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Posted by sdb on December 31, 2008, at 4:18:41
does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
thanks
sdb
Posted by muffled on January 1, 2009, at 0:31:26
In reply to measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by sdb on December 31, 2008, at 4:18:41
reckon you'd have to do a survey I expect, else hows you gonna know?
Posted by fayeroe on January 1, 2009, at 11:13:47
In reply to measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by sdb on December 31, 2008, at 4:18:41
> does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
>
> thanks
>
> sdbIt might help you if we were allowed to put a poll in our posts. You would get some sort of idea of what is helping and what isn't. Or...whatever it is you want to learn. :-) Good luck, Pat
Posted by Phillipa on January 1, 2009, at 13:49:04
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit » sdb, posted by fayeroe on January 1, 2009, at 11:13:47
Great idea. Phillipa
Posted by sdb on January 1, 2009, at 15:25:39
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit » sdb, posted by fayeroe on January 1, 2009, at 11:13:47
> > does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > sdb
>
> It might help you if we were allowed to put a poll in our posts. You would get some sort of idea of what is helping and what isn't. Or...whatever it is you want to learn. :-) Good luck, Pat
>
>thanks for your input and interesting idea...
good luck to you in the South
warm regards
sdb
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 1, 2009, at 23:36:27
In reply to measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by sdb on December 31, 2008, at 4:18:41
> does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
The questionnaire that might be posted later:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20081003/msgs/864096.html
might yield some information along those lines. This was also one of the ideas we discussed pursuing ourselves a couple years ago:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/711394.html
Finally, one way people can measure how they themselves do over time is with the Babbleometer:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/ometer
Bob
Posted by sdb on January 2, 2009, at 11:26:18
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by Dr. Bob on January 1, 2009, at 23:36:27
> > does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
>
> The questionnaire that might be posted later:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20081003/msgs/864096.html
>
> might yield some information along those lines. This was also one of the ideas we discussed pursuing ourselves a couple years ago:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/711394.html
>
> Finally, one way people can measure how they themselves do over time is with the Babbleometer:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/ometer
>
> Bobthanks for the information a posteriori. I did not follow everything. It is still interesting to have ideas from preexisting people but from many new people too, relating to this subject.
warm regards
sdb
Posted by fayeroe on January 4, 2009, at 10:37:04
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by Dr. Bob on January 1, 2009, at 23:36:27
> > does somebody have any ideas how to measure at best a therapeutic benefit for people (if there is one) in an online group like this?
>
> The questionnaire that might be posted later:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20081003/msgs/864096.html
>
> might yield some information along those lines. This was also one of the ideas we discussed pursuing ourselves a couple years ago:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/711394.html
>
> Finally, one way people can measure how they themselves do over time is with the Babbleometer:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/ometer
>
> BobI am not certain about what sdb was looking for in his quest for measurement of a therapeutic benefit from online forums. I was talking about a poll that a poster would insert into a post and people could answer it..multiple choices and the answers would be anonymous.
1. Do you feel that having online mental health support has helped you?
A. Yes
B. Somewhat
C. Not at all.And on and on. Lots of possibilities there. I suspect that most know if they are being individually helped. If one is mulling over the pros and cons of a mental health forum, couldn't one be naturally curious about their fellow posters?
My take on polls versus questionaires and the babblemeter.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2009, at 1:48:11
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on January 4, 2009, at 10:37:04
> I was talking about a poll that a poster would insert into a post and people could answer it..multiple choices and the answers would be anonymous.
>
> 1. Do you feel that having online mental health support has helped you?
> A. Yes
> B. Somewhat
> C. Not at all.It's not right here, but posters are free to create polls at Psycho-Babble Open, one of our associated Yahoo groups. And in fact there's already one like the above there:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psycho-babble-open/surveys?id=1012846
Bob
Posted by fayeroe on January 5, 2009, at 10:44:20
In reply to Re: polls, posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2009, at 1:48:11
Posted by sdb on January 5, 2009, at 11:31:42
In reply to Re: polls, posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2009, at 1:48:11
> > I was talking about a poll that a poster would insert into a post and people could answer it..multiple choices and the answers would be anonymous.
> >
> > 1. Do you feel that having online mental health support has helped you?
> > A. Yes
> > B. Somewhat
> > C. Not at all.
>
> It's not right here, but posters are free to create polls at Psycho-Babble Open, one of our associated Yahoo groups. And in fact there's already one like the above there:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psycho-babble-open/surveys?id=1012846
>
> BobI think it is good that there's something open. Sorry, but I first did not find this.
Maybe it could make sense to add a link where it is detectable faster.
something like:
here you can make a poll if...: then link to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psycho-babble-openthis is for babble meetings...: then lik to http://....
where are the links to these yahoo groups?
psycho babble's ontogenesis reached a state like a database with a lot of medical information. This in the years of 'bioinformatics'.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2009, at 14:49:47
In reply to Re: polls, posted by sdb on January 5, 2009, at 11:31:42
> Maybe it could make sense to add a link where it is detectable faster.
Good idea, Psycho-Babble Tips is listed at:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/general.html
but I left out Psycho-Babble Open because I thought it was just being used to for its chat function (which was discontinued). I'll list it there, too.
> psycho babble's ontogenesis reached a state like a database with a lot of medical information. This in the years of 'bioinformatics'.
That's an interesting way to look at it!
Bob
Posted by sdb on January 8, 2009, at 15:13:46
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic benefit, posted by Dr. Bob on January 1, 2009, at 23:36:27
'Great idea. Phillipa
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/ometer
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/general.html
'babble open'
look, Phillipa. now you can use these tools (links mentioned above) and maybe there is a benefit when you're talking about this with your therapist.
warm regards
sdb
Posted by Phillipa on January 9, 2009, at 0:04:30
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic ben. }} Phillipa, posted by sdb on January 8, 2009, at 15:13:46
sdb no therapist again want to help pick one as can't afford interviewing anymore Charlotte Nc on google psychology today listing. Love Phillipa
Posted by sdb on January 9, 2009, at 13:12:49
In reply to Re: measurement of a therapeutic ben. }} Phillipa » sdb, posted by Phillipa on January 9, 2009, at 0:04:30
> sdb no therapist again want to help pick one as can't afford interviewing anymore Charlotte Nc on google psychology today listing. Love Phillipa
I am sorry for that.
There might be other persons than therapists. Sometimes somebody else can even be better than a therapist for people. But I know that it is difficult sometimes to find understandable folks in the place where you live just nearby.
love
sdb
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