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Posted by alexandra_k on October 13, 2004, at 20:12:48
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
Okay. Because your post was so very long and I have no earthly idea who you are as I have never seen you post before I have to admit I skimmed it. The following struck me:
>Daily labeling people as "uncivil" is nothing more than offering a diagnoses of anti-social personality disorder without conducting any prerequisite tests other than a measure against the physicians personal preferences for conduct.
That was the paragraph that really stood out in my mind as indicating that your credibility is questionable.
Diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder must be made on the basis of DSM (or ICD) criteria, and an account of the subjects history must be taken. You seem to see this, but you then go on to accuse Dr. Bob of conflating incivility with anti-social personality disorder. To the best of my knowledge Dr. Bob has never attempted to diagnose anyone from Babble, and he would not do this. If you cannot provide evidence of his doing this then you should see that conflating incivility with anti-social personality disorder is more accurately reflective of a state of your mind than of anything that goes on on these boards. You should also be very careful making unsupported allegations which could result in your being libel.
I am used to reading technical works, but I have to say that I found your post to be confusing and full of pseudo-legal jargon which doesn't help people understand what you are saying.
Have you even read what Dr. Bob has to say about what his duties and responsibilities are as a Dr. who is moderating this site?
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2002/08/05/prca0805.htm#1
I don't really understand what your problem is, but your 'household' doesn't seem to want to participate in Babble in the sense of participating in the mutual support and education that benefits so many from this site. You seem more intent on making accusations.
It is my personal opinion that as you do not wish to participate in the support and education that is offered, perhaps you should find a site that is more suited to your style of communication, and perhaps one that is more in synch with your accusatory manner.
Perhaps aspects of the above are uncivil, and I apologise for that. I am just concerned about your breeding an atmosphere of hostility and accusation when there is little substance to your claims.
Yours respectfully,
ak9
Posted by Ilene on October 13, 2004, at 20:55:10
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
There's a world of difference between feeling dissed and shutting down a site. I don't think we have anything to worry about from Mary Bowers, whoever she may be.
Posted by verne on October 13, 2004, at 20:59:25
In reply to Re: A physician's moral indifference to peer opini, posted by Cass on October 13, 2004, at 18:22:45
I don't have much to add to all these excellent posts.
But about the idea of working alone to avoid "peer review" or hide something from one's peers - I can think of many valid reasons to work alone that have nothing to do with my peers.
Besides didn't you know? Dr. Bob has no peers.
verne
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on October 14, 2004, at 1:39:03
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
Posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 9:37:18
In reply to I don't believe this. It's a test. (nm), posted by Shadowplayers721 on October 14, 2004, at 1:39:03
Wrestling in underpants?
Gosh , shocking.
Have you been unfaithful?
Wrestling's ok but leave your pants on ..I demand !Ok now delete my post
Posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 9:40:36
In reply to mary..., posted by justyourlaugh on October 13, 2004, at 17:22:38
I've had no beers but my little span can't cope I'm dense..I just got the wrestling bit
The point is.......?
Posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 9:48:21
In reply to Cass excellent response...., posted by Jai Narayan on October 13, 2004, at 18:53:40
> Why does the name Mary Bowers ring a bell?
Swapping the letters around *may* reveal the truth.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 14, 2004, at 9:53:41
In reply to Re: Cass excellent response.... » Jai Narayan, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 9:48:21
And yes I do know who this person is. 50 lashes with a wet noodle.
For getting poor partlycloudy so upset she posted silly things on the other boards in alarm.
Posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
In reply to This is a poor idea of a game, posted by partlycloudy on October 14, 2004, at 9:53:41
It ain't me partly...I play no games like this just tease and make light.Sorry if your're upset..I'm just in a silly mood.
I'm never going to post here on site ever again because it is eggshell city ..my kind of posting is unwanted- I understand that.
I hope everyone appriciates this site like I have it's been a life saver in the past and I've known many angels here... but it ain't for me no more..
It's gone weird..or I'm weired.Love and light.
Love and light.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 14, 2004, at 10:27:57
In reply to Re: This is a poor idea of a game » partlycloudy, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
And I know it's not you, sweetie! Please don't go. Your posts are like magic spells that you weave around us. You HAVE to stay.
pc
Posted by tabitha on October 14, 2004, at 10:45:48
In reply to Re: This is a poor idea of a game » partlycloudy, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
you lovely egg, you. Last post ever? Yeegads! Don't make me go to PB Grief and start an "I Miss Slinky" thread.
Posted by Bobby on October 14, 2004, at 11:02:20
In reply to Re: This is a poor idea of a game » partlycloudy, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
Your posting style not wanted?!? You've been around for several years and you are one of the reasons that I still come here. I challenge anyone to question your importance here! Anyone! So eat a mangoe and settle down my dear. We love you much---right guys?
Posted by Dinah on October 14, 2004, at 11:33:32
In reply to Re: This is a poor idea of a game » partlycloudy, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
Your style of posts are very much appreciated.
I'm feeling rather ponderous at the moment, so I can't put this lightly or gracefully.
But please don't go, Slinky. All our lives are lightened and enriched for your being here.
Posted by B2Chica on October 14, 2004, at 13:49:55
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
i think everything i would need to say has been posted by all our wonderful community already.
However, although the legality 'seems' official, i can't help but think of those tv commercials that say...have you or anyone in your family been injured by 'xxx', if so please call 1-800-555-5555 for you too may qualify for a settlement.
and i can't help but wonder what miss Mary's connection to "computeraddiction.com" is. I mean at least Dr.Bob hasn't ever pushed treatment advertisements on any of us. hmmmmm.
the pbc comment upset me a bit. Some people complain when there is no administrator to help monitor boards and all chaos is loose, then others complain that there is...i believe his 'involvement' is the perfect amount. if each member reads the intro-they know when to expect a PBC from DocBob, and shouldn't be suprised. And i have never felt those pbc's are ANY attempt to 'label'. If each person actually read the intro, reads the rules, takes the little quiz then they understand what this site is all about and how it works.
By becoming members (whatever the sites purpose is) we AS ADULTS acknowlege and accept these rules and purposes.
AND for the record i in no way consider this site or Dr.Bob my medical/MH providers or substitute there of. I am under the care of mdoc, pdoc and T (IRL).
And i don't know that i consider this a comparison to 'medical' sites. Though Dr.Bob is a physician he in no way 'practices' through this website, and all the information is gathered and offered, never pushed or suggested to specific members.proud member 10 months (lurker-14mo)
B2chica.
Posted by Jai Narayan on October 14, 2004, at 14:47:48
In reply to Re: I believe this. .., posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 9:37:18
Posted by Toph on October 14, 2004, at 16:34:57
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
Please don't misunderstand me, I like this place, but I'd like to know more about the PB mission. I have always been curious about Bob's book. Has anyone read it? Does he propose in the book that Psycho Babble is a place where one can receive psychological threatment? I believe that it is therapeutic for me to be able to speak freely about issues related to my illness. But, is therapy a secondary benefit of support or one of the creator's actual goals? Also, what is the research to which other posts refer?
-Toph
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 14, 2004, at 21:46:24
In reply to Re: A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions » Mary_Bowers, posted by alexandra_k on October 13, 2004, at 20:12:48
> your credibility is questionable.
>
> You seem more intent on making accusations.
>
> your accusatory manner.I appreciate the support, so I'm sorry that I also need to ask you not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 14, 2004, at 21:47:37
In reply to Re: A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Toph on October 14, 2004, at 16:34:57
> Does he propose in the book that Psycho Babble is a place where one can receive psychological threatment?
> I believe that it is therapeutic for me to be able to speak freely about issues related to my illness. But, is therapy a secondary benefit of support or one of the creator's actual goals?
It depends what you mean by "therapy". The goals of this site are support and education. And one of the goals of support and education is to help people feel better. If they do feel better, would you say the site was "therapeutic"? Would you say I was their "therapist"?
I do think someone could be a group therapist and provide group therapy online, but that's not what I do here.
> Also, what is the research to which other posts refer?
See:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/research.html
Bob
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on October 15, 2004, at 0:36:25
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
Posted by Toph on October 15, 2004, at 9:26:25
In reply to Re: therapy, posted by Dr. Bob on October 14, 2004, at 21:47:37
> > Does he propose in the book that Psycho Babble is a place where one can receive psychological threatment?
>
> > I believe that it is therapeutic for me to be able to speak freely about issues related to my illness. But, is therapy a secondary benefit of support or one of the creator's actual goals?
>
> It depends what you mean by "therapy". The goals of this site are support and education. And one of the goals of support and education is to help people feel better. If they do feel better, would you say the site was "therapeutic"? Would you say I was their "therapist"?
>
> I do think someone could be a group therapist and provide group therapy online, but that's not what I do here.
>
Thanks for clarifying this. Though not by intent or design I do think there is a group threrapeutic dynamic that operates here. And, no, I don't think of you as a therapist, rather someone who fosters a safe, supportive, informative and, yes, therapeutic environment.Being careful not to overly idealize you, I have appreciated how available you have been to my questions lately.
-Toph
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 15, 2004, at 10:17:49
In reply to A physician's moral indifference to peer opinions, posted by Mary_Bowers on October 13, 2004, at 14:23:22
I don't understand its purpose! Should this have been funny? What am I not getting here?
Posted by Jai Narayan on October 15, 2004, at 11:41:31
In reply to Dr. Bob, what's your feelings/thoughts on this? (nm), posted by Shadowplayers721 on October 15, 2004, at 0:36:25
Posted by Slinky on October 15, 2004, at 13:41:45
In reply to Re: This is a poor idea of a game » partlycloudy, posted by Slinky on October 14, 2004, at 10:02:51
..and that all posts posted be deleted immediately.
I was and am serious about never EVER posting..and I needed attention.
With only a few loved ones here left who worship me I will sit and suck my thumb...remembering how great I once was.
no bunny
Posted by tabitha on October 15, 2004, at 14:18:40
In reply to Request that slinky never posts to me EVER, posted by Slinky on October 15, 2004, at 13:41:45
> no bunnyOh, now that's just cruel. No dessert for you, missy!
Posted by Jai Narayan on October 15, 2004, at 15:54:55
In reply to Request that slinky never posts to me EVER, posted by Slinky on October 15, 2004, at 13:41:45
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