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Posted by Deneb on July 10, 2005, at 20:15:05
In reply to Re: Understanding others » Deneb, posted by alexandra_k on July 10, 2005, at 19:26:12
You really DO understand me.
I DO need to go back to school. Everything you said makes a lot of sense.
Thanks for the insight...esp. about the manipulation stuff. Thank-you for understanding...or should I say thank-you for the information?
The world makes a little more sense to me now.
Deneb :-)
Posted by crushedout on July 10, 2005, at 23:10:13
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain » crushedout, posted by alexandra_k on July 10, 2005, at 9:32:41
> > what you said doesn't qualify as an I-statement.
>
> Sorry, which part?I cut and pasted it in my original post on this subject.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 10, 2005, at 23:59:13
In reply to Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain why., posted by crushedout on July 9, 2005, at 18:39:26
> > And I think... I think that disrespects them.Sounds like an 'I' statement to me...
Posted by gabbii on July 11, 2005, at 0:41:46
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain » alexandra_k, posted by crushedout on July 10, 2005, at 23:10:13
> > > what you said doesn't qualify as an I-statement.
> >Pax got blocked for a year for saying "I think that's irresponsible" to be an "I statement" He would have had say "I am upset by what you are doing" Or something similar. Preceding something with "I think" isn't enough.
Otherwise someone could say "I think you're stupid" and consider it an "I statement"
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 11, 2005, at 9:35:53
In reply to Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain why., posted by crushedout on July 9, 2005, at 18:39:26
> Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain
>
> > I think that disrespects them.No, I wouldn't consider that civil. It could have lead Deneb to feel accused or put down.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 11, 2005, at 9:37:38
In reply to Deneb, a few thoughts. . . » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on July 9, 2005, at 23:14:04
> I have read some of your other posts over the last few months, and from many of them, it is clear that you are an extremely intelligent, observant, sensitive person.
Thanks for supporting her, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups that don't have to do with administration to Psycho-Babble Social. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20050708/msgs/526109.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 11, 2005, at 10:30:47
In reply to Re: Do u want me to die? » justyourlaugh, posted by Deneb on July 10, 2005, at 18:13:27
> sorry deneb..we wouldnt want you upset by a post now would we..
>
> justyourlaugh> Do you want me to die? Cuz I will die if that is what will make it better for you.
>
> DenebPlease don't be sarcastic or suggest that others suggest that you harm yourself.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 18:47:18
In reply to Re: Please don't post to me » justyourlaugh, posted by Deneb on July 10, 2005, at 18:18:55
Please forgive me. I must have hurt you with my comment. I'm very sorry. I know you don't want me to hurt myself.
((((jyl))))
Deneb
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 18:50:19
In reply to Re: I rescind my DNP request to JYL, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 18:47:18
Really.
I never meant to hurt you and I see how it was inappropriate.
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 18:54:30
In reply to Re: please be civil » justyourlaugh » Deneb, posted by Dr. Bob on July 11, 2005, at 10:30:47
> Please don't be sarcastic or suggest that others suggest that you harm yourself.
I'm sorry. I know now it was a horrible thing to say. BTW, did you just make up this rule that we cannot suggest that others suggest that one harm oneself? (That sure was a confusing sentence!...there must be a better way of wording that!)
Have you ever had to use this rule before? Or did I force you to make it up? :-(
thanks for warning me
Deneb
Posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:01:33
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil?, posted by Dr. Bob on July 11, 2005, at 9:35:53
well, i really don't want to be responsible for getting anyone blocked but there seems to be a fairness issue here.if it's not civil, and alex has been blocked before, why isn't she being blocked now? especially given that other people have gotten blocked with far less warning.
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:03:10
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 18:54:30
I just realized something...if I hurt jyl by suggesting that she was suggesting I should hurt myself...does that mean I hurt Dr. Bob when I kept questioning whether he wanted me dead?
Does that mean I hurt my p-doc as well when I talk casually about death?
Does it really hurt people that much? I mean, it is me who will die, not you.
?
Deneb
Posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:08:06
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain why. » crushedout, posted by alexandra_k on July 10, 2005, at 23:59:13
Just because you begin a sentence with "I" doesn't make it an I-statement. As I said, read the FAQ.
Posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:09:35
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? If so, please explain » crushedout, posted by gabbii on July 11, 2005, at 0:41:46
whoops, gabbi, didn't realize you'd already made my point. better than i did, i might add. thanks.
Posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:13:08
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:03:10
if you die, you won't hurt anymore. only the people left will be hurt.
also, if you are threatening to kill yourself, that understandably causes people who care about you a great deal of anxiety and pain.
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:32:05
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:03:10
>I mean, it is me who will die, not you.
This should be:
...it is I who will die, not you.
right?
Deneb
Posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:42:50
In reply to Re: grammatical error?, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:32:05
Posted by Dinah on July 11, 2005, at 20:43:17
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:03:10
but yes, I feel pain. I imagine your pdoc feels pain.
I feel pain when people talk about suicide. I feel a lot more than mere pain when people imply that they would commit suicide or hurt themselves because of my actions or to make me happy.
I wish I could say I've never said that. I probably have. And no doubt caused my fair share of pain in my life.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 12, 2005, at 3:24:55
In reply to Re: I rescind my DNP request to JYL, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 18:47:18
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 12, 2005, at 3:34:24
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? » Dr. Bob, posted by crushedout on July 11, 2005, at 20:01:33
> if it's not civil, and alex has been blocked before, why isn't she being blocked now?
Mainly because I thought she and Deneb worked it out. I'm sorry if that doesn't seem fair to you.
Bob
Posted by AuntieMel on July 12, 2005, at 8:30:07
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2005, at 20:03:10
There are people here who have had close friends or relatives who have taken their own lives.
Merely bringing up the topic can open wounds for them. It is far worse when it is a surprise.
Putting *trigger* in the subject line helps by telling them not to look.
Posted by crushedout on July 12, 2005, at 9:30:57
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil?, posted by Dr. Bob on July 12, 2005, at 3:34:24
I wasn't aware that if you "worked things out" with someone, you don't get blocked. Deneb didn't even mind what alex said. So if I post something uncivil to Dinah, and it doesn't bother her, and then we talk about how it's all good between us, you won't PBC or block me?
Posted by gabbii on July 12, 2005, at 11:28:43
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? » Dr. Bob, posted by crushedout on July 12, 2005, at 9:30:57
Dr. Bob in a post to Toph, you said it really wasn't about whether or not posters worked things out between them, you'd P.B.C them anyway because it's a public board and you don't want other readers to have to be affected by it.
Posted by gabbii on July 12, 2005, at 14:16:29
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? » crushedout, posted by gabbii on July 12, 2005, at 11:28:43
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 13, 2005, at 0:55:50
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, is this civil? » crushedout, posted by gabbii on July 12, 2005, at 11:28:43
> Dr. Bob in a post to Toph, you said it really wasn't about whether or not posters worked things out between them, you'd P.B.C them anyway because it's a public board and you don't want other readers to have to be affected by it.
Right, that's the other side, and balancing the two can be hard. Do you have a link to that post? I'd be happy to take another look...
Bob
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