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Posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 13:29:33
In reply to You respect my views and I will respect yours. » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:25:44
I am not one that believes in the antichrist. I, too, think of it as fiction.
But I do respect other's rights to believe otherwise.
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
In reply to You respect my views and I will respect yours. » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:25:44
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
> >
> > It has been explained that to some the antichrist is as real as you or me. Please respect their viewpoint.
> >
> >
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> It's a TWO way street. You respect my views and I will respect yours.
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> Do you think that it's fair for you & your friends to be forcing your views & opinions down my neck & when it's my turn you all cry foul!?
>
Ironically Kenny no one is forcing their beliefs down your throat, neither Nikki nor Auntie Mel
or I believe the Anti-Christ is real, that does not mean that Angel Girls pain is not real, and that's the point here. Many problems are the caused by the fact that people minimize the pain of others who don't share their beliefs. I repeat, it's not religious belief that is the issue here, it is that someone was hurt by something that was said, and it's not up to you to decide whether or not her feelings are worthy.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:11
In reply to Re: You respect my views and I will respect yours. » Kenny Koala, posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
OK I am one who believes in the Anti-Christ ...MILLIONS do.,...I also believe that there were/are Nazi's and that there were death camps....but in case some of you who do NOT believe in the A/C ...didn't know a couple of years ago....(and it is still a big belief.and sadly growing)...some say there NEVER were Nazis *or death camps*...and wanted to suppress all the as they said *Propaganda on it*....Moral of story....believe what you believe in and allow others the same respect. On PB these issues cannot be debated without a PBC that is why one must say..I respect your view and move on. ...In real life the huge groups that said these things on the Nazis...GOT A GOOD CHEWING OUT ...
A blind man who has no hands believes in a smile..does it not exist???....I am not going to say more on this topic....but I hope you all move on....
Posted by pegasus on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:36
In reply to Disingenuous. » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
Kenny,
Just so you know, Dr. Bob will eventually block you if you post to a babbler who has asked you not to post to him/her. It's one of the rules of the forum. Of course, you can also ask anyone not to post to you, and Dr. Bob will enforce that as well (as soon as he notices it).
Another rule is that being provoked is not considered by Dr. Bob to be an excuse for being non-civil. Dr. Bob will eventually block you for that as well. What he'd prefer is if we don't respond in kind when we are provoked. It's sometimes really hard, but that's the way we're supposed to do it.
pegasus
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 1:22:29
In reply to This is totally unfair! » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:07:33
Kenny,
You've been attacked for no reason. I can't say any more.
You've been attacked for no reason. Let me say more -
Your accuser attributed quotes to you that weren't your's.
Your accuser suggested you were "afraid" or "nervous" if you didn't respond to her queries. You did, but that didn't stop her.
Add to that a gang tackle and pile on by the friends.
You didn't take the bait and I applaud you.
verne
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:35:30
In reply to Sorry You were Ambushed » Kenny Koala, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 1:22:29
> Kenny,
>
> You've been attacked for no reason. I can't say any more.
>
> You've been attacked for no reason. Let me say more -
>
> Your accuser attributed quotes to you that weren't your's.
>
> Your accuser suggested you were "afraid" or "nervous" if you didn't respond to her queries. You did, but that didn't stop her.
>
> Add to that a gang tackle and pile on by the friends.
>
> You didn't take the bait and I applaud you.
>
> verne
>
Many thanks for the lifeline verne! :)
I am feeling pretty lonely at the moment. :(
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:45:02
In reply to Babble rules » Kenny Koala, posted by pegasus on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:36
> Kenny,
>
> Just so you know, Dr. Bob will eventually block you if you post to a babbler who has asked you not to post to him/her. It's one of the rules of the forum. Of course, you can also ask anyone not to post to you, and Dr. Bob will enforce that as well (as soon as he notices it).
>
> Another rule is that being provoked is not considered by Dr. Bob to be an excuse for being non-civil. Dr. Bob will eventually block you for that as well. What he'd prefer is if we don't respond in kind when we are provoked. It's sometimes really hard, but that's the way we're supposed to do it.
>
> pegasus
Thank you pegasus, I did not know that rule. She begged me to talk to her, then when I did, she told me to stop posting to her! I was fairly puzzled by it at the time, but it makes sense now that I know her motives. :(
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:05:30
In reply to Re: Correcting an assumption » Kenny Koala, posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 13:29:33
> I am not one that believes in the antichrist. I, too, think of it as fiction.
>
> But I do respect other's rights to believe otherwise.
I am Sorry I posted that to you, It was wrong of me to do that.
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:21:43
In reply to Re: You respect my views and I will respect yours. » Kenny Koala, posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
> it's not up to you to decide whether or not her feelings are worthy.
That's not the issue here. The issue is if Antichrist is or isn't a bad word, is it not?
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:26:05
In reply to Beliefs...., posted by Fallen4MyT on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:11
Posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
In reply to Gang Tackled is a good description. » verne, posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:35:30
I think, what got everyones backs up here, was your post telling Angel Girl that she had no right to post to you, because you had replied to me. I know I found that quite rude, and I doubt that I would have replied with hostility if you hadn't said that to her.
Nikki
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
If you look back, you will see that Kenny's only mistake was including the previous quote in his answer. Yet the response to his post has bordered on the Hunt for Frankenstein or the Salem Witch Trials.
The old guard rallies around their bubby without even reading the posts. Fiction becomes fact and the hysteria increases.
These "passive agressive" mob "pile ons" sicken me. This site seems to encourage this in spite of the civility guidelines.
good luck and all that.
verne
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:45:33
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
Nikki,
Please examine Kenny's first response to Angel Girl's query. It wasn't rude at all. How is telling her he was responding to you, "rude"? He was trying to communicate.
verne
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 4:13:08
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
> your post telling Angel Girl that she had no right to post to you
Please, Let us not bend the truth. Nowhere did I say 'she has no right to post to me' That is a fiction.
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 4:25:27
In reply to He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
> If you look back, you will see that Kenny's only mistake was including the previous quote in his answer. Yet the response to his post has bordered on the Hunt for Frankenstein or the Salem Witch Trials.
>
> The old guard rallies around their bubby without even reading the posts. Fiction becomes fact and the hysteria increases.
>
> These "passive agressive" mob "pile ons" sicken me. This site seems to encourage this in spite of the civility guidelines.
>
> good luck and all that.
>
> verneThanks a bunch verne. :)
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 28, 2005, at 4:49:59
In reply to This is totally unfair! » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:07:33
> I am not the Antichrist
> Please stop treating me as one.> let's go to the med board & talk about your medications.
> you don't mean it
> you harass me
> Not talking to me anymore is probably the nicest thing you will ever do for me.> They attacked me first & showed no regard for my feelings.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, jump to conclusions about others, or be sarcastic. I've asked you to be supportive, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
Sharing something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 28, 2005, at 4:57:45
In reply to He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
> You've been attacked for no reason.
> the response to his post has bordered on the Hunt for Frankenstein or the Salem Witch Trials.
>
> The old guard rallies around their bubby without even reading the posts. Fiction becomes fact and the hysteria increases.Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, exaggerate or overgeneralize, or jump to conclusions about others.
The last time you were blocked it was for 1 week, so this time it's for 3.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 28, 2005, at 4:59:23
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
> I found that quite rude
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by AuntieMel on January 28, 2005, at 8:29:10
In reply to Sorry » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:05:30
and I'm sorry about the block. That wasn't my intention - merely to try to tone things down so there wouldn't be any blocks.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 28, 2005, at 15:10:53
In reply to Can we keep this in the Faith board please. (nm) » Fallen4MyT, posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:26:05
My post was exactly where it belonged on the subject of civil rules WHICH would be posted on Admin and on allowing another their belief....sorry you were blocked I was trying to show you how not to be.
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 28, 2005, at 15:32:00
In reply to That's not the issue here. » Gabbix2, posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:21:43
> > it's not up to you to decide whether or not her feelings are worthy.
>
> That's not the issue here. The issue is if Antichrist is or isn't a bad word, is it not?
>
> Not quite so black and white, first of all what is a *bad* word is rather subjective, and I'm not one to arbitrarily adopt someone else's idea of what words are hurtful or bad, I like to do thinking on my own. In this case, Angel Girl was hurt by having a word by her name, a word which according to her system of belief carries a lot of power. It would hurt no one to have the word removed, and would have helped her. That's my point.
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 28, 2005, at 15:45:32
In reply to He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
> If you look back, you will see that Kenny's only mistake was including the previous quote in his answer. Yet the response to his post has bordered on the Hunt for Frankenstein or the Salem Witch Trials.
Yes he did, that was clear to me too, believe it or not, it wasn't rocket science, in adding to the quote he made his *own* comparison, between Nazis and the Antichrist which along with his subsequent posts inferred that Angel Girl had no reason to ask for the subject heading to be deleted. I read all the posts. I came to a different conclusion than you did, it's that simple.
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 29, 2005, at 0:07:46
In reply to Re: He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote » verne, posted by Gabbix2 on January 28, 2005, at 15:45:32
> which along with his subsequent posts inferred that Angel Girl had no reason to ask for the subject heading to be deleted.
That should be
..from which, along with his other posts *I* inferred that he believed Angel Girl had no reason to ask for the subject heading to be deleted.
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 29, 2005, at 3:53:41
In reply to He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
I'm ganging up with my buddies huh? *lol*
Well, I've never conversed with Angel Girl before this, Gabbix2 a few times maybe, but I don't really know her, and AuntieMel I barely know too.. I only really know those on 2000 these days.. But if you want to think I was ganging up with my buddies, thats your perogative.
It was also Kenny's perogative to find nothing wrong with the word Antichrist.. It was also mine to challenge some of is words.
I tink its quite clear here most of the time that I don't "follow" anyones lead here. I think I have gone against the "ideas" of most people here at one time or another, or agreed with people when they would least expect it.
I say what *I* think, not anyone else.
Sorry
Nikki
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 29, 2005, at 18:47:58
In reply to Re: He Had Merely Included the Prior Quote » verne, posted by NikkiT2 on January 29, 2005, at 3:53:41
> I'm ganging up with my buddies huh? *lol*
That *was* funny!
I posted to Angel girl probably 3x before this, about two years ago.
I can't remember if I've even posted to Auntie Mel, though I've always liked her posts. I just got to know her really because of this. I've alienated people because I've gone against the grain. Being in the minority doesn't automatically make one a victim.>But if you want to think I was ganging up with my buddies, thats your perogative.
Well I guess that's true, but it's as easy to look at the board before making assumptions as it is to "read all the posts."
>
> Well, I've never conversed with Angel Girl before this, Gabbix2 a few times maybe, but I don't really know her, and AuntieMel I barely know too.. I only really know those on 2000 these days.. >
> It was also Kenny's perogative to find nothing wrong with the word Antichrist.. It was also mine to challenge some of is words.
>
> I tink its quite clear here most of the time that I don't "follow" anyones lead here. I think I have gone against the "ideas" of most people here at one time or another, or agreed with people when they would least expect it.
>
> I say what *I* think, not anyone else.
>
> Sorry
>
> Nikki
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