been dismissed or something
I know I am probably overreacting. Happens as a result of lack of understanding and information.
Can you explain your joke, Dr. Bob?
Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:22:24
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
Lake Wobegon....Garrison Keillor??
Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 12:38:18
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:17:00
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:19:44
I don't understand either. lol
I just thought Lake Wobegon was a funny name. hehe
:)
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:21:09
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » 10derHeart, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:17:00
Oops, I mean Wobeher lol
Wobegon, Wobeher, funny play on words
Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:32:55
In reply to What the heck, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 8:51:21
> > What?!!!
> >
> > Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?
> >
> > blech.
> >
> > pc
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> I'm having trouble on many levels with this one.I certainly can understand that you're having trouble with this post.
It is the fox in the chicken house now. Unheard of on a support forum of any kind and certainly not on a mental health support site that is owned and administrated by an M.D.
I'm very sorry, NFP..........xoxoxoxoMissSafeLove
>
Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:34:58
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45
As Bob Dylan sang "we all gotta serve somebody".......who could this incivility be reported to? I have my thinking cap on.......
Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:41:34
In reply to Re: I have an idea for Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on July 3, 2010, at 2:25:00
Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 14:46:39
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:21:09
>Wobegon, Wobeher, funny play on words
Depends on context, timing, appropriateness, I suppose.
I just think Dr. Bob might ought to explain his cryptic postings, especially when they are possibly being misunderstood....or in my case, not understood at all.
Posted by jade k on July 8, 2010, at 15:06:34
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54
> > I think it's rude in a community to tell people they aren't helpful. Or even that they weren't as helpful as Poster X.
> >
> > Dinah
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> > I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone?
> >
> > Willful
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> That could be the news from Lake Wobeher, where all the women are weak, all the men are bad looking, and all the posters are below average.
>
> Bob
Wikipedia:The Lake Wobegon effect
Main article: Illusory superiority
The characterization of the fictional location, where "all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average," has been used to describe a real and pervasive human tendency to overestimate ones achievements and capabilities in relation to others.The Lake Wobegon effect, where all or nearly all of a group claim to be above average, has been observed among drivers, CEOs, stock market analysts, college students, parents, and state education officials, among others.
Dr. Bob?
~Jade
Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 15:07:12
In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 14:46:39
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