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Posted by OddipusRex on January 21, 2003, at 16:04:08
Is there a policy re posting personal information such as real names of other posters? I know this has come up before in regard to posting sar's real name. There is a post on PB 2000 which identifies a former poster. Is this allowed? I don't think it should be.
I am not suggesting any negative motivations on the part of anyone who posted these things. But I also want to be assured that no one would be allowed to do that to me. For instance if someone posted saying OddipusRex is really Orville Redenbacher go see his popcorn site, would that be allowed? I hope not. And if someone else posted that OddipusRex is Orville Redenbacher and he's dead, would that be allowed?
Posted by noa on January 21, 2003, at 19:30:35
In reply to Posting identifying info about other posters, posted by OddipusRex on January 21, 2003, at 16:04:08
Rex, as soon as I had posted that, I emailed Dr. Bob to ask him to remove it because I realized I had revealed Bob's name without his permission. I also had posted a post here at PBA regarding this.
see:
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20021128/msgs/8888.html
I also had immediately emailed Bob B. to let him know I had done this (in my excitement to announce it to other friends).
He then emailed both me and Dr. Bob saying that it was ok, and that he actually preferred having his full name posted.
But I think you ask a good question. For the most part, I do not know anyone's real name or last name. But Bob B. and I had corresponded a few years ago, and even met once in person when he was passing through my area. There are probably other posters who have corresponded and know each other's identities.
So the question is good--I did the posting in haste and regretted it immediately. In this case it turned out to be ok, but if he hadn't wanted it posted, then it would have indeed been a problem. I think that Dr. Bob would have removed the name in that case.
But I am glad you asked so that we can discuss this for future reference, too.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2003, at 21:59:38
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters » OddipusRex, posted by noa on January 21, 2003, at 19:30:35
> if he hadn't wanted it posted, then it would have indeed been a problem. I think that Dr. Bob would have removed the name in that case.
Right.
Bob
Posted by OddipusRex on January 21, 2003, at 22:19:56
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters, posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2003, at 21:59:38
Is the policy that it would have been removed if he hadn't given you permission or that it would have been removed only if he protested?
What was your rationale for allowing sar's name to be posted?
> > if he hadn't wanted it posted, then it would have indeed been a problem. I think that Dr. Bob would have removed the name in that case.
>
> Right.
>
> Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2003, at 19:04:37
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters » Dr. Bob, posted by OddipusRex on January 21, 2003, at 22:19:56
> Is the policy that it would have been removed if he hadn't given you permission or that it would have been removed only if he protested?
I wouldn't say I have a clear "policy" on this. In general, my policy is, believe it or not, to "interfere" as little as possible.
> What was your rationale for allowing sar's name to be posted?
Hmm, good question. Was it her full name? If so, I'd appreciate it if you would e-mail me the URL so I can take another look at it.
Bob
Posted by noa on January 22, 2003, at 19:38:03
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2003, at 19:04:37
This was after she died--a friend of hers posted the announcement.
Posted by OddipusRex on January 22, 2003, at 20:17:02
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters, posted by noa on January 22, 2003, at 19:38:03
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020430/msgs/23064.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020403/msgs/21702.html
Posted by OddipusRex on April 14, 2003, at 17:18:58
In reply to Re: Posting identifying info about other posters, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2003, at 19:04:37
Welcome back Bob! Think it's time to revisit this issue in light of recent events?
Several people post that another poster is in danger of suicide in response to info obtained off board.
Someone offers the information about another poster's location and the high school she graduated from and her age. (Not clear if that was from posted info or obtained off board.)
Someone who claimed to be another poster's father posts that the poster is in a coma.
Someone offers to e-mail others e-mails received from another poster.
And you never addressed my good question about posting sar's real name. The urls are in a post above.
These things do seem to violate the privacy of others. There is also no way of verifying any of this information so it may also potentially be damaging or slanderous. No judgements implied about anyone's motives. But even if these posts were allowed in an "emergency" shouldn't they be removed now?
> > Is the policy that it would have been removed if he hadn't given you permission or that it would have been removed only if he protested?
>
> I wouldn't say I have a clear "policy" on this. In general, my policy is, believe it or not, to "interfere" as little as possible.
>
> > What was your rationale for allowing sar's name to be posted?
>
> Hmm, good question. Was it her full name? If so, I'd appreciate it if you would e-mail me the URL so I can take another look at it.
>
> Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 11:45:30
In reply to Re: Posting info about other posters » Dr. Bob, posted by OddipusRex on April 14, 2003, at 17:18:58
> Welcome back Bob! Think it's time to revisit this issue in light of recent events?
Thanks! I'm not sure it needs to be revisited. I think I'm still OK with what I said before:
> > if he hadn't wanted it posted, then it would have indeed been a problem. I think that Dr. Bob would have removed the name in that case.
>
> Right.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20021128/msgs/8940.htmlBob
Posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 13:01:07
In reply to Re: Posting info about other posters, posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 11:45:30
What about posting sar's full name?
What about people who are disabled or in a coma and unable to object?
What about people who are not reading the board at that time and would not know to object?
Is your policy that anyone can post anything about anyone(as long as it is civil) without regaurd to truth? For instance can I post that poster X is unable to post because he is in jail?
And will this be left on the board unless he requests it to be removed? Is it okay to post that someone who hasn't been heard from lately is dead? How would they know to protest if they no longer read the board? My thought was that not allowing this would protect the board from the anguish of reported suicides,etc. as well as protecting individual privacy. You may not be aware that the recent report of a comatose poster caused a lot of pain and discomfort among posters here.Thanks.
> > Welcome back Bob! Think it's time to revisit this issue in light of recent events?
>
> Thanks! I'm not sure it needs to be revisited. I think I'm still OK with what I said before:
>
> > > if he hadn't wanted it posted, then it would have indeed been a problem. I think that Dr. Bob would have removed the name in that case.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20021128/msgs/8940.html
>
> Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 13:24:26
In reply to Unanswered questions » Dr. Bob, posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 13:01:07
> Is your policy that anyone can post anything about anyone(as long as it is civil) without regaurd to truth? For instance can I post that poster X is unable to post because he is in jail?
I don't think I'd consider it civil to knowingly post false information...
> My thought was that not allowing this would protect the board from the anguish of reported suicides,etc. as well as protecting individual privacy. You may not be aware that the recent report of a comatose poster caused a lot of pain and discomfort among posters here.
I'm aware. And I'm biased, but I thought people handled it well. What exactly do you think shouldn't be allowed?
Bob
Posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 14:27:11
In reply to Re: Unanswered questions, posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 13:24:26
What about posting sar's full name?
What about people who are disabled or in a coma and unable to object?
What about people who are not reading the board at that time and would not know to object?
> I don't think I'd consider it civil to knowingly post false information...
But how would you know whether it was false or not? And would it be okay to post if it was true? What if it's true but the person has not given permission to have it announced on PB?
>
> I'm aware. And I'm biased, but I thought people handled it well. What exactly do you think shouldn't be allowed?
>
I don't think people should be allowed to post information of any sort about other posters which has not appeared on the board all ready. There is no way to verify anyone's identity or the truth of these posts. I think it is a violation of the anonymity and privacy that helps make the board possible.PS Are my questions annoying you? That's not my intention.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2003, at 1:19:02
In reply to Re: Unanswered questions » Dr. Bob, posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 14:27:11
> I don't think people should be allowed to post information of any sort about other posters which has not appeared on the board all ready. There is no way to verify anyone's identity or the truth of these posts.
Plenty of unverified information of other types is posted...
> I think it is a violation of the anonymity and privacy that helps make the board possible.
If it's something the person doesn't want shared, I agree, that's an issue, but to assume they don't want anything shared, I don't know...
> PS Are my questions annoying you? That's not my intention.
You ask some hard ones! But good ones...
Bob
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