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Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 7, 2007, at 23:41:18
This is just something to mull over as I think they both could be useful to this site. I have been on message boards where you can edit (but only in a short time frame) your posts. This could come in handy for those who have stated they have said things they regret. Granted they would not have a long time to edit but it could be useful
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Polls....I would like to see polls in here without comments just yes or no to get a feel on a new idea someone may have for the site..or Dr Bob may have. Sometimes people can feel as if they are being told they are wrong if you do not agree with them or that you dislike them. I have also seen some people state over and over the same points when saying them once would do thus they are trying to change minds not add something new to the idea. Maybe a poll after an idea has been kicked around for a while as long as only new points have been made by all not just the same one or two pros or cons
I HAVE been around here for years..this is being stated for those who think I am new....and I know we have talked about this before but I feel it's worth revisiting
Posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 0:21:54
In reply to Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 7, 2007, at 23:41:18
"Polls....I would like to see polls in here without comments just yes or no to get a feel on a new idea someone may have for the site..or Dr Bob may have. Sometimes people can feel as if they are being told they are wrong if you do not agree with them or that you dislike them. I have also seen some people state over and over the same points when saying them once would do thus they are trying to change minds not add something new to the idea. Maybe a poll after an idea has been kicked around for a while as long as only new points have been made by all not just the same one or two pros or cons"
Good points ! A majority of the people viewing these pages never post. A minority post and fewer than that post about admin issues. So a very few seem to speak for everyone. I think polls would be a good idea. They might be a way to see what the silent majority thinks. I notice Dr Bob often mentions hit counts and pages viewed to indicate the success and growth of this board. To continue growth the opinions of the majority need to be known. We all now well know where the vocal posters stand on many issues. How about the other 75% of posters ?
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 8:13:56
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 0:21:54
Dr. Bob at one time did do polls on the Yahoo site. If I recall correctly, the response was less than overwhelming, and perhaps he gave up on the idea based on that.
My position on edits has long been known.
Posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 9:11:25
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 8:13:56
> Dr. Bob at one time did do polls on the Yahoo site. If I recall correctly, the response was less than overwhelming, and perhaps he gave up on the idea based on that.
>The data on this site indicates it has hit its peak some time ago and is no longer getting the hits it used to. I think this is common as a large group get paired down to a small group of dedicated posters. The group starts to best suit
those who give input & the number of these people giving input is small relative to the total number of posters once using the site.I think the yahoo groups poll suffered as people had to have a login. That does not suit the majority of people coming here who never get an user/pass as they never post.
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 9:41:03
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 9:11:25
I remember the topic of Yahoo registration coming up at the time.
But I suspect that turnout still wouldn't be huge in terms of how many people post. And that those who post on Admin would be more likely to vote. And that it wouldn't be a truly representative sample.
I don't oppose it. It might be interesting. I just think that it wouldn't be terribly scientific.
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 9:42:06
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 9:11:25
Not to mention the fact that Dr. Bob doesn't strike me as someone to govern by polls. :)
Posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 14:27:30
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls » notfred, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 9:41:03
" I just think that it wouldn't be terribly scientific."
Hmmm, and how does the science that runs the board now work ?
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2007, at 14:39:23
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 14:27:30
I have no objection to polls.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 8, 2007, at 19:37:17
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 9:11:25
I would like to see the poll run off the Admin area and a memo on each forum to allow members who do not come here know they can vote and a poll is up. I know and I guess I should have stated this but I thought it was a given...that Dr Bob would not necessarily use the poll for anything more than the pulse of the members who DO vote. They would be able to vote within this area thus those who are registered only would be able to vote and they would already be signed in.
The reason I feel it would not be good to have too much in the way of posts on it ..is because recently I was at another site (I have seen this often anyhow) and someone had a poll per the owner of that site. Fights started because some would vote and then say why they said no....then the person who posted the poll would post back to them and it became a debate and justification issue. Some voters felt pressured and the results were messed up..I do not post there but I can see how a simple yes or no or even no opinion could have been useful. This is as always just from my experience and from my viewpoint. I think it would be interesting.
Posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 23:06:20
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 8, 2007, at 19:37:17
"They would be able to vote within this area thus those who are registered only would be able to vote and they would already be signed in."
The majority of people who visit these pages do not have a log in. Nor is one required to read posts.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 8, 2007, at 23:39:36
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 8, 2007, at 23:06:20
> "They would be able to vote within this area thus those who are registered only would be able to vote and they would already be signed in."
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> The majority of people who visit these pages do not have a log in. Nor is one required to read posts.
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>True...but keep in mind I am just kicking ideas around and if they just read and do not take part in the site then they would not vote anyhow. I am mostly intrested in what per cent of posters would be for or against something. I think that would be most useful. Say way back the 3 post rule..not that it would change anything....yet it could help...
I imagine there could be polls to see what would entice people to join and post and STAY in babble
I recall way back when I would be on for HOURS and could not keep up with the site or all the active posters.
Any other ideas on this ? I would love to hear them from anyone
I just think it would help us and maybe? Dr Bob to see how the majority would like things to be...again I know...it may not make a difference.
Posted by notfred on January 9, 2007, at 1:01:55
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 8, 2007, at 23:39:36
"and if they just read and do not take part in the site then they would not vote anyhow."
But they DO take a part in the site. They read it. This site give out a huge amount of info. They are the majority of the people who read here. Just because they do not things the way you do does not mean the should be excluded.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 9, 2007, at 17:58:13
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by notfred on January 9, 2007, at 1:01:55
> "and if they just read and do not take part in the site then they would not vote anyhow."
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> But they DO take a part in the site. They read it. This site give out a huge amount of info. They are the majority of the people who read here. Just because they do not things the way you do does not mean the should be excluded.
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>The fact remains if they JUST read and no not take part in the site as I stated then it would also come to reason they would not vote because they do not take part..This could not be exclusion because its their choice to post or sign in to vote..thus...take part.....Some, would not want to vote, maybe all maybe none....tis just one way to look at it.
I do not think I said I wanted anyone to think or feel exactly like me.
I said a lot more than the above...I am as I stated just KICKING IDEAS around and that's one of a few .....I would be intrested in knowing what you and others would like to see as far as the polls.
How would you set it up IF you were allowed to set it up?
Personally, I would have 2 sets of polls one for members who do more than read ...and one for anyone to get the pulse of the site. This would give me a broader picture and the results could be surprising.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 12, 2007, at 4:24:47
In reply to Re: Usefullness of edit and polls, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 8, 2007, at 19:37:17
> I have been on message boards where you can edit (but only in a short time frame) your posts. This could come in handy for those who have stated they have said things they regret. Granted they would not have a long time to edit but it could be useful
This also has come up before:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030404/msgs/224641.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050823/msgs/546521.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060622/msgs/662558.htmland is already on my to-do list. Sorry about not having more time to do things on it.
> The reason I feel it would not be good to have too much in the way of posts on it ..is because recently I was at another site ... and someone had a poll per the owner of that site. Fights started because some would vote and then say why they said no....then the person who posted the poll would post back to them and it became a debate and justification issue. Some voters felt pressured and the results were messed up..
Well, the idea here is not to have fights. And IMO the reasons people have are important...
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 15, 2007, at 21:02:01
In reply to Re: edit and polls, posted by Dr. Bob on January 12, 2007, at 4:24:47
> This also has come up before:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030404/msgs/224641.htmlI'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding edit to that thread. Here's a more recent link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061228/msgs/722715.html
Thanks,
Bob
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