![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 17 of 17. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by fayeroe on September 4, 2009, at 12:33:48
After a couple of weeks of reflection, I have made a decision to leave Babble forever.
I've been here approximately 7 years. I think I came in 2002. Zenhussy was the first person that I met here. GardenerGirl, Glydin and Emmy were next. I thank you so very much for the welcome to Babble.
I came because I was trying to come off EffexorXr. It was killing me and I had to find someone who might have had similiar experiences with the drug. I found excellent help in the medication forum. Unfortunately, I don't remember the names of the posters who helped me.My brain wasn't at it's best then. Through your encouragement and with the help of my pharmacist, I beat that med.
Sigismund, could you marry me and have a wife in Australia and one in the US? :-) I've never enjoyed talking politics with anyone as much as I have with you. Topher, you know the deep and abiding love that I have for the way you turn a phrase. I also love you for the strength that you've shown through some of the most difficult times that any man could have.... (I also covet your beautiful dogs.) Our love for music has uplifted me more than once. Caraher, you were a rock for me and a damned good member of the politics forum, Alex, What can I say? We had our ups and our downs but still respect one another. PC, in all the time I've been here, I've known that our connection ran deep and true. I tell Zen how wonderful she is at least twice a day. :-) I would have quit swirling (like today) and gone down the drain more than once if I had not had your strength to draw on and the unconditional love that has helped me through many a day. The big dog gets kisses too. Phil, where do I start with you? You're in my heart and soul and I'd do anything for you. Twinleaf, you've inspired me more than I can count. Zaz, I've missed you like hell. Bayleaf, thank you for your support and rational posts. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. I've really, really missed The Cheshire Cat. I hope he is all right.
Lou, thank you for confusing me so many times and being such a gentleman about it. rksontos, you've always been one of my favourite voices of reason. Kath, Flutterby, gobbledegook, Texas Chic, obsidian, Glydin, ( how about a shout out for Chrissy?) yxibow, olderheart (thank you for answering questions) Tabitha, jammers, cass,Kelly, who crocheted the blanket for my premature granddaughter, (she sleeps with it..she is 5) Phillipa, angela2, Lar, henrietta..I thank you for being my friends. If anyone feels left out, it is not on purpose...I am older than dirt and the brain forgets my own name at times....
There are posters who changed their names and I have no way of knowing who you are. I want you to know that I thank you for being supportive all these years.
When I came here, I didn't understand the blocking system. ( still don't) Why were people being blocked and why did some get such long bans? I'm walking away from here wondering how anyone would feel that blocking someone for a year is going to help them. Help them how? Help them feel more rejected, unloved, misunderstood, hurt, angry, weak, lonely, left without the lifeboat of Babble, more isolated, and last but not least, worthless? Zen got one year? Still blows my mind when I think of it.
If you ask why I stayed after deciding that I didn't like the administrative policies here...I liked the people and I still like them.
I believe that favoritism has been shown here. I think that it has hurt the system. I wish that the "power" was applied in a kinder and gentler way.
It was a very good thing when the University of Chicago disconnected from Babble. It was gratifying to know that they read and listened to our concerns.
My horse is too tired and too old and the windmill has gotten very rusty....so we won't be tiling anymore.
I'm tired of worrying about myself and others at Babble and I'm tired of worrying about the draconian measures that are used in the administration of the site.
My psychiatrist and three of his colleagues have been reading Babble for some time now. Lots of muttering and shaking of heads coming from their direction. The 2 men and 2 women concluded that "Babble is a very harmful site when it comes to the mental health of the vulnerable". The blocking system knocked them off their feet.
I hope that we all find what we need in the future. I recommend grandchildren, dogs, cats, lots of books, a creek to wade in, coconut cream pie, music, gardening, homemade pizza, Dos Equs beer and "the most interesting man in the world".
I will not be reading Babble after I post this. PsychoBabble comes off of my favorites. My babblemail will be on for a week. If you want to reach me through that system you can. If you want to communicate with Zen, babblemail me and I will give you her email address.
Ciao, Fayeroe
Posted by fleeting flutterby on September 5, 2009, at 11:46:33
In reply to I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by fayeroe on September 4, 2009, at 12:33:48
----flutterby: Vaya con dios! as you ride off into the sunset- please know that I am with you in spirit-- the hot and arrid southwest wind will remind you.
>> If you ask why I stayed after deciding that I didn't like the administrative policies here...I liked the people and I still like them.<<
-----flutterby: this shows your kind heart and concern for your fellow human. - a wonderfully great quality to posess.
>
>> It was a very good thing when the University of Chicago disconnected from Babble. It was gratifying to know that they read and listened to our concerns.<<----flutterby: Oh? I did not know they did-- thank you for this info. (I can tend to get lost- out of the "loop" most times)
>
> My horse is too tired and too old and the windmill has gotten very rusty....so we won't be tiling anymore.<<----flutterby: while this breaks my heart- I believe it's very admirable of you to take care of you. like they say-- every beginning has an end..... you are off to a new chapter, perhaps....
>> My psychiatrist and three of his colleagues have been reading Babble for some time now. Lots of muttering and shaking of heads coming from their direction. The 2 men and 2 women concluded that "Babble is a very harmful site when it comes to the mental health of the vulnerable". The blocking system knocked them off their feet.<<---flutterby: it has been difficult for some of us here.... it's like once again being picked last in gym class.... but..... some struggle to "fit" in anywhere(story of my life...)-- even in a support forum *sigh*......
> I hope that we all find what we need in the future. I recommend grandchildren, dogs, cats, lots of books, a creek to wade in, coconut cream pie, music, gardening, homemade pizza, Dos Equs beer and "the most interesting man in the world".<<----flutterby: don't know if you'll read this--- but I wanted to say how I LOVE your recommendations! They are real life-- things that make life whole(IMO). My hope is that YOU will find what you need too and have a wonderful, peaceful- full of love and life- future.
> Ciao, Fayeroe<-----flutterby: Adios Amiga!!
Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2009, at 13:11:43
In reply to Re: I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane » fayeroe, posted by fleeting flutterby on September 5, 2009, at 11:46:33
Fayeroe you mentioned me the nag the answers too many threads poster. I'm truly flattered. I'm old too know the memory thing. Yes many of my professionals have said stay away but it's addicting. I look for who I consider my friends all and what's happening in their lives. Many I keep in touch with through e-mails who left cause they got better when they did. I will miss you. You a tough and smart woman and I respect you. Love and Hugs Phillipa
Posted by henrietta on September 5, 2009, at 20:29:49
In reply to I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by fayeroe on September 4, 2009, at 12:33:48
Soon come, Fayroe.
How similar have been our experiences here. Got here by looking up, in the library (because I didn't have a computer) Effexor. Wanted off, needed to know more about what I was putting into my body. Got a computer in , I think, 1999, who knows. I'm not good with dates. I know I was here in at least 2000.My earliest non Med Board experiences here were horrendous. The good doc made a lot of very nasty choices that I don't have the energy or desire to enumerate now. (Most importantly, he did nothing to protect participants from bullies who denied the very reality of anyone who voiced a contrary opinion, and in fact sat by and apparently enjoyed the spectacle of 10 or 12 people being accused of being one INSANE person---when he could simply have stepped in and said these folks are using different computers. I ASKED him to step up and state the facts. He declined.) Those choices formed my opinion of him, and though he seems to have grown a bit in the last 9 or ten years, it feels like expediency to me, and not real concern for people.
But that's neither here nor there.
I'm sick of waking up in the night, several times, worrying that I said something hurtful or harmful, that I'd phrased something in such a way that I said what I didn't mean, that even when I was trying to be kind and helpful I was harming people I cared about. (These of course are my own issues, and Internet Forum issues, not attributable to Bob's ineptitude or callousness.)
(Though I doubt Bob wakes up in the night worrying about how his words and actions have affected "Babblers".)I've repeatedly asked to be unregistered. The good doctor does not allow that.
Now I'm going to try the trick of registering with a password I cannot possibly remember. Trouble is, I have no idea what email address I used to register....I guess I'll work it out.
Best of everything to you, Fay. I hope to join you soon in blissful babble oblivion, and in Real Life LIFE.
Henrietta
Posted by henrietta on September 5, 2009, at 21:01:56
In reply to Re: I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane » fayeroe, posted by henrietta on September 5, 2009, at 20:29:49
It occurred to me that it would be a lot simpler to say f*ck you three times in a row and get blocked for a year. I tried it, and the magic asterisks appeared.
Ironic, yes?
Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2009, at 21:39:21
In reply to how do you turn off the asterisking stuff?, posted by henrietta on September 5, 2009, at 21:01:56
Oh that's too funny!!!!! Love Phillipa ps I know a guy that posted here his Mother did something to his computer so he could never get back on babble. He's a grown man he asked her to do it. And he can't get back on. I've heard lately of some who want to get back on and can't. Forget your password and for some reason new one won't work they said.
Posted by gobbledygook on September 5, 2009, at 22:23:46
In reply to I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by fayeroe on September 4, 2009, at 12:33:48
Dear wonderful Pat,
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye...
Of course, I don't want you to go, but I understand if you think it's time. Thank you for coming back to say goodbye.
I'm glad we're saying our goodbyes while I'm doing well, on a positive note. Since you've been "gone," I've been
working with two of the most amazing therapists in the world. I'm actually seeing real changes in my life for the better.
One is teaching me about trust, understanding, true caring, and love, and the other is the famed developer of a cutting edge
therapy for my stubborn b/w disorder. She is everything I hoped for and more. I thank God for my unbelievable luck.You are one-of-a-kind, a truly special woman...smart, wise, hilarious, kind...And I will always treasure our friendship and all
the laughs you have given me. Please take very good care of your hot self. And may "the most interesting man in the world"
soon spice up your life!Goodbye for now, dear Pat. I will miss you...very much.
xoxo
Ava
Here's to you, Princess Pat!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6G-kUHUqE
Posted by Dinah on September 6, 2009, at 14:10:29
In reply to how do you turn off the asterisking stuff?, posted by henrietta on September 5, 2009, at 21:01:56
Well, I don't want to do anything to help anyone leave Babble. But if this is what you really want to do, then I can tell you from past experience that you don't need to know your email address. In fact, sometimes I change the email address to a nonexistant one so that I can't easily change my password back. Once you set the password reset in motion, it's my experience that you won't be able to use your old password or your new one until you verify the new one. This effectively blocks me until I change my mind and ask Dr. Bob for help to come back.
Overall, that seems better than getting yourself blocked because it leaves open the possibility that if you need support or if you hear of a friend needing support, you can come back. But it stops impulsive posting if you truly wish to leave.
As far as unregistering, I think at this site all registration does is retain rights to your posting name so that others don't use the name Henrietta. Beyond that, it means no more than the meaning you give it. You can change your email address, you can change your password, and you can effectively keep yourself from posting and remove any email address that you might have used.
I of course hope that you don't decide to permanently leave Babble. But I respect your decision if you think it's the right one for you.
Posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:26:42
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff? » henrietta, posted by Dinah on September 6, 2009, at 14:10:29
I tried several months ago to reset my password according to directions. It says you will receive a confirmation something or other at your last valid email address, and then you can proceed. I never received the confirmationsomethingorother at any of my valid email addresses then, and when I tried today I didn't receive the confirmationwhatever either. I think the email address I used to register with is defunct. It is very old, and hasn't been used in a long time, apparently.
I appreciate that you'd never want to help someone leave babble. Neither, obviously, does bob. But what if I told you that for me babble is yet another self-injuring, self-destructive activity, like smoking, that I need help in controlling? Could you then see it in your good wise heart to help me leave babble? Just because you and many others find babble to be supportive and beneficial does not mean that babble is experienced by everyone in that way, and it is frankly not up to you or bob to decide what is in my best interests.
Posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:31:31
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff? » Dinah, posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:26:42
By the way, my experience in trying to reset my password is completely contrary to yours. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:53:09
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff?, posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:31:31
Dinah, I found your post condescending and offensive. Now, if I tell another straightforward truth about how I feel, and post a few more times in a row, can I please be blocked?
Posted by Dinah on September 6, 2009, at 20:04:17
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff?, posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:53:09
Not by me.
I did say that I respected your decision, whatever you decided...
The method worked for me. I'm sorry it didn't work for you.
Posted by Dinah on September 6, 2009, at 20:08:04
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff?, posted by henrietta on September 6, 2009, at 19:53:09
I stepped out of my comfort zone to try to be helpful. I'm sorry that my effort was not helpful to you. My intentions were good, and I'm sorry if you did not experience my post as I intended it.
Posted by henrietta on September 7, 2009, at 7:16:23
In reply to Re: how do you turn off the asterisking stuff? » henrietta, posted by Dinah on September 6, 2009, at 20:08:04
For what it's worth, I do believe that you didn't intend to be condescending. Thank you for your efforts.
Posted by Sigismund on September 7, 2009, at 15:37:36
In reply to I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by fayeroe on September 4, 2009, at 12:33:48
Oh geez, you're off. You are so kind. No chance of talking about Atticus Finch and cultural decline? It has, of course, been fun hanging out with you.
I think the blocking may have been more severe when there were so many people around. If that is so, it was shortsighted.
Posted by manic666 on October 29, 2009, at 6:38:37
In reply to Re: I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2009, at 13:11:43
philipa i dont get you this woman gave you a hard time every day.called you an put you down, now your wanting to mail her an, an you say you respect her. .you are one strange lady.
Posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2009, at 20:04:55
In reply to Re: I'm Leaving On a Jet Plane, posted by manic666 on October 29, 2009, at 6:38:37
Manic who don't get it? Phillipa
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Administration | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.