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Posted by so on June 11, 2005, at 1:48:08
Lou,
I just want to acknowledge your support for those who are concerned with fairness and consistency in the administration of this electronic forum. The perception of unfairness, actual unfairness and inconsistent administration of human communities often has a detrimental effect on the mental health of some people. An interest in fair administration can be very supportive of people who are sensitive to unfairness or to the perception of unfairness.
I also want to point out that some of the most effective voices for justice have at times been isolated and scorned by the majority of their community. Likewise, some of those who laid the foundations for modern science and modern medicine by their attention to consistency and accuracy that contravened prevailing community standards were often shunned even to the point of death, but their efforts continue to save and improve lives now centuries later. A troublesome rain today can nourish life for the future.
Posted by Sarah T. on June 11, 2005, at 2:54:44
In reply to so's recognition of Lou's adminstrative interest, posted by so on June 11, 2005, at 1:48:08
What makes you think LP's interests are administrative? Do you think they are administrative because they appear on the Administration Board?
By the way, I was wondering whether "so" stands for "significant other"?
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 11, 2005, at 6:50:03
In reply to Administrative?, posted by Sarah T. on June 11, 2005, at 2:54:44
> What makes you think LP's interests are administrative? Do you think they are administrative because they appear on the Administration Board?
>
> By the way, I was wondering whether "so" stands for "significant other"?
Dr. Hsiung,
I am requesting that you write a determinationas to the acceptability or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum for the following.
The poster above writes,[...What makes you think that LP's interests are administrative?...]
If the "LP" is referring to me, and I invite anyone to show that it is not, then I feel accused and put down when I read that statement. In your opinion, Dr. Hsiung, does the statement in question have the potential to arrouse ill-will toward me here?
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 11, 2005, at 7:41:00
In reply to so's recognition of Lou's adminstrative interest, posted by so on June 11, 2005, at 1:48:08
> Lou,
>
> I just want to acknowledge your support for those who are concerned with fairness and consistency in the administration of this electronic forum. The perception of unfairness, actual unfairness and inconsistent administration of human communities often has a detrimental effect on the mental health of some people. An interest in fair administration can be very supportive of people who are sensitive to unfairness or to the perception of unfairness.
>
> I also want to point out that some of the most effective voices for justice have at times been isolated and scorned by the majority of their community. Likewise, some of those who laid the foundations for modern science and modern medicine by their attention to consistency and accuracy that contravened prevailing community standards were often shunned even to the point of death, but their efforts continue to save and improve lives now centuries later. A troublesome rain today can nourish life for the future.So,
Thank you for your concern to post what you percieve about my requests to the administration for a determinaion of acceptability or not.
Lou
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2005, at 12:22:55
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-arousillwll? » Sarah T., posted by Lou Pilder on June 11, 2005, at 6:50:03
> I am requesting that you write a determinationas to the acceptability or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum for the following.
I think it's acceptable.
Bob
Posted by so on June 11, 2005, at 16:06:05
In reply to Administrative?, posted by Sarah T. on June 11, 2005, at 2:54:44
> What makes you think LP's interests are administrative?
I think they are administrative because they address administrative concerns.
>Do you think they are administrative because they appear on the Administration Board?
I think if they were posted to any other board in this forum they would be redirected to the administrative board. That tends to reinforce my opinion, based on the content of the posts, that they are administrative in nature because I have observed the administrator classifying such concerns as administrative.
Are you suggesting by posing the question that Lou's concerns might be something other than what he represents them to be?
If not, I don't understand the question, which seems to ask why I take his posts at face value.
But if so, can you expose what you you think his posts might be, other than administrative, without contravening the guidelines for writing to this forum?
Do you think that asking why a person takes another's writing at face value could lead the writer in question to believe someone has raised the possibility that they are only pretending their writen concerns are what they represent them to be?
And, if a person thought they had been encouraged to feel put down by a question about the face value of their concern, do you think that person would be allowed to say, in the same phraseology others have used on this page, "I was offended"? Or...
Do you think it is possible that one person can write "I was offended" and not be sanctioned, while others might write "I was offended" and would be called uncivil by the psychiatrist who administers this board?
Posted by jay on June 12, 2005, at 12:20:46
In reply to so's recognition of Lou's adminstrative interest, posted by so on June 11, 2005, at 1:48:08
> Lou,
>
> I just want to acknowledge your support for those who are concerned with fairness and consistency in the administration of this electronic forum. The perception of unfairness, actual unfairness and inconsistent administration of human communities often has a detrimental effect on the mental health of some people. An interest in fair administration can be very supportive of people who are sensitive to unfairness or to the perception of unfairness.
>
> I also want to point out that some of the most effective voices for justice have at times been isolated and scorned by the majority of their community. Likewise, some of those who laid the foundations for modern science and modern medicine by their attention to consistency and accuracy that contravened prevailing community standards were often shunned even to the point of death, but their efforts continue to save and improve lives now centuries later. A troublesome rain today can nourish life for the future.
>I feel deeply offended and put down that it is implied if I do not take the poster's (so) viewpoint, that I promote "unfairness" and any/all of my posts are "troublesome".
Thanks,
Jay
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 12, 2005, at 12:51:22
In reply to Dr. Bob. please read..accusations, posted by jay on June 12, 2005, at 12:20:46
> > Lou,
> >
> > I just want to acknowledge your support for those who are concerned with fairness and consistency in the administration of this electronic forum. The perception of unfairness, actual unfairness and inconsistent administration of human communities often has a detrimental effect on the mental health of some people. An interest in fair administration can be very supportive of people who are sensitive to unfairness or to the perception of unfairness.
> >
> > I also want to point out that some of the most effective voices for justice have at times been isolated and scorned by the majority of their community. Likewise, some of those who laid the foundations for modern science and modern medicine by their attention to consistency and accuracy that contravened prevailing community standards were often shunned even to the point of death, but their efforts continue to save and improve lives now centuries later. A troublesome rain today can nourish life for the future.
> >
>
> I feel deeply offended and put down that it is implied if I do not take the poster's (so) viewpoint, that I promote "unfairness" and any/all of my posts are "troublesome".
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
Friends,
I am requesting that before you contribute to this thread that writes about "so"'s writing, that you consider the following.
A. Is there a statement that implies that "so" writes that "jay" or anyone else, that if they do not take the viewpoint of "so", that they "promote unfairness"?
B. Does not "so"'s post write,[...Lou, I want to acknowlege your support for those {who are concerned with fairness and consistancy in the administration of this...forum} and, {an interest in fair administration can be very supportive of people that are sensitive to unfairness}...]?
C. and does not "so"'s statement in "B" imply that my posts are for support of {those that are concerned with fairness and consistancy...]?
D. Could there be members of this forum that are not concerned with fairness and consistantcy?
E. If there are, then is it not that my posts could have the potential to be {not for them}?
F. But did "so" ever say or imply that the members of this mental-health community that are not concerned about fairness and consistancy in the administration of the site, that those members "promote unfairness"? If so, could anyone post the URL and the statement that says that?
Lou
>
Posted by so on June 12, 2005, at 14:19:21
In reply to Dr. Bob. please read..accusations, posted by jay on June 12, 2005, at 12:20:46
To address circumstances that can have a detrimantal effect on mental health in no way alleges that any particular person is promulgating such conditions. It is unclear to me what accusations are the topic of the post so titled.
This is the end of the thread.
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