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Posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
Psycho-Babble Biography
For each poster to post a brief post about him/herself. No replies except updates. Diagnosis, med history, brief life story.
That way newcomers could come and get a birds eye view of anyone they wanted to know more about. And newcomers could add their own and link it in any posts they make. No one would have to read all the archives to figure out who anyone was. Well, maybe the bio archives, but no other ones.
And we could refresh our memories too, so as to make our posts more personal.
Just an idea.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 10:28:46
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
I *love* that idea!!
Posted by fallsfall on August 7, 2003, at 11:34:01
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Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 12:38:30
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Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 12:41:37
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
If anything can bring this closeknit group together even more than it already is, this is it. Can't tell you enough what a wonderful suggestion this is, Dinah! :-)
Posted by shar on August 7, 2003, at 13:48:24
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
I like the idea, also. However, I'm wondering if, after a name change, a poster would put up a new bio, even if it included the same info as the original bio? Without that, we would only learn about people who keep the same name forever. And, that may be quite enough, I've already said I like the idea, but I hardly recognize anyone on PSB and PB anymore. Perhaps new people, perhaps just new names.
Shar
Posted by Ron Hill on August 7, 2003, at 13:58:47
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
Dinah, et al,
I like your idea. I made a similar recommendation about five months ago. Here is what I posted followed by Dr. Bob’s reply:
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http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030221/msgs/209135.htmlParticipant's dx/Rx Biography Board?
Posted by Ron Hill on March 14, 2003, at 16:11:11
Dr. Bob,
I've had this idea for a while, so I'll write it down on virtual paper (pronounced costly sever space). I'm sure it's not an original idea, but here goes. I offer it only as an idea. It might not be possible to implement this for a variety of reasons.
We pbabble participants could better help one another if we had ready access to each others dx history and medication history. I have trouble keeping this type of information straight in my mind even for the handful of participants with whom I regularly communicate. Therefore, I find myself repeatedly asking, and being asked, for the dx and Rx history.
What if we had a "Participant's dx/Rx Biography" board? Each participant would have the option of submitting a post wherein he or she could (at their choosing) provide their dx and Rx history including lessons learned along the way.
Logistically, one method might be to allot each participant one post that he or she could edit and/or update periodically. However, this would require an “edit and replace” function not currently used on this site. Obviously, only the individual participant would be allowed to write in his or her biography and all others would have read-only access.Alternatively, each poster could be allotted their own thread, whereby, updates could be accomplished by merely adding a post to the respective thread. One complication of this approach would be that only the individual participant would be allowed to post to his or her biography thread and all others would have read-only access.
The downside includes the additional sever space required, the additional administrative oversight that would be required, and the start-up costs. On the upside, I would be able to check the respective biography before I reply to a poster and, thereby, hopefully provide better information. Also, the bio board would alleviate the need for me to reiterate over and over again my own dx/Rx information. Instead, I could merely provide the link to my biography.
Further refinements could include the option to post one small picture in each bio, and to sort the bio entries according to dx. The latter would facilitate the opportunity for someone to peruse the biographies within a particular dx category to see what has worked for people with that particular disorder. Comorbid disorders throw a small monkey wrench in the categorization process, but this could be worked out.
It might be neccessary to place limits on the number of allowable words so that the biography does not turn into a diary.
Just bouncing ideas around. Any thoughts?
-- Ron
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http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030221/msgs/209306.htmlRe: Participant's dx/Rx Biography Board?
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 15, 2003, at 1:09:05
In reply to Participant's dx/Rx Biography Board?, posted by Ron Hill on March 14, 2003, at 16:11:11
> Logistically, one method might be to allot each participant one post that he or she could edit and/or update periodically. However, this would require an "edit and replace" function not currently used on this site.
Thanks for the ideas. This could go in your "profile" (which is already on my to-do list)... Since you do edit and replace registration information...
> Alternatively, each poster could be allotted their own thread, whereby, updates could be accomplished by merely adding a post to the respective thread. One complication of this approach would be that only the individual participant would be allowed to post to his or her biography thread and all others would have read-only access.
OTOH, this would automatically be longitudinal... Like a blog, hmm...
Bob
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Posted by Greg on August 7, 2003, at 14:23:09
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
Wow Dinah!
This is a great idea! It doesn't divide any groups of people, it doesn't leave anyone out, you don't have to participate if you don't want to, and you could get to know the people you talk with a little better. The only thing I'd add is that Bob has to go first... :) Any wagers on whether or not he will?
When I finally get my Architectural Design business up and running full time, would you be my creative consultant?
You are the bomb Dinah!
Greg
> Psycho-Babble Biography
>
> For each poster to post a brief post about him/herself. No replies except updates. Diagnosis, med history, brief life story.
>
> That way newcomers could come and get a birds eye view of anyone they wanted to know more about. And newcomers could add their own and link it in any posts they make. No one would have to read all the archives to figure out who anyone was. Well, maybe the bio archives, but no other ones.
>
> And we could refresh our memories too, so as to make our posts more personal.
>
> Just an idea.
Posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 15:48:48
In reply to Re: A New Board Suggestion » Dinah, posted by Ron Hill on August 7, 2003, at 13:58:47
Eeesh, Ron. I'm sorry to have stolen your fine idea. :)
It must have impressed me at the time and been percolating in the back of my mind until my discussion with Ame Sans Vie on Social moved it to the front of my mind.
All credit goes to you, where it rightfully belongs. :)
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 16:45:00
In reply to Re: A New Board Suggestion » Ron Hill, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 15:48:48
Ya know, I like the idea so much that even if Dr. Bob isn't willing to implement it, I'd be more than happy to create a separate site *myself* where PBabblers can post their bios. Just a thought.
Posted by Ron Hill on August 7, 2003, at 18:53:15
In reply to Re: A New Board Suggestion » Ron Hill, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 15:48:48
> Eeesh, Ron. I'm sorry to have stolen your fine idea. :)
> It must have impressed me at the time and been percolating in the back of my mind until my discussion with Ame Sans Vie on Social moved it to the front of my mind.
>
> All credit goes to you, where it rightfully belongs. :)You didn't steal anything, Dinah. I pasted my previous post to this thread merely to locate it with the current discussion of the topic. I'm excited that you have brought this idea up again because I think it would be a great enhancement.
When I posted the idea a few months ago it did not receive a lot of support/input from the pbabble community members. I hope that everyone interested in a bio board will post a note to this thread so as to give Dr. Bob an indication of the interest and usefulness of such an addition.
The downside of the idea is that it means more work for the already overworked Dr. Bob. I hope he understands how much we appreciate the efforts he extends on our behalves.
Thanks Dinah.
-- Ron
Posted by Zo on August 8, 2003, at 0:56:20
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
Posted by Dinah on August 8, 2003, at 7:50:11
In reply to A New Board Suggestion, posted by Dinah on August 7, 2003, at 9:47:03
If it would make site maintenance easier, maybe you could substitute the bio board for the 2001 board. By my admittedly quick count, there seems to have only been two posts since April of this year on that board.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 8, 2003, at 12:51:03
In reply to If Bob won't do it, *I* will! lol, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 16:45:00
Since Bob hasn't responded yet, I'd like to offer to you all again that I would enjoy creating another site (a separate entity that perhaps could be linked to from PB?) for the bios. I don't have any sites online right now that I've designed*, but I assure you I can create a wonderful site for the bios and moderate it per the current civility policies of Babble. Besides, I just bought the Macromedia Studio MX software package (a top-of-the-line set of web design programs) and I've been dying for a reason to use it, lol. I could start working on a site immediately (then if Bob decides to add his own this site, I'll just change mine to something else) and post progress online for everyone's approval, criticisms, and suggestions. What do you think?
*other than an extremely crude one I threw together in five minutes just to allow some of my online buddies to hear my original home recordings of Beatle's tunes... and by the way, if you're interested in hearing these songs, just go to PSB, where I'm about to post a link... I'd love some opinions on them :-). There's no downloading required -- it's all streaming audio.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 8, 2003, at 23:53:36
In reply to Re: If Bob won't do it, *I* will! lol, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 8, 2003, at 12:51:03
> Since Bob hasn't responded yet
I responded when it came up before! :-)
Bob
Posted by Dinah on August 9, 2003, at 3:21:03
In reply to Re: Whether Bob will do it, posted by Dr. Bob on August 8, 2003, at 23:53:36
I followed Ron's link, and didn't see a conclusion, only a hmmmm....
Is that a no then?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 10, 2003, at 10:49:51
In reply to Re: Whether Bob will do it » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on August 9, 2003, at 3:21:03
> I followed Ron's link, and didn't see a conclusion, only a hmmmm....
>
> Is that a no then?No, that's not a no. But does anyone have an opinion on doing this as "profiles" vs. threads? One difference is that you could edit your profile, but not your posts to your thread...
Bob
Posted by Dinah on August 10, 2003, at 13:43:33
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads, posted by Dr. Bob on August 10, 2003, at 10:49:51
Threads would be easier for you, right? And we could always post followups to our own original post to make amendments. I guess there should be some warning not to put anything that was too identifying in the post, but that's always a good idea.
Anyone who had a Yahoo profile or a personal web page could always post links to it. (Although again, there's privacy concerns there.)
Posted by fallsfall on August 10, 2003, at 22:00:44
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads, posted by Dr. Bob on August 10, 2003, at 10:49:51
This data will change over time, so people will want to correct their old data. I think the profiles would be more appropriate.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2003, at 1:50:37
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads, posted by Dinah on August 10, 2003, at 13:43:33
> Anyone who had a Yahoo profile or a personal web page could always post links to it. (Although again, there's privacy concerns there.)
Oh, that's right, I think I was thinking about having the profiles be *there*. Maybe that's not such a great idea, after all...
If they were here, I think I could make it an option to have them restricted to registered posters. Although anyone can register, so that wouldn't be much of a restriction. Although it would at least make them unGoogleable...
Bob
Posted by Dinah on August 12, 2003, at 2:31:54
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads, posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2003, at 1:50:37
You mean you were thinking of having the profiles on Yahoo? I have no particular objection. That option is already available, if you meant to use the already existing Yahoo profiles. (Although of course Yahoo names aren't necessarily Babble names.) The downside is that you'd have to register for Yahoo, like you do to get to Open and I think to the tips section? Some people don't particularly like Yahoo, and have in the past been reluctant to register there.
Even in an ungoogle-able fashion, I think it would be unwise to be too revealing in the profile. I don't think I'd put anything in there I wouldn't put in a post. Most Babblers are terrific. But there's no requirement for terrific-ness to register. And already on board, I've had at least one incidence where information I've posted has been used in a not terribly kind way towards me. I now try always to keep that in mind, and balance openness with discretion.
Posted by NikkiT2 on August 12, 2003, at 8:13:32
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on August 12, 2003, at 2:31:54
I wouldn't want to use Yahoo profiles either really... I already have a yahoo account, and that includes my full name.. which I wouldn't want every tom dick or harry here knowing. Also, for here I would want to include my mental health history, which is something I wouldn't want to include on my Yahoo profile.
Plus lots of people have problems with Yahoo..
I like the idea of having it as a page here.. so I can choose better what I would like to say
Nikki
Posted by KimberlyDi on August 14, 2003, at 13:08:56
In reply to Re: profiles vs. threads, posted by Dr. Bob on August 10, 2003, at 10:49:51
Posted by Dinah on August 14, 2003, at 13:34:59
In reply to I prefer profiles (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by KimberlyDi on August 14, 2003, at 13:08:56
My understanding is that profiles are a lot more difficult to set up, and a stretch goal for you, Dr. Bob.
How about starting a board with threads, which wouldn't be that much of a project.
Then when you have time to put together the profile function, people can do a profile then delete their thread, or the whole board could be deleted after sufficient notice.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 14, 2003, at 19:25:47
In reply to Re: Well, how about...., posted by Dinah on August 14, 2003, at 13:34:59
> My understanding is that profiles are a lot more difficult to set up, and a stretch goal for you, Dr. Bob.
Hmm, maybe I should just let go of the whole database idea, at least for now... Give me a couple weeks?
Bob
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