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Posted by alexandra_k on October 7, 2004, at 17:39:24
'Alternative' seems to imply that one is required to choose between this kind of treatment or conventional medicine.
'Complimentary' seems to convey the notion that such treatments may be ised in conjunction with conventional medicine.
Just a thought...
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 7, 2004, at 23:38:48
In reply to 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by alexandra_k on October 7, 2004, at 17:39:24
> 'Alternative' seems to imply that one is required to choose between this kind of treatment or conventional medicine.
>
> 'Complimentary' seems to convey the notion that such treatments may be ised in conjunction with conventional medicine.Exactly right:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/whatiscam/#2
I just called the board here Alternative to keep it more simple...
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on October 10, 2004, at 1:40:25
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 7, 2004, at 23:38:48
> > 'Alternative' seems to imply that one is required to choose between this kind of treatment or conventional medicine.
> >
> > 'Complimentary' seems to convey the notion that such treatments may be ised in conjunction with conventional medicine.
>
> Exactly right:
>
> http://nccam.nih.gov/health/whatiscam/#2
>
> I just called the board here Alternative to keep it more simple...
>
> BobHow is 'Alternative' more simple than 'complementary'? Less letters?
Curious...
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 11, 2004, at 4:29:22
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary' » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on October 10, 2004, at 1:40:25
> > I just called the board here Alternative to keep it more simple...
>
> How is 'Alternative' more simple than 'complementary'? Less letters?Sorry, I meant more simple than "Alternative and/or Complementary"...
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on October 11, 2004, at 16:44:08
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 11, 2004, at 4:29:22
> > > I just called the board here Alternative to keep it more simple...
> >
> > How is 'Alternative' more simple than 'complementary'? Less letters?
>
> Sorry, I meant more simple than "Alternative and/or Complementary"...
>
> BobOh, I see - sure, thats a lot less letters :-)
What about just 'complementary' though?
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 12, 2004, at 2:59:27
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by alexandra_k on October 11, 2004, at 16:44:08
> What about just 'complementary' though?
I suppose either could have been used to include the other... Do you think it's worth changing at this point?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on October 12, 2004, at 8:00:02
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by alexandra_k on October 11, 2004, at 16:44:08
Even though it was my understanding that he had agreed in principle to a change.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 12, 2004, at 16:51:21
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 12, 2004, at 2:59:27
> > What about just 'complementary' though?
>
> I suppose either could have been used to include the other... Do you think it's worth changing at this point?
>
> BobI'm not too bothered actually. I just thought that 'complimentary' was a weaker claim than 'alternative', but I don't suppose it matters really. I was just curious about why you picked that one.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 13, 2004, at 1:59:58
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by alexandra_k on October 12, 2004, at 16:51:21
> I was just curious about why you picked that one.
I think it's used more...
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on October 13, 2004, at 19:31:23
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 13, 2004, at 1:59:58
Posted by SLS on October 24, 2004, at 9:54:19
In reply to 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by alexandra_k on October 7, 2004, at 17:39:24
> 'Alternative' seems to imply that one is required to choose between this kind of treatment or conventional medicine.
>
> 'Complimentary' seems to convey the notion that such treatments may be ised in conjunction with conventional medicine.
>
> Just a thought...
On a somewhat related note, I am often upset when a post is redirected from Babble to Alternative simply because one of the multiple substances being discussed is not a traditional medication, but serves to complement it in a way that is necessary for the treatment to work. For instance, a recent treatment strategy discussed included the addition of an amino acid to a stimulant or MAOI, the overall treatment being medical rather than alternative. I would like to see some of these type combinations remain on the medical board.
- Scott
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 24, 2004, at 11:03:55
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by SLS on October 24, 2004, at 9:54:19
> > 'Alternative' seems to imply that one is required to choose between this kind of treatment or conventional medicine.
> >
> > 'Complimentary' seems to convey the notion that such treatments may be ised in conjunction with conventional medicine.
> >
> > Just a thought...
>
>
> On a somewhat related note, I am often upset when a post is redirected from Babble to Alternative simply because one of the multiple substances being discussed is not a traditional medication, but serves to complement it in a way that is necessary for the treatment to work. For instance, a recent treatment strategy discussed included the addition of an amino acid to a stimulant or MAOI, the overall treatment being medical rather than alternative. I would like to see some of these type combinations remain on the medical board.
>
>
> - ScottSo would I.
Lar
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 24, 2004, at 21:00:58
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by SLS on October 24, 2004, at 9:54:19
> I am often upset when a post is redirected from Babble to Alternative simply because one of the multiple substances being discussed is not a traditional medication, but serves to complement it in a way that is necessary for the treatment to work.
It's not a perfect system, but I've been doing it that way because:
1. It shifts some of the activity away from PB, which is getting busier and busier.
2. Information about complementary treatments can still be posted -- and linked to so it's only a click away.
Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 24, 2004, at 22:21:45
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 24, 2004, at 21:00:58
> > I am often upset when a post is redirected from Babble to Alternative simply because one of the multiple substances being discussed is not a traditional medication, but serves to complement it in a way that is necessary for the treatment to work.
>
> It's not a perfect system, but I've been doing it that way because:
>
> 1. It shifts some of the activity away from PB, which is getting busier and busier.
>
> 2. Information about complementary treatments can still be posted -- and linked to so it's only a click away.
>
> BobYour intent with respect to #1 is reasonable, but what happens is that threads that are primarily medication threads just die on the Alternative board. They collapse. They stop being productive, thought-provoking, interactive....all the good things that we all look for, just cease.
As for #2, apparently a click away is too far for most people, if it involves a different board.
Lar
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 25, 2004, at 0:26:00
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary' » Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on October 24, 2004, at 22:21:45
> apparently a click away is too far for most people, if it involves a different board.
Then they may not be so interested? Some people will click and click and click to look for information...
Bob
Posted by alesta on October 25, 2004, at 3:18:39
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 25, 2004, at 0:26:00
> > apparently a click away is too far for most people, if it involves a different board.
>
> Then they may not be so interested? Some people will click and click and click to look for information...
>
> Bobit's not just about the people looking for information, but the people contributing information. if you feel PB is becoming too popular, this is not the way to handle it, by limiting people's access to knowledge by removing their post from the board where it is most suited. removing an extra post here and there on PB isn't going to make much difference anyway, as far as helping with post overpopulation. i third the motion..that is, if you are taking our opinions into consideration..
amy
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 25, 2004, at 10:02:37
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary', posted by Dr. Bob on October 25, 2004, at 0:26:00
> > apparently a click away is too far for most people, if it involves a different board.
>
> Then they may not be so interested? Some people will click and click and click to look for information...
>
> Bob"they may", and "some people" apparently do not represent posters on Babble. My observation is that a medication-oriented thread diverted to Alternative because of e.g. a mention of a B-vitamin dies there. People who tend to post to Alternative are probably not so drug-oriented, and to answer in the context of the thread, they have to follow it back and see how it came to be moved.
Your intent does not accord with real observations. Medication-oriented threads which take on aspects of alternative and complementary care ought to remain on the medication board so they do not die out. Frankly, Bob, I think that some of the side-effect and tolerance and poop-out issues can be addressed with complementary considerations, but people who are medication oriented simply do no know of the options. They're not going to find out what they are by being diverted to another board. It is a rare event that your "moved" threads have any further postings.
Lar
Posted by SLS on October 25, 2004, at 11:02:22
In reply to Re: 'Alternative' versus 'complimentary' » Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on October 25, 2004, at 10:02:37
> My observation is that a medication-oriented thread diverted to Alternative because of e.g. a mention of a B-vitamin dies there.This has been my observation as well.
- Scott
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