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Posted by sdb on May 31, 2006, at 20:05:37
In reply to Re: please be respectful and sensitive » sdb » Declan, posted by Dr. Bob on May 31, 2006, at 9:56:18
I respect the view of other people and I try to be sensitive to the feelings of other individuals. Nobody is errorless. I am not and you are not.
How you are arguing here is very far away from reality and objectivity. As a doctor you should know that diminish physical and emotional pain is a priority and you should be aware that there are maybe different measurements of values for example if somebody lives in a isolated, closed vesica without any windows painted with pink walls and a big TV flat screen watching CNN or individuals living with absolutely nomore perspective in total
awareness of normal human extrem cruelty. Treatment resistent forever. There are innocent, tortured, harmed people from Abu Ghuraib and Guantanamo or children maybe walking somehow with the help of prosthesis of German and Italian doctors with one leg or no legs anymore because of mines and bombs in Afghanistan. Tell to these people that they should be sensitive to the feelings of G.W. Bush and some other people of this government. Do you walk with one leg, Bob? -Walking with one leg is pain. Personally I was not able to walk even with my both legs but I dont complain and I dont want any compassion (!) Because you feel that much sensitive please tell these people mentioned above and other tortured people on the entire world that they must be sensitive to George W. Bush's feelings and his supporters. Politic is a word. Has politics anything to do with civility? What should I tell a doctor with Iranian name living in the country where I come from wanting to visit a burial of a family member in the US but then captured at the airport, keep imprisoned in a single small chamber and then sent back at home with no excuse? At the same time I feel connected with US families who lost their young son or their daughter in these wars. Pain does not depend on countries flags. Do you understand what I try to point out? Without war there is no freedom. I dont believe what people want to believe. I believe what I see with my limited but intact afferent sense organs.greetings of civility
~sdb
Posted by Gabbi~G on June 1, 2006, at 15:22:38
In reply to Re: please be more smart and sensitive }} Bob, posted by sdb on May 31, 2006, at 16:08:12
>>>>How you are arguing here is very far away from reality and objectivity. As a doctor you should know that diminish physical and emotional pain is a priority and you should be aware that there are maybe different measurements of values for example if somebody lives in a isolated, closed vesica without any windows painted with pink walls and a big TV flat screen watching CNN or individuals living with absolutely nomore perspective in total
Yeah.. a very tired yeah..
Thanks for articulating that so effectively.
Posted by Jakeman on June 2, 2006, at 12:17:26
In reply to Re: please be respectful and sensitive » sdb » Declan, posted by Dr. Bob on May 31, 2006, at 9:56:18
>> Please respect the views of others (such as supporters of Bush) and be sensitive to their feelings.
>
What about the unsupporters of Pres. Bush. Do we not count?Jake
Posted by sdb on June 3, 2006, at 8:15:57
In reply to Re: please be more smart and sensitive }} Bob, posted by sdb on May 31, 2006, at 16:08:12
Please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people
Je vous en remercie.
~sdb
> I respect the view of other people and I try to be sensitive to the feelings of other individuals. Nobody is errorless. I am not and you are not.
>
> How you are arguing here is very far away from reality and objectivity. As a doctor you should know that diminish physical and emotional pain is a priority and you should be aware that there are maybe different measurements of values for example if somebody lives in a isolated, closed vesica without any windows painted with pink walls and a big TV flat screen watching CNN or individuals living with absolutely nomore perspective in total
> awareness of normal human extrem cruelty. Treatment resistent forever. There are innocent, tortured, harmed people from Abu Ghuraib and Guantanamo or children maybe walking somehow with the help of prosthesis of German and Italian doctors with one leg or no legs anymore because of mines and bombs in Afghanistan. Tell to these people that they should be sensitive to the feelings of G.W. Bush and some other people of this government. Do you walk with one leg, Bob? -Walking with one leg is pain. Personally I was not able to alk even with my both legs but I dont complain and I dont want any compassion (!) Because you feel that much sensitive please tell these people mentioned above and other tortured people on the entire world that they must be sensitive to George W. Bush's feelings and his supporters. Politic is a word. Has politics anything to do with civility? What should I tell a doctor with Iranian name living in the country where I come from wanting to visit a burial of a family member in the US but then captured at the airport, keep imprisoned in a single small chamber and then sent back at home with no excuse? At the same time I feel connected with US families who lost their young son or their daughter in these wars. Pain does not depend on countries flags. Do you understand what I try to point out? Without war there is no freedom. I dont believe what people want to believe. I believe what I see with my limited but intact afferent sense organs.
>
> greetings of civility
>
> ~sdb
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2006, at 1:59:35
In reply to Re: please be respectful and sensitive » Dr. Bob, posted by Jakeman on June 2, 2006, at 2:39:42
> How you are arguing here is very far away from reality and objectivity.
The primary goal here isn't reality and objectivity, but support.
> What should I tell a doctor with Iranian name living in the country where I come from wanting to visit a burial of a family member in the US but then captured at the airport, keep imprisoned in a single small chamber and then sent back at home with no excuse?
>
> sdbTell him that you're sad he wasn't able to visit the burial and angry about how he was treated and that you hope he'll be able to come and be treated civilly some later time?
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> What about the unsupporters of Pres. Bush. Do we not count?
>
> JakeYou count, but it's support, not unsupport, that's the focus here. Is there somebody else you do support?
Bob
Posted by Jakeman on June 9, 2006, at 2:34:52
In reply to Re: unsupporters, posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2006, at 1:59:35
>> You count, but it's support, not unsupport, that's the focus here. Is there somebody else you do support?
>
> BobHell yes there are many that I support. I support the 3 and 4 star generals who have admitted that this war is a mistake. I support the wounded and killed, god bless them. I supported President Bush when he admitted last week that some of his previous statements about the war were un-called for. I respect him for that. I support the verifible truth. I don't support lies. Lies always get us into trouble, whether it be personal or international. Thanks for responding to me.
~Jake
Posted by sdb on June 9, 2006, at 15:25:55
In reply to Re: unsupporters, posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2006, at 1:59:35
> > How you are arguing here is very far away from reality and objectivity.
>>> Unfortunately it is true. Sadly.
> The primary goal here isn't reality and objectivity, but support.
>>>A support without reality, objectivity and truth.
>>>A support you give in a politics forum?
>
> > What should I tell a doctor with Iranian name living in the country where I come from wanting to visit a burial of a family member in the US but then captured at the airport, keep imprisoned in a single small chamber and then sent back at home with no excuse?
> >
> > sdb
>
> Tell him that you're sad he wasn't able to visit the burial and angry about how he was treated and that you hope he'll be able to come and be
treated civilly some later time?>>> Thank you for a possible suggestion.
>treated civilly some later time?
>>>some later time? The relative is dead. Is there a reason to return some later time?
I dont take that personally. Actually I am chuckling more about your written acting behaviour and from what your intention is based from.
I dont want to be you more smart :-) I would like to be you just Dr. Bob.sdb
Posted by sdb on June 10, 2006, at 7:05:00
In reply to Re: please be more Bob }} Bob, posted by sdb on June 9, 2006, at 15:25:55
I will continue to give support in some occasions (it is summer and warm temperature finally!) of free time (what I think is positiv helping each other diminishing pain everywhere) in the pbabble forum in some specific cases paying attention not to help the wrong way but as much as possible the right way. Hopefully.
sdb
Posted by AuntieMel on June 10, 2006, at 10:17:41
In reply to Re: support, posted by sdb on June 10, 2006, at 7:05:00
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 12, 2006, at 4:59:36
In reply to Re: well said grin (nm) » sdb, posted by AuntieMel on June 10, 2006, at 10:17:41
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