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Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 16, 2005, at 22:19:19
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Threat » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Mark H. on February 16, 2005, at 21:42:34
> Hi Gabbi,
>
> Thank you for your thoughtful response. It's good to use hypotheticals to help communicate here. I certainly see your point of view.
>Thanks, I really do think, if it were a female recipient, in a similar case, after an apology especially, my inner reaction would be "For heavens sake.. chill out" but I may not post that exactly : )
> I've tried to deal with certain posters through the use of humor and also with compassion and directness, and in most cases I've had no luck with either. You may have had similar experiences, perhaps even with the same poster(s).
Yeah, that's where the whiskey comes in..
(kidding)
> I'm sorry for the turmoil and appreciate your taking the time to offer me additional information. It makes much more sense now.
>
Thanks for listening Mark.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 9:55:07
In reply to What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Threat, posted by Mark H. on February 16, 2005, at 17:23:41
Mark - actually I've been (I think) supportive of both. Mostly by babblemail and email.
Forget gender - what we actually have here are two human beings that, agree with the reasons or not, are hurting. As fellow babblers I feel we should extend support to both and not take sides.
Gabbi and Rod - love to you both.
Posted by Mark H. on February 17, 2005, at 13:01:05
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th » Mark H., posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 9:55:07
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 13:46:43
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th » Mark H., posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 9:55:07
As fellow babblers I feel we should extend support to both and not take sides.
>That's the ideal vision you know, but there should be I believe sometimes be consequences for actions. Side-taking is not always a bad word(S) Some actions are not okay. Lying is not okay, harassment is not okay, threats are not okay.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 15:08:50
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th » AuntieMel, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 13:46:43
You are right, of course. None of those things are ok, and there should be consequences for actions.
It's just that without having privy to the contents of the emails (except one line in one email) I don't think it would be fair or right of me (or any other babblers for that matter) to make a judgement.
I've always hated it when people make judgements about me without knowing all the facts and I'd hate to be guilty of the same thing.
I feel I should leave the judging to Dr. Bob.
Meanwhile you have my support. Truly.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 15:17:17
In reply to Re: I agree - mostly. » Gabbi-x-2, posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 15:08:50
> I've always hated it when people make judgements about me without knowing all the facts and I'd hate to be guilty of the same thing.
>
> I feel I should leave the judging to Dr. Bob.Actually Dr. Bob doesn't deal with e-mail issues so I have had to go elswhere.
>
> Meanwhile you have my support. Truly.I know, and I'm sorry for getting all fired up.
I've been through something like this before
and I just dont'like it much
Your support means a lot to me
Thank you
Posted by Bobby on February 17, 2005, at 15:51:17
In reply to Re: I agree - mostly. » AuntieMel, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 15:17:17
Just please don't kill me :)
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 16:22:29
In reply to I support you too » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Bobby on February 17, 2005, at 15:51:17
> Just please don't kill me :)
*snort*
You only said that cause you were scared right?
Thanks Bobby, it means extra extra support because I know you don't like to make the trek over to the admin board.
Thank you
Posted by MCK on February 17, 2005, at 19:23:38
In reply to Re: I support you too » Bobby, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 16:22:29
I'm fed up with this. I've been the unwanted recipient of "Dr." Rod's e-mail barrages for a year, I'd heard about him before that. The first e-mail was at my behest. Gabbi was never a threat to anything but his delusions of grandeur. She pushed his buttons. Rod only knows how to patronize women, or control them. Gabbi's disinterest and her characteristic bluntness infuriated him. He would rant and rave about her. "One of these days" he'd say "She'll get what's coming to her" "She'll learn" Of course that's not a direct quote, Rod speak is unique, when he's trying to impress, but those words were in there. When I began to argue with him, he turned on me as well using words that would make a sailor blush. He's also called himself "King Rod."
Rod has a long history of e-mail abuse and harrassment, he knows all the tricks. He's extremely ill, far beyond the reaches of this board, and someone to avoid at all costs, until he can acknowledge his for himself, and I don't think that's likely, many have tried. He's a self-centred, sociopath, with no feelings of remorse for anything, though he can copy the empathy of others he does not have those feelings himself. He's potentially dangerous. His little freak out about Gabbi was just the opportunity he'd been looking for.
Posted by henrietta on February 17, 2005, at 19:30:40
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th » AuntieMel, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 13:46:43
To Gabbi : In the interests of being direct, I believe that until the facts are in (and they apparently never will be in in this case), for most of us not taking sides is the honorable thing to do. I won't take your "side "just because you tell me to
(especially since the other "side" has been blocked). (And I keep wondering what consequences
the unnamed person who forwarded your email to Rod has had to face.) It does seem to me that since so much of this has been conducted off-board, behind the scenes, it may be somewhat unreasonable to insist that we choose "sides" (your side), and to imply that somehow there is only one right side to choose. It feels to me that you are saying anyone who supports both you and Rod is ... what? Well, whatever it is, it don't sound good. I maintain my support for both of you , I am sorry that you both appear to be in pain, and I refuse to believe that my choice to support you both is somehow ....not right?
Oh, yeah. That was direct. (Sarcasm, but self-directed. Do we get penalized for self-directed sarcasm?)
Posted by henrietta on February 17, 2005, at 19:40:14
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th, posted by henrietta on February 17, 2005, at 19:30:40
I'm replying to my own post. I wrote mine before MCK's appeared. I don't know what to believe or whom to trust. Forget I said anything.
Good will to all who deserve it.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 17, 2005, at 20:29:45
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Th » henrietta, posted by henrietta on February 17, 2005, at 19:40:14
Henrietta, I apologized for that reply to Auntie Mel, and agreed with her that without knowing both sides, nothing more could be expected.
Auntie Mel:
I've always hated it when people make judgements about me without knowing all the facts and I'd hate to be guilty of the same thingMe:I know, and I'm sorry for getting all fired up.
I've been through something like this before
and I just dont'like it much
Your support means a lot to me
Thank youOkay?
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 21:39:52
In reply to Rod is desperate for attention, posted by MCK on February 17, 2005, at 19:23:38
> fear was never the issue here.
>
> Gabbi-x-2> Just please don't kill me :)
>
> Bobby> Rod is desperate for attention
>
> MCKPlease don't jump to conclusions about others, joke about death, or post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 21:46:55
In reply to Re: What Happened? Gender and the Perception of Threat » Mark H., posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 16, 2005, at 18:25:29
> You don't have even close to the entire picture. xxx was not the recipient
As far as I can tell, xxx was in fact the recipient. Though it may not have been intended for him, intent is always more complicated...
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 17, 2005, at 21:49:19
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Gabbi-x-2 » Bobby » MCK, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 21:39:52
A block for Bobby? Without a preliminary PBC? Does the punishment fit the crime here?
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 22:57:52
In reply to What???????, posted by Dinah on February 17, 2005, at 21:49:19
> A block for Bobby? Without a preliminary PBC?
Here's one:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/406305.html
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 17, 2005, at 23:05:29
In reply to Re: preliminary PBC, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 22:57:52
I have long ago given up trying to protest blocks. I know I have no real impact.
But I do want to give you my support, and that was the real point of my prior post.
((((Bobby))))
I think you're a pretty cool guy. And those you befriend are very lucky.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 9:00:46
In reply to Re: preliminary PBC, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 22:57:52
I never thought a four month old pbc on a different thread and for different thing (accusation vs joke of death) would count.
Does this mean the pbc I got for something against the poster talking lawsuits will count next year?
Posted by Jai Narayan on February 18, 2005, at 9:09:50
In reply to Re: preliminary PBC - does that count? » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 9:00:46
Old PBC's applying to new topics?
Is this rule tucked in somewhere I haven't seen?
it sends a chill thorugh me, so must we keep a list of our PBC's?
I have lost track of mine.
yeks!
Ja*
Posted by snoozin on February 18, 2005, at 11:13:59
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Gabbi-x-2 » Bobby » MCK, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 21:39:52
Draconian --
dra·co·ni·an adj.
Exceedingly harsh; very severe: a draconian legal code; draconian budget cuts.
[After Draco]
--------------------------------------------------Draco --
Dra·co
Seventh century B.C. Athenian politician who codified the laws of Athens (c. 621). Lauded for its impartiality, his code was unpopular for its severity.
Posted by Jai Narayan on February 18, 2005, at 15:09:38
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Gabbi-x-2 » Bobby » MCK, posted by Dr. Bob on February 17, 2005, at 21:39:52
Gabbix, I am so sorry you are blocked.
if:
1. you are reading this....xoxoxox
2. I searched for your email...can't find it!!!:(
3. i had to put 3 in because you can't use numbers if it's only 2thinking of you dear heart.
Ja*
Posted by alexandra_k on February 18, 2005, at 15:45:29
In reply to Re: blocked for *w*e*e*k* GABBIX....:(, posted by Jai Narayan on February 18, 2005, at 15:09:38
Yeah Gabbi, I'm going to miss you :-(
I am sorry, hon.
Posted by gardenergirl on February 19, 2005, at 8:14:09
In reply to Rod is desperate for attention, posted by MCK on February 17, 2005, at 19:23:38
I apologize for not posting this before you were blocked, but I just wanted to post that my own experience of personal communication with Rod off the board is not consistent with yours.
fwiw
gg
Posted by Jai Narayan on February 19, 2005, at 16:57:25
In reply to Rod is desperate for attention, posted by MCK on February 17, 2005, at 19:23:38
Okay that freaks me out.
I love my Gabbi.....
what can we do?I want to protect her immediately
how can this happen.I am so glad your were completely honest MCK.
You have a lot of guts and integrity.please keep us posted.
Ja*
Posted by alexandra_k on February 19, 2005, at 19:06:37
In reply to Re: Rod is desperate for attention, posted by Jai Narayan on February 19, 2005, at 16:57:25
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