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Posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2002, at 15:37:55
Hi, everyone,
Space is getting tight again... I was wondering, do you think it's important to keep PSB covered by the search function? If I deleted the PSB indexes, it would save a fair amount of space...
Bob
Posted by jane d on January 17, 2002, at 16:58:23
In reply to Including PSB in searches, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2002, at 15:37:55
I think the search is worth preserving if possible. Not everything posted on Social is on the "how are you today" level and, in fact, it has seemed to me that you've been trying to encourage us to use it for more serious subjects. Without any search function thats not going to work. However I'm not sure that you need as comprehensive a search function there. Would cutting back on the search options save any space? What about searching only on subject lines?
Jane
Posted by kiddo on January 17, 2002, at 21:58:29
In reply to Re: Including PSB in searches, posted by jane d on January 17, 2002, at 16:58:23
Hiya-
My former offer stands, if you wanted to transfer the older messages (2000, Jan-June 2001) it would save a lot of space, & they'd still be accessible.
Just thinking out loud-
> I think the search is worth preserving if possible. Not everything posted on Social is on the "how are you today" level and, in fact, it has seemed to me that you've been trying to encourage us to use it for more serious subjects. Without any search function thats not going to work. However I'm not sure that you need as comprehensive a search function there. Would cutting back on the search options save any space? What about searching only on subject lines?
>
> Jane
Posted by fi on January 18, 2002, at 6:46:52
Please leave some searching available- could save on space with jane d and/or kiddos ideas and offers?
There is a lot of problem-specific response which is valuable to have access to. And the first time I used PSB I was a bit disoriented and found being able to search on topics gave me a better idea of what was there on things I was concerned about.
One of the things that sometimes concerns me is that the particularly desperate wont get an instant reply when they post. I know that's not how the Board functions, and that they should be trying a person as well. But I think its v useful that they can also search the PSB for words around 'suicidal' and find out the kind of past 'hang on in there' responses that are generally applicable, straight away.
It also helped *me* re posting as I hadnt worked out how to start a new thread (or that that was the name re what I was trying to do), so I posted in an existing thread after a relevant message. But I may be a particularly ill-informed user!
Fi
Posted by IsoM on January 18, 2002, at 17:06:44
In reply to re PSB in searches, posted by fi on January 18, 2002, at 6:46:52
I, too, would like the search feature to remain, if possible, even in an abbreviated way, Dr. Bob. I'm someone who uses a search feature on most sites including PB Social.
Posted by jane d on January 20, 2002, at 12:09:17
In reply to Including PSB in searches, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2002, at 15:37:55
What about adding a line on the post confirmation screen asking people to consider deleting any part of the previous post that they don't need? Or, if you wanted to be a little more aggressive, stop including that text in the posting box. People could still cut and paste if they really wanted to quote something. This doesn't help in saving space now but it should slow the rate of increase and it should also make some of the posts much more readable.
Jane
Posted by IsoM on January 20, 2002, at 13:37:25
In reply to suggestion, posted by jane d on January 20, 2002, at 12:09:17
Posted by medlib on January 21, 2002, at 22:34:12
In reply to suggestion, posted by jane d on January 20, 2002, at 12:09:17
> What about adding a line on the post confirmation screen asking people to consider deleting any part of the previous post that they don't need?
-----------------------------Great idea, Jane! But, how about putting it above the white message box where replies are composed? I can't always get back to that screen after I've "submitted" a response. (It shows the posted message, but not my reply. Since my protracted computer problems, I don't tempt fate by trying to "fix" my first effort lest I lose it entirely.)
I hope that no one else is similarly digitally afflicted, but there may be something to that old adage, "A pound of prevention....".
I hope Dr. Bob takes you up on this one.---medlib
Posted by fi on January 22, 2002, at 9:38:09
In reply to Including PSB in searches, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2002, at 15:37:55
Another thought, tho I realise may be too labour intensive.
I dont think we need to archive the comments re your pics (on any list). I can see they may be fun at the time, but cant see the point in keeping them longer term.
And there are quite a few!
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2002, at 18:15:25
In reply to Re: Including PSB in searches, posted by fi on January 22, 2002, at 9:38:09
> I think the search is worth preserving if possible. Not everything posted on Social is on the "how are you today" level and, in fact, it has seemed to me that you've been trying to encourage us to use it for more serious subjects. Without any search function thats not going to work...
> I think its v useful that they can also search the PSB for words around 'suicidal' and find out the kind of past 'hang on in there' responses that are generally applicable, straight away.
OK, those are good points, let's leave it in, at least for now.
> Another thought, tho I realise may be too labour intensive.
>
> I dont think we need to archive the comments re your pics (on any list). I can see they may be fun at the time, but cant see the point in keeping them longer term.I agree! But you're right, it would be too labor intensive to pick and choose...
> My former offer stands, if you wanted to transfer the older messages (2000, Jan-June 2001) it would save a lot of space, & they'd still be accessible.Thanks, but that would be complicated because old posts are still part of the system: other posts link to them, and people can still post from them. Hmm, but maybe the search function could be transferred? That might work...
> What about adding a line on the post confirmation screen asking people to consider deleting any part of the previous post that they don't need?Yes, but doesn't that go without saying? OTOH, I've also thought about making it an option, quote or don't quote, but that would add an extra step to the posting process. I wonder if that's worth it...
> I can't always get back to that screen after I've "submitted" a response. (It shows the posted message, but not my reply. Since my protracted computer problems, I don't tempt fate by trying to "fix" my first effort lest I lose it entirely.)That's another issue I think I can take care of, but haven't had time to yet. In the meantime, if it's not too much trouble, you could always, in the message box, "copy all" before you submit, so if it turns out you want to make a change, you can always just "paste" it back in...
Thanks for the input, everyone!
Bob
Posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 20:50:19
In reply to Re: Including PSB in searches, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2002, at 18:15:25
Dr. Bob,
At one point I was surprised that a Google search on my name turned up the one post I signed with my full first and last name a couple of years ago, giving anyone in the world the key to my identity (and then some!).
Would you be willing to delete that one post? I don't really care if anyone here knows who I am and how to get ahold of me -- in fact, I explicitly give you permission to give my email address to anyone who has a credible reason to write to me off-forum -- but the world outside of Psycho-Babble still stygmatizes mental illness to a great extent, and there ARE people I would prefer not link me to my posts, especially if those people are mentioned (by name or working relationship, for instance) in what I have written.
Which brings me to the second question -- why is Psycho-Babble searchable by Google?
Is it just me, or are we in a relatively quiet period on the board right now, free of huge emotional flame-wars? Everyone seems peaceful and loving, supportive and kind. This is good.
Appreciatively,
Mark H.
Posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 22:21:31
In reply to Re: Inc PB/PSB in *external* searches - Dr. Bob?, posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 20:50:19
Mark, I'm happy that searches can come up with PB posts. It's how I initially found PB & info on adrafinil, now my best medication.
As far as I know, unless you specify perimeters for search engines NOT to find posts, it's bound to happen normally.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 20, 2002, at 8:13:17
In reply to Re: Inc PB/PSB in *external* searches - Dr. Bob?, posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 20:50:19
> Would you be willing to delete that one post?
I've edited it, how about that?
> I don't really care if anyone here knows who I am and how to get ahold of me
I mentioned before:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20011216/msgs/2729.html
a system I have in mind for doing that without them having to know your email address. That should deal with this.
> Which brings me to the second question -- why is Psycho-Babble searchable by Google?
Because that way people can find out about it? Like IsoM says.
> Is it just me, or are we in a relatively quiet period on the board right now, free of huge emotional flame-wars? Everyone seems peaceful and loving, supportive and kind. This is good.
Yup! :-)
Bob
Posted by Mark H. on February 21, 2002, at 15:02:31
In reply to Re: Inc PB/PSB in *external* searches, posted by Dr. Bob on February 20, 2002, at 8:13:17
Thank you, Dr Bob, that's perfect.
In my own experience, only one person I know of has come to this board and thought, "Oh my gosh, that's the Mark H. I went through school with," and to her credit, she IMMEDIATELY wrote me and asked if it was OK with me if she read my posts (and of course I told her it was).
I purposely have listed virtually all of my contact information on every database service on the web, because I want people from my past to be able to find me. I use my full name as my ID at eBay and Audiogon. I'm listed in the phone book. My accessibility is almost never abused.
As I said, my only reason for not using my full name and email address in every post here is simply the stigma that remains about mental illness, mostly among those who have never experienced it. Almost anyone who talks to me about mental illness, however, I eventually refer to Psycho-Babble, just as I was referred to Psycho-Babble by my psychiatrist. This is a wonderful resource, the MOST useful resource on the web.
I like the idea of a contact-through-the-site service, similar to what is offered by eBay, Audiogon.com, and another board in which I'm active.
Many thanks,
Mark H.
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