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Posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 13:56:19
Dr. Bob, while Googling for my posts I discovered that your site has many URLs. Did you know about this?
https://dr-bob.securesites.com/
Posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 14:20:46
In reply to Dr. Bob, did you know about this?, posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 13:56:19
Dr. Bob, please answer, I'm getting all paranoid about this now.
I know you don't want me searching for you on-line, but I just did a bit and found someone rated you on ratemd.com, but it redirects to another page so that you can't see the rating. Did you have something to do with that?
Posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 15:49:02
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, did you know about this?, posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 14:20:46
OK, nvm, it was happening to all the doctor ratings. Sorry, got paranoid.
Posted by emilyp on June 13, 2010, at 10:44:28
In reply to Dr. Bob, did you know about this?, posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 13:56:19
This is not intended to be mean to you, but if I had to say, OF COURSE Dr. Bob knows. He most likely purchased those URL's so the traffic will go directly to his site. As much as you like Dr. Bob, you should not forget that Dr. Bob runs this site ultimately for his living - i.e. to help his career and ultimately make money. The more people that come to this site make it easier for Dr. Bob to do his research and thus helps his career. He does not run this site just out of the kindness of his heart.
And the last one is the just the I.P. address that corresponds to the web site
In light of Dr. Bob's primary motive, does this make you think differently about our decision to go to Hawaii? If Dr. Bob was really concerned about the people on this board, it would seem to me that he would hold his annual event somewhere that is easier to reach - not just at the time of the APA. In fact, that seems like an awfully odd time to have a meeting of people who write on the board
Posted by Deneb on June 13, 2010, at 12:24:51
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, did you know about this?, posted by emilyp on June 13, 2010, at 10:44:28
Yeah, I realized Dr. Bob purchased those domain names. I checked the WHOIS. I don't see how having multiple domain names will help with SEO though.
I think Dr. Bob really does most of the Babble work out of the kindness of his heart. It is a lot of work just to maybe help one's career. I bet Babble doesn't make much money for him at all. He only has a few advertisements and he evens lets us hide them.
I don't think you get any money from doing presentations at the APA.
If Dr. Bob were to hold the Babble Parties not where the APA is, where would he hold them? The APA goes to a bunch of places and gives Babblers who live in different areas a chance to go.
Most people here probably live in the US, but would it be fair to hold the Babble Parties in the US all the time? Probably not. I'd say the APA goes to places that have a high likelihood of having Babblers (well except for Hawaii).
Dr. Bob also meets up with Babblers on his other trips. Like the trip to South Africa coming up.
I think that Dr. Bob primarily has Babble to help people and as a side result it is also good for his career. I don't think having a website like this really helps one's career much for the amount of work it takes.
To keep up with Babble for 10 years requires a motive more than just furthering one's career. The amount of work Dr. Bob puts into Babble is way more than any personal gains he gets. I dunno, but if I were trying to further my career, I wouldn't spend time everyday moderating a board.
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 13, 2010, at 13:13:35
In reply to Dr. Bob, did you know about this?, posted by Deneb on June 12, 2010, at 13:56:19
> Dr. Bob, while Googling for my posts I discovered that your site has many URLs. Did you know about this?
I did. But Google's only supposed to use this one. Is it using those others, too? FYI:
is for a friend of mine;
> http://www.group-study.org
> http://www.large-group.orgI got for projects involving others, in case we wanted independent domain names;
> https://dr-bob.securesites.com
is for secure connections for Babble registrations; and
as emily said, is just the server's IP address.
Bob
Posted by glydin 2010 on June 13, 2010, at 16:10:32
In reply to Re: URLs, posted by Dr. Bob on June 13, 2010, at 13:13:35
is still true in the world of Medical Academia. The richness of this site for data.... it is well to not forget.
I believe this site aids Dr. Bob's career.
Posted by Deneb on June 13, 2010, at 19:31:49
In reply to Re: URLs, posted by Dr. Bob on June 13, 2010, at 13:13:35
Yeah, Google is using the other ones too. dr-bob.org still comes up first though.
Posted by Deneb on June 13, 2010, at 19:43:07
In reply to Publish or Perish, posted by glydin 2010 on June 13, 2010, at 16:10:32
I think it aids his career too (for the most part). Sometimes he gets bad press. There are a lot of people it seems who disagree with the way Dr. Bob runs things here and they are not shy to let everyone know.
I think the publish or perish thing applies to all areas of academia. Dr. Bob hasn't really published much about Babble at all and we are currently not being studied. Dr. Bob spends most of his time just maintaining the boards.
Deneb
Posted by Glydin 2010 on June 13, 2010, at 20:03:59
In reply to Re: Publish or Perish » glydin 2010, posted by Deneb on June 13, 2010, at 19:43:07
I didn't intend for that observation to be necessarily disparaging. I just think it's a fact that we as posters DO need to be aware of and reminded of for the purposes of informed consent.
At any time, the study versus not study can change. I believe in the thought that people's natures have them do things because it works for them.
Posted by muffled on June 14, 2010, at 13:38:28
In reply to Re: Publish or Perish » Deneb, posted by Glydin 2010 on June 13, 2010, at 20:03:59
> I didn't intend for that observation to be necessarily disparaging. I just think it's a fact that we as posters DO need to be aware of and reminded of for the purposes of informed consent.
>
> At any time, the study versus not study can change. I believe in the thought that people's natures have them do things because it works for them.
I tend to agree with this above.
Maybe there are no current studies, but the posts are all archived in perpetuity it seems, so can be used for further research.
Also, there was an influx(or was 'sposed to be) of people who were recommended to this site as some kind or (research) (?) thing or something.
People need to know most sites are open and that you are vulnerable on the 'net.
Not just here, but everywhere.
This place can lull you into a FALSE sense of security, because its a 'mental health site', and its maintained by a p-doc.
But in fact it 'EXTRA' acessable here(more so than some other sites), and so EXTRA NOT private because there is so much interconnection thru google and tweets etc.
Everything here is VERY public and forever.
Be careful what you say.
M
Posted by glydin 2010 on June 14, 2010, at 14:19:23
In reply to Re: Publish or Perish, posted by muffled on June 14, 2010, at 13:38:28
> Also, there was an influx(or was 'sposed to be) of people who were recommended to this site as some kind or (research) (?) thing or something.~~~ I do not recall any disclosure about WHAT that was about or else I missed it. There was a notation on registering that addressed *if part of a web study* or something similar and the *posters may or may not tell if they are part of a research project*.... all very 007ish : )
Related....Dr. Bob is not open, IMO, as to why he keeps this site going. Speculation can abound. I don't believe any of us can correctly determine the reason(s) in terms of selfishness, unselfishness, a combo or the % if it is a combo. BECAUSE, I don't think he'll suddenly come forth with the answer to that.... IOW, I don't think there's enough disclosure to label Villian or Angel as to motivation.
I agree w/ the remainder of your post. It is very easy to become complacent and think you're just talking to the little world this becomes in the illusion.
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 15, 2010, at 2:49:53
In reply to Re: Publish or Perish, posted by muffled on June 14, 2010, at 13:38:28
> People need to know most sites are open and that you are vulnerable on the 'net.
> Not just here, but everywhere.
> This place can lull you into a FALSE sense of security, because its a 'mental health site', and its maintained by a p-doc.
> But in fact it 'EXTRA' acessable here(more so than some other sites), and so EXTRA NOT private because there is so much interconnection thru google and tweets etc.
> Everything here is VERY public and forever.
> Be careful what you say.In fact, that's a potential advantage of the new buttons, and a potential disadvantage of hiding them:
> posts here have always been public and available for sharing, including on Facebook and Twitter when they came along. A dialectic of this community is that it is public, yet can feel private. Maybe another way the new buttons can help is as reminders of the public aspect.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090813/msgs/922824.html
Bob
Posted by Glydin 2010 on June 15, 2010, at 9:09:03
In reply to Re: FALSE sense of security, posted by Dr. Bob on June 15, 2010, at 2:49:53
Short of allowing post deletions and the rare times of Adm deletions, I can't think of any ways to handle poster regret about specific info disclosed. We are warned. However, the topics discussed here does evolve a false sense of intimacy. Post deletion has been rejected so maybe the lesson is to think twice and know there is accountability? If for no other reason, for self protection.
People do tend to pour out when in need and struggling, which is not a bad thing but can return to haunt and bother.
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