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Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:21
In reply to Re: please be civil » Lou Pilder, posted by Dr. Bob on March 23, 2010, at 0:53:56
> > These nerve agents were used as rat poison and roach poison and then used by the Nazis.
>
> Lou,
>
> This is a reminder not to post anything about Nazis. I've redirected the above post and follow-ups to it to Psycho-Babble Politics. Thanks,
>
> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote in your subject line,[...be civil...Lou...],and then in the text,[...This is a {reminder} to not post {anything} about xxxxx...]
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to convey to the membership here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opprtunity to respond to you.
A. Where in your TOS here does it state that a member can not post {anything} about xxxxx?
1B. Since you have written that you are posting a {reminder},could you post here a link to a post that is in a thread, and post a clue for me to see it, where you have told me that I could not post {anything } about xxxxx? If you could post a linkk to another post in such a thread, then I could look through the posts in that thread and discover such a post if it exists.
2B. Is there a post of this nature by you to another member that mentioned xxxxx? If so, could you post a link to another post in that thread so that I could discover this post if it exists?
C. Why is it considered to be uncivil by you (your rationale) for me as a member here to mention the xxxxx?
D. Are you aware that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about I.G. Farben?
E. other questions to follow if you post answers to me questions to you.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:22
In reply to Lou's reply-stpanthnk » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2010, at 7:30:58
> > > These nerve agents were used as rat poison and roach poison and then used by the Nazis.
> >
> > Lou,
> >
> > This is a reminder not to post anything about Nazis. I've redirected the above post and follow-ups to it to Psycho-Babble Politics. Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> You wrote in your subject line,[...be civil...Lou...],and then in the text,[...This is a {reminder} to not post {anything} about xxxxx...]
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to convey to the membership here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opprtunity to respond to you.
> A. Where in your TOS here does it state that a member can not post {anything} about xxxxx?
> 1B. Since you have written that you are posting a {reminder},could you post here a link to a post that is in a thread, and post a clue for me to see it, where you have told me that I could not post {anything } about xxxxx? If you could post a linkk to another post in such a thread, then I could look through the posts in that thread and discover such a post if it exists.
> 2B. Is there a post of this nature by you to another member that mentioned xxxxx? If so, could you post a link to another post in that thread so that I could discover this post if it exists?
> C. Why is it considered to be uncivil by you (your rationale) for me as a member here to mention the xxxxx?
> D. Are you aware that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about I.G. Farben?
> E. other questions to follow if you post answers to me questions to you.
> Lou PilderMr. Hsiung,
Here is a link to the post that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about xxxxx. Could you post a reply here that you could use to justify that what you wrote about me (being uncivil)? If not, could you rescind your statement to me to be civil?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/713145.html
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:23
In reply to Lou's request to Mr. Hsiung-ehxpowstphactoe?, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2010, at 8:19:34
> > > > These nerve agents were used as rat poison and roach poison and then used by the Nazis.
> > >
> > > Lou,
> > >
> > > This is a reminder not to post anything about Nazis. I've redirected the above post and follow-ups to it to Psycho-Babble Politics. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > Mr. Hsiung,
> > You wrote in your subject line,[...be civil...Lou...],and then in the text,[...This is a {reminder} to not post {anything} about xxxxx...]
> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to convey to the membership here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opprtunity to respond to you.
> > A. Where in your TOS here does it state that a member can not post {anything} about xxxxx?
> > 1B. Since you have written that you are posting a {reminder},could you post here a link to a post that is in a thread, and post a clue for me to see it, where you have told me that I could not post {anything } about xxxxx? If you could post a linkk to another post in such a thread, then I could look through the posts in that thread and discover such a post if it exists.
> > 2B. Is there a post of this nature by you to another member that mentioned xxxxx? If so, could you post a link to another post in that thread so that I could discover this post if it exists?
> > C. Why is it considered to be uncivil by you (your rationale) for me as a member here to mention the xxxxx?
> > D. Are you aware that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about I.G. Farben?
> > E. other questions to follow if you post answers to me questions to you.
> > Lou Pilder
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> Here is a link to the post that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about xxxxx. Could you post a reply here that you could use to justify that what you wrote about me (being uncivil)? If not, could you rescind your statement to me to be civil?
> Lou Pilder
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/713145.html
> Lou PilderMr. Hsiung,
You have posted in the above that anything educational is OK to post here, per the mission of the forum.
Education is putting forth facts to others, called teaching. If you are now reversing your rescinding of your prohibition to me not to post {anything} about xxxxx, which could be facts, I was led to beleive that you had rescinded your directive to me and hence I consider, unless you retract your statement here that I was uncivil, that there is the potential for others to consider your action to me to constitute entrapment.
Are you aware of what psychiatrists and psychologists have written about in relation to the psychological and emotional damage that could happen to someone that is the recipiant of entrapment?
You have posted that I am uncivil for posting a fact about xxxxx. Would you be willing to submit this to an ethics group for them to make their determination as to if I am uncivil for following the mission of the forum?
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:23
In reply to Lou's request to Mr. Hsiung-ehntrapmehnt?, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2010, at 8:51:35
> > > > > These nerve agents were used as rat poison and roach poison and then used by the Nazis.
> > > >
> > > > Lou,
> > > >
> > > > This is a reminder not to post anything about Nazis. I've redirected the above post and follow-ups to it to Psycho-Babble Politics. Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > > Mr. Hsiung,
> > > You wrote in your subject line,[...be civil...Lou...],and then in the text,[...This is a {reminder} to not post {anything} about xxxxx...]
> > > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to convey to the membership here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opprtunity to respond to you.
> > > A. Where in your TOS here does it state that a member can not post {anything} about xxxxx?
> > > 1B. Since you have written that you are posting a {reminder},could you post here a link to a post that is in a thread, and post a clue for me to see it, where you have told me that I could not post {anything } about xxxxx? If you could post a linkk to another post in such a thread, then I could look through the posts in that thread and discover such a post if it exists.
> > > 2B. Is there a post of this nature by you to another member that mentioned xxxxx? If so, could you post a link to another post in that thread so that I could discover this post if it exists?
> > > C. Why is it considered to be uncivil by you (your rationale) for me as a member here to mention the xxxxx?
> > > D. Are you aware that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about I.G. Farben?
> > > E. other questions to follow if you post answers to me questions to you.
> > > Lou Pilder
> >
> > Mr. Hsiung,
> > Here is a link to the post that you rescinded your directive to me to not post about xxxxx. Could you post a reply here that you could use to justify that what you wrote about me (being uncivil)? If not, could you rescind your statement to me to be civil?
> > Lou Pilder
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/713145.html
> > Lou Pilder
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> You have posted in the above that anything educational is OK to post here, per the mission of the forum.
> Education is putting forth facts to others, called teaching. If you are now reversing your rescinding of your prohibition to me not to post {anything} about xxxxx, which could be facts, I was led to beleive that you had rescinded your directive to me and hence I consider, unless you retract your statement here that I was uncivil, that there is the potential for others to consider your action to me to constitute entrapment.
> Are you aware of what psychiatrists and psychologists have written about in relation to the psychological and emotional damage that could happen to someone that is the recipiant of entrapment?
> You have posted that I am uncivil for posting a fact about xxxxx. Would you be willing to submit this to an ethics group for them to make their determination as to if I am uncivil for following the mission of the forum?
> Lou PilderMr. Hsiung,
Your false catagorization of me as uncivil has made for me difficult times ahead. But that doesn't matter now.
You see, I just want to do God's will. And He has allowed me to go up to the Mountaintop. And I looked over and saw the Lake of Fire. And I saw those cast into it and do not want for any of God's children to be cast into the Lake of Fire. So I do not fear any man, for I have been made free from the lies of men. His truth has made me free. My eyes have seen the Glory of God.
And there are others also.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FiCxZKuv8
Posted by SLS on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:23
In reply to Lou's request to Mr. Hsiung-hztrewth, posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 16:17:24
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FiCxZKuv8
Powerful. Watching this speech always gives me goose-bumps.
I wonder what psychiatrists consider to be the promised land. Perhaps curing mental illnesses without the need for administering chronic drug treatment? Until then, I guess they must do their best to use the treatments that are currently available. I don't think it is their desire to hurt people with their treatments.
- Scott
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 24, 2010, at 19:58:07
In reply to Lou's reply-stpanthnk » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2010, at 19:21:21
> 1B. Since you have written that you are posting a {reminder},could you post here a link to a post that is in a thread, and post a clue for me to see it, where you have told me that I could not post {anything } about xxxxx?
Lou,
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20071106/msgs/808967.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 10:29:13
In reply to Re: Lou's reply, posted by Dr. Bob on March 24, 2010, at 19:58:07
Dr Bob are you familiar with the holocaust denial laws? No matter what your intention I do not believe you are entitled to outlaw the mention of the Nazis in a factual manner even on your own forum. This forum is seen in Europe where such things are taken quite seriously.
Please consider carefully.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2010, at 13:04:33
In reply to Freedom to suppress speech limited » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 10:29:13
> Dr Bob are you familiar with the holocaust denial laws? No matter what your intention I do not believe you are entitled to outlaw the mention of the Nazis in a factual manner even on your own forum. This forum is seen in Europe where such things are taken quite seriously.
>
> Please consider carefully.Friends,
It is written here.[...suppress...]
I ask;
A. If Mr. Hsiung can supress the mention of one thing, can then he supresss other things?
B. If so, what could be the criteria to be able to suppress anything?
C. Is it a sound mental-health practice to suppress what is supressed here?
D. other questions if these are answered
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2010, at 13:27:19
In reply to Lou's response-psownmhentlhellth, posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2010, at 13:04:33
> > Dr Bob are you familiar with the holocaust denial laws? No matter what your intention I do not believe you are entitled to outlaw the mention of the Nazis in a factual manner even on your own forum. This forum is seen in Europe where such things are taken quite seriously.
> >
> > Please consider carefully.
>
> Friends,
> It is written here.[...suppress...]
> I ask;
> A. If Mr. Hsiung can supress the mention of one thing, can then he supresss other things?
> B. If so, what could be the criteria to be able to suppress anything?
> C. Is it a sound mental-health practice to suppress what is supressed here?
> D. other questions if these are answered
> LouFriends,
There is much more to this here. You see, there was a discussion concerning this and I objected to the supression. Mr. Hsiung then rescinded his directive to me and posted that it is fair enough. But then he posted that I was uncivil even after he rescinded his directive to me. I am asking for him to rescind his posting that I am uncivil. But until he does that, if he does, I am under the threat of expulsion if I post how xxxxx used chemical compounds in relation to what Mr. Hsiung includes in his medicine board, which is to suppress that education to the members there.
Now that brings up as to what could be the possibilities that Mr. Hsiung has reason to prohibit me from posting such on the medicine board that could keep the members from knowing what it is concerning the chemical make-up of some psychotropic drugs as to how the xxxxx used those chemicals?
Could not the members knowing that help them in making a more informed decision as to if they want to take the chemicals or not into their system by seeing what those chemicals did historically? And if so, could that not be supportive and educational to the members here? Could they not make their own determination for that? Why the suppression on the medicine forum?
Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2010, at 16:04:30
In reply to Lou's response-suprzun, posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2010, at 13:27:19
> I am under the threat of expulsion if I post how xxxxx used chemical compounds
Lou,
Please don't even use xs instead. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 16:11:02
In reply to Re: Lou's response, posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2010, at 16:04:30
Are you singling out Lou or is everyone prohibited in the same way?
Posted by Sigismund on March 25, 2010, at 19:47:04
In reply to Re: Lou's response » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 16:11:02
Maybe it's just Lou?
I seem to be able to mention the Nazis.
Posted by zazenducke on March 26, 2010, at 9:57:00
In reply to Re: Lou's response, posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2010, at 16:04:30
Posted by Sigismund on March 29, 2010, at 2:13:28
In reply to J'ACCUSE (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on March 26, 2010, at 9:57:00
Nothing happens, no one comes, no one goes, it's awful.
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2010, at 0:31:00
In reply to Re: J'ACCUSE, posted by Sigismund on March 29, 2010, at 2:13:28
There were terrible things done in war :(
:( :( :( (
War is bad.
There is evil in this world.
Lotta evil.
:(
There is good too.
I try and think of that.
Of good.
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2010, at 0:31:48
In reply to Nazi's, posted by muffled on April 18, 2010, at 0:31:00
forgot to tick the box
Posted by zazenducke on April 19, 2010, at 18:36:07
In reply to Nazi's, posted by muffled on April 18, 2010, at 0:31:00
Greetings muffletta Yes people tend to forget that the first people the Nazis gassed were mental patients. The underlying premise of Nazi psychiatry was that the good of society took precedence over the rights of the individual. But there is indeed much that is good in life. hope you are well.
> There were terrible things done in war :(
> :( :( :( (
> War is bad.
> There is evil in this world.
> Lotta evil.
> :(
> There is good too.
> I try and think of that.
> Of good.
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 10, 2012, at 5:46:09
In reply to Re: Lou's response » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 16:11:02
> Are you singling out Lou or is everyone prohibited in the same way?
Mr. Hsiung,
The member here has requested from you for you to confirm or not the question to you. I am also interested in a response to the member's request.
Now I am requesting that you post here your answer to the member's request. If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you here.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 12, 2013, at 13:26:42
In reply to Lou's request to Mr. Hsiung- » zazenducke, posted by Lou Pilder on May 10, 2012, at 5:46:09
> > Are you singling out Lou or is everyone prohibited in the same way?
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> The member here has requested from you for you to confirm or not the question to you. I am also interested in a response to the member's request.
> Now I am requesting that you post here your answer to the member's request. If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you here.
> Lou PilderMr Hsiung,
In accordance with your reminder procedure, the above.
Lou PIlder
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 17, 2013, at 8:05:55
In reply to Lou's reminder to Mr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on February 12, 2013, at 13:26:42
> > > Are you singling out Lou or is everyone prohibited in the same way?
> >
> > Mr. Hsiung,
> > The member here has requested from you for you to confirm or not the question to you. I am also interested in a response to the member's request.
> > Now I am requesting that you post here your answer to the member's request. If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you here.
> > Lou Pilder
>
> Mr Hsiung,
> In accordance with your reminder procedure, the above.
> Lou PIlder
>
> Mr Hsiung,
In regards to your policy to keep reminding you, the above.
Lou PIider
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2013, at 8:12:54
In reply to Re: Lou's response » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenducke on March 25, 2010, at 16:11:02
> Are you singling out Lou or is everyone prohibited in the same way?
ZZDucke,
You wrote the above. If you could continue to post here, then I could respond to you, for there is more that we could bring out here that I think could save lives of readers here and prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions.
Lou
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