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Posted by Mr.Scott on August 26, 2002, at 0:29:26
How about a PsychoBabble board for recovering addicts and alcoholics?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 26, 2002, at 19:46:44
In reply to Psycho Babble Recovery, posted by Mr.Scott on August 26, 2002, at 0:29:26
> How about a PsychoBabble board for recovering addicts and alcoholics?
Hmm, interesting idea, what do others think?
Bob
Posted by Phil on August 26, 2002, at 20:00:18
In reply to Re: Psycho Babble Recovery, posted by Dr. Bob on August 26, 2002, at 19:46:44
Two thumbs up. Excellent idea. I never like new ideas...this one I do.
Phil
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 26, 2002, at 23:03:09
In reply to Psycho Babble Recovery, posted by Mr.Scott on August 26, 2002, at 0:29:26
Some of us are, um, having a little trouble staying on our various wagons lately. Every little bit helps.
Posted by ~Alii~ on August 26, 2002, at 23:56:52
In reply to Re: Psycho Babble Recovery, posted by Dr. Bob on August 26, 2002, at 19:46:44
> > How about a PsychoBabble board for recovering addicts and alcoholics?
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> Hmm, interesting idea, what do others think?
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> BobSounds like yet one more board to keep straight from the many others. I'm not against it outright but wonder if PSB wouldn't fufill that side of things.......
Seems to me over the years that many recovering addicts/alcoholics have reached out and have received support on the Social board.
Just putting in my .02 on the matter....
~~Alii
Posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 0:00:30
In reply to Re: another couple of thumbs up, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 26, 2002, at 23:03:09
There aren't a lot of good online recovery resources available, and so often does psychiatric and substance stuff seem to go hand in hand. I suppose it could fit under Psycho Psycho Babble, but I know some people might not think so and this way folks could avoid us (druggies desiring sobriety) talking about stuff that might be irrelavent..
I don't know..just a thought.
Scott
Posted by Mashogr8 on August 27, 2002, at 9:59:22
In reply to Recovery stuff, posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 0:00:30
My preference is for a separate board devoted to just those issues. The varied use of the social board gets too cluttered imo, and I think the issue is way too important to get swept under the other issues as it were. Those who didn't feel comfortable on the new board would still have social. Those who need the new resource would know that they can reach someone(s) who really understood the issues much more readily. (Sorry for the reallly run-on sentence. I tried to make it shorter but it didn't work).
MA
Posted by ~Alii~ on August 27, 2002, at 19:14:02
In reply to Recovery stuff, posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 0:00:30
Scott,Here are some thoughts about adding boards and the links going back to the original posts. Just some more input from the archives.
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How about a PsychoBabble board for recovering addicts and alcoholics?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020725/msgs/7270.html
Recovery stuff
Posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 0:00:30
In reply to Re: another couple of thumbs up, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 26, 2002, at 23:03:09
>>>>> There aren't a lot of good online recovery resources available, and so often does psychiatric and substance stuff seem to go hand in hand. I suppose it could fit under Psycho Psycho Babble, but I know some people might not think so and this way folks could avoid us (druggies desiring sobriety) talking about stuff that might be irrelevant..
I don't know..just a thought.
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Up pops ANOTHER one... soon there'll be...Posted by Janelle on April 22, 2002, at 3:04:25
In reply to You couldn't have returned at a better time » Zo, posted by Janelle on April 22, 2002, at 2:45:17>>>>Well, as Dr. Bob indicated, there's now a 2001 posters board. Here we go ... soon there will be a 2002 and eventually 2003 and so on and so on ... what was once a cohesive family-like community will be unrecognizable.
It's rapidly becoming a totally fractionated (word?) - split and splintered bunch of separate, restricted clique message boards. This all seems so far askew from the intended(?) concept of a mutually supportive, caring website.
What is going on with the formation of these separatist boards defies comprehension. It makes no sense. <<<<
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Greg - Look what's happened!
Posted by Lini on April 23, 2002, at 18:43:00
In reply to i wouldn't make it a male/female thing (nm) » Zo, posted by Krazy Kat on April 23, 2002, at 15:15:57>>>>I think I started all this disagreement with the OTers board, I was pretty offended by Greg's suggestion, (not by Greg, just the board idea) and so had to put in my two cents. Now we've got close to a million dollars here and I don't really understand where things will end with this. So, Doctor with the Surfboard (Phil's posts are pretty damn funny) what shall be the resolution?
How many people have to hate the idea before it gets booted and how many people have to love it before it stays permanently? Cause if we've got an Old Timers board for keeps, well, as I have mentioned, as long as you're taking requests, I think that everyone should be able to have their suggested boards implemented.
Just like Greg. :) <<<<
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Re: I'm glad you understand. » DinahM
Posted by Lini on April 25, 2002, at 16:02:37
In reply to Re: I'm glad you understand. » Lini, posted by DinahM on April 25, 2002, at 15:23:18>>>>Dinah,
Yeah, I was pretty bothered about it when I first read about and OT Board, but I do appreciate the discussion around it, and I think that I do *understand* the sentiments on both sides finally. Though my vote would of course be to forgo additional boards, I think what Dr. Bob is trying to ride out whether the support an OT board affords those that have felt disconnected is worth the annoyance/hurt that others will feel by its creation.
I basically think that there are a lot of things that could be done to help people feel more supported (things I have alluded to in humor and seriously in other posts) but I really think that people should try and find a way to connect/be supportive on PSB, not create more boards. I think it’s a can of worms to start creating special "rooms" to help people out cause it will get endless. (and by this I mean exclusive rooms, not the PSB/PB split)Adapting is a fact of life, and I am not sure that creating a special board for people to catch up on is better than encouraging OT/Newbies to try to figure out a way to catch up/connect/be supportive with what currently exists. I do think that PSB can get a little rowdy, but I would rather see people figure out how to navigate and be supportive/connected there, than for people to retreat to their own corners.
SO, I am sorry that it bothers you, and if it was my board, it would be different, but there would probably just be something else that upset people, because it really is hard to please everyone. That's why it's best to stay out of the pleasing business. :)
All the best to you Dinah, glad you're here. <<<<
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Re: Me too (another SPOWer)
Posted by DinahM on April 23, 2002, at 17:25:25
In reply to I agree (another SPOWer) (nm) » judy1, posted by fi on April 23, 2002, at 17:00:14>>>>Thanks Judy for making me smile.
Now there would be an idea for a very useful board. The SPOW board where everyone goes out of their way to tiptoe gently. A truly safe place for SPOWers. More restrictive civility rules! Coupled with the free-for-all board suggested by someone (Old School maybe?) a while ago, it would remove a lot of tensions from the current social board. :) <<<<
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Re: thoughts about multiple boards
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 2, 2002, at 15:21:01
In reply to Unsolicited thoughts about multiple boards (long), posted by mair on April 30, 2002, at 17:58:58>>>> In my opinion, in spite of the bickering, PSB, as it existed before the recent split was every bit as friendly and accepting as PB was in 2000 before the creation of PSB. (actually probably more) While there are now overall many more posters if you consider all of the boards, PSB, anyway, sees certainly no more and possibly fewer posters than did PB before that first split. When I came on in 2000, I was very intimidated by what I felt was the "club" atmosphere of the Board. It took me a long time (months not weeks) to feel like anyone was even remotely aware of my presence. I think new posters now are identified and enveloped into the fold much more easily and quickly.<<<<
That's a nice perspective, thanks.
>>>> The more Boards the less connecting there will be. For those of us who've been pretty active over enough of a span to want to connect with a lot of different people, it's incredibly confusing now just to figure out where to go. Aficionados of the 2000 Board can say now that they intend to spend plenty of time on PSB but how are they going to decide what goes where, and at what point will that become just too much of a hassle? Some of those same people who have advocated for an old timers board, opposed the original creation of PSB because people would ultimately choose one board or the other. That really did happen with a lot of regular participants. We're all time limited and we have to make choices about how to allocate that time.
IMO, it was good that PSB could be created and become friendly and accepting. Even if it was disruptive for a time and some posters lost touch after the split (which is of course what PB 2000 is for...). The more friendly and accepting boards, the better. It may not be one big happy family, but the more big happy families, the better, too.
>>>> If there is some function to the 2000 Board, there is absolutely no function to the 2001 Board except perhaps to make some people feel better about being excluded by giving them the opportunity to exclude someone else... To cut it off at the end of 2000 seems highly arbitrary and has given some foundation, shaky at best, to the notion of creating new boards every calendar year.
Mair<<<<If the 2000 board serves a valid purpose for some posters, might not the 2001 board serve that same purpose for other posters?
Doing it by year is arbitrary, but it does at least have the advantages of being relatively straightforward and of not leaving anybody out, which a "frequent flier" board, for example, would.
So I'd like to try some new boards, but I'm not by any means wedded to the current system. If anyone can think of a better way to do this, I'm open to suggestions!
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Another Board Idea
Posted by Willow on May 6, 2002, at 10:26:19
Self Harm (this board could cover any topic which involves oneself intentionally causing bodily harm to themself: addictions, cutting, suicidal attempts, negative aspects of manic episodes, eating disorders, bad relationships, bad work habits, etc.
Just another thought. Okay, I know there's a thread somewhere up above where this could have been added, but I'm bone tired, and as my daughter pointed out the C-mask thing won't work if I can't keep it on all night and the drugs certainly aren't working because all I'm doing is sleeping. So excusez moi!
Waiving Willow
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Religion and Theology
Posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 20:19:12
In reply to The 7 Gates on the Road to the Crown of Life, posted by Lou Pilder on May 20, 2002, at 16:33:37
Why not ask Dr. Bob to create a religious/theology site, and that should make Lou and all of the 'attorneys' happy....then all of the posts could go there or be deleted....Kiddo
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Call for New Board
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 25, 2002, at 7:23:07
OK, I officially shout out and ask for a board to discuss theological issues - i have seen this work wonderfully on other sites (indeed, I "own" one such board at another site!!)
It will be open to everyone, like PB and PSB are. This way no one is excluded.
Who else thinks this is a good answer... Those that find it offensive can avoid it this way, yet those that really wish to discuss it can do so without fearing offence.
OK, we seem to be getting an awful lot of boards these days, but hey, what difference will one more make!! :o)
nikki xx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_Alii_ here----Just some food for thought about board splits..........in case some folks weren't familiar with how this space has divided before and the subsequent fallouts.....
--A.
Posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 19:24:32
In reply to Step right up and read all about board splitting.. » Mr.Scott, posted by ~Alii~ on August 27, 2002, at 19:14:02
Point taken. I am personally all in favor of one single board, perhaps with an ability to place an icon on each original post indicating the users intent (ie. recovery, social, med, etc.) I don't see us going back to that format however. And as long as we've already embarked on a road why not test the experiment? I'm really not that passionate about it, and almost never post on anything except the original board except when I know it will get re posted elswhere. Another idea might be to change faith to spirituality and then maybe it would be an appropriate place for recovery talk. Whatever... I'll be coming around until I'm banned or cured whether there are 20 boards or 1.
Scott
Posted by judy1 on August 27, 2002, at 23:26:09
In reply to Psycho Babble Recovery, posted by Mr.Scott on August 26, 2002, at 0:29:26
There certainly has been a lot of posters through the years with these problems, while I personally probably (hmmm, maybe :-) wouldn't use it- I feel it would be a supportive place for those in need. Good luck- judy
Posted by kid a on August 28, 2002, at 9:42:04
In reply to I think it's an excellent idea » Mr.Scott, posted by judy1 on August 27, 2002, at 23:26:09
I don't think it would be very advantageous to create a board for every single possible schizm associated however much with depression...There has to be some other avenues out there for the very specfic reasons why people may be depressed, and I think it would be more benefitial to those needing specific help to seek out those avenues. They would certainly get better support with a more active memberbase.
I certainly don't find anything wrong w/ posting about the subject to say social, though in some aspects I really don't know what aspect that board is best for lately.
Posted by Phil on August 28, 2002, at 9:59:00
In reply to Re: Step right up and read all about board splitting.. » ~Alii~, posted by Mr.Scott on August 27, 2002, at 19:24:32
I can see where this is heading and I'll be leaving now. Hope y'all work it out; you can delete my post above.
I suddenly want no part of this.
Posted by Greg on August 28, 2002, at 10:40:56
In reply to Re: Step right up and read all about board splitting.., posted by Phil on August 28, 2002, at 9:59:00
> I can see where this is heading and I'll be leaving now. Hope y'all work it out; you can delete my post above.
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> I suddenly want no part of this.Deja va all over again, isn't it? I'll join ya...
Posted by kid a on August 28, 2002, at 11:56:49
In reply to Re: Step right up and read all about board splitting.., posted by Greg on August 28, 2002, at 10:40:56
> How about a PsychoBabble board for recovering addicts and alcoholics?
Hmm, interesting idea, what do others think?
Bob
I thought this statement was made to get everyones opinion. Is it only right if your opinion is in favour of the new board? Sorry, I guess I missed that.
Posted by Phil on August 28, 2002, at 13:25:59
In reply to UhOh Conflicting points of view, better wrap it up, posted by kid a on August 28, 2002, at 11:56:49
No, it wasn't the disagreement but the disagreement did remind me that I should stay out of another board debate. Admin ain't my schtick.
I just felt it best that 'I' not get involved.
Posted by kid a on August 28, 2002, at 15:31:17
In reply to Re: UhOh Conflicting points of view, missed what? » kid a, posted by Phil on August 28, 2002, at 13:25:59
"I can see where this is heading and I'll be leaving now"It wasn't very clear to me what you meant here... It is your choice of course, I supose you dislike the dischord more so than the difference...
Posted by BeArDedLADY on August 28, 2002, at 16:08:49
In reply to I think it's an excellent idea » Mr.Scott, posted by judy1 on August 27, 2002, at 23:26:09
To me, it's like the reunion board. I'll never have to go there. I won't have to read the posts. It won't make a bit of difference to me.
But it could help those who need it cope with a very specific problem that is a major contributor to depression and anxiety.
beardy
Posted by Medusa on September 1, 2002, at 5:17:49
In reply to I don't, and here is why..., posted by kid a on August 28, 2002, at 9:42:04
have you tried posting about recovery stuff on the regular boards?
I don't think most would mind - ? I don't cut, but I don't mind seeing those posts on the regular boards. I would be miffed if someone came on and started preaching 12steps for Every Little Thing I complain about - "Medusa, just admit you are powerless over your sister and your life is unmanageable." Ha I know THAT. But I'm the only power that's going to restore me to any kind of sanity.
Problematic with splitting the boards is soon you get recovery-abstinence vs. recovery-moderation splits, and recovery-faith vs. recovery-nontheist, and recovery-flirt vs. recovery-abstinent-from-sex, and recovery-newbie vs. recovery-oldtimer, and who knows what else.
Posted by _alii_ on September 7, 2002, at 0:25:48
In reply to Re: I don't, and here is why..., posted by Medusa on September 1, 2002, at 5:17:49
>>>> Problematic with splitting the boards is soon you get recovery-abstinence vs. recovery-moderation splits, and recovery-faith vs. recovery-nontheist, and recovery-flirt vs. recovery-abstinent-from-sex, and recovery-newbie vs. recovery-oldtimer, and who knows what else.<<<<
Medusa----
You summed up what I was trying to point out with my lengthy post above including archived posts regarding board splitting.
Thank you for hitting this nail on the head.
Indeed....who does know what else we're headed for with the fractionation happening here?
--Alii
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 8, 2002, at 21:18:52
In reply to Chalk me up under the no thanks column on this one » Medusa, posted by _alii_ on September 7, 2002, at 0:25:48
> > Problematic with splitting the boards is soon you get recovery-abstinence vs. recovery-moderation splits, and recovery-faith vs. recovery-nontheist, and recovery-flirt vs. recovery-abstinent-from-sex, and recovery-newbie vs. recovery-oldtimer, and who knows what else.
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> You summed up what I was trying to point out with my lengthy post above including archived posts regarding board splitting.I think I'd like to give a separate board a try, but I'm not going to be able to set it up until I have more time. And how about we see how much it gets used before we cross all those other bridges? :-)
Bob
Posted by _alii_ on September 9, 2002, at 1:06:26
In reply to Re: Chalk me up under the thanks column, posted by Dr. Bob on September 8, 2002, at 21:18:52
Posted by trouble on September 15, 2002, at 17:32:26
In reply to It's your board Doc B.......do whatcha like (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by _alii_ on September 9, 2002, at 1:06:26
This is the end of the thread.
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