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Posted by jay2112 on March 1, 2021, at 18:12:53
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by rjlockhart37 on February 27, 2021, at 20:22:03
> maybe keep a higher power in mind, that know that there's ... i don't know god still there that can help you. i'm christain, but i don't like rubbing people in the face with christanity - but really god could help you if you pray to him
Well, I am agnostic, but I do admire the social justice of Jesus. What keeps me going is, the question "What if?". Meaning that, I think, there has got to be more than this life. As humans, we may not even be able to translate that stuff...it could have come from some place way beyond us. Einstein even said that there has to be SOMETHING..but what that is, we may someday find out. But...nobody...nobody, "knows".
IMHO,FWIW, etc
Jay
Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 1, 2021, at 19:32:06
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea » rjlockhart37, posted by jay2112 on March 1, 2021, at 18:12:53
yeah i don't want to rub christanity in people's faces but i do care about them that they are saved, i ... believe after we die (and let me just say) we're judged on our works and how treated people. And im not gonna rub or say anything but for people to be saved from the underworld, a place of agony and pain, it's brimetone and fire. That is just my view and opinion. I'm just sharing it. I think there is more to this life, the spirit world and the univers. But my main thing is to get people saved from the underworld after they die. End of transmission.
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Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 1, 2021, at 19:53:04
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 1, 2021, at 19:32:06
but maybe (just this one time) you could pray to god, and just....i don't know, have faith and pray. I know that is suggestive content that may seem....offending, or out there, but really im just trying to help. I know what feeling like i shouldnt be here, but you have to keep going. Ask god, for an awnser, and have faith. I know you said your agnostic but just listen to suggestion. It can be yes or no, but like i said im trying to help
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 3:29:47
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 1, 2021, at 19:53:04
Praying does give me comfort in bad times. And it seems that most of the time, there is an answer that I like.
Posted by undopaminergic on March 7, 2021, at 7:21:00
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 3:29:47
> Praying does give me comfort in bad times. And it seems that most of the time, there is an answer that I like.
>Good for you. My experience is that God is there with me when I'm having a good episode, and when I'm down, he seems to hide away, or at least keep a low profile. To understand, I try to put myself in his shoes, and it seems to me he is a fun-loving sort of a guy. He has humour too. It is also important to realise that he has a long-term perspective, and a day or even year in human life means little to him. It is also my experience that he helps those who do their best for themselves. Or in other words, treating him as a wish-fulfilment machine just won't work.
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Posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 9:59:51
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by undopaminergic on March 7, 2021, at 7:21:00
I think it depends. If you are asking to get laid tonight and never call her again, it may be considered an asinine request. But if you are in great pain or asking for more noble things, more likely.
Or in other words, treating him as a wish-fulfilment machine just won't work.
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Posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 10:22:28
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 9:59:51
He has his own schedule, too. Sometimes patience is needed.
Posted by undopaminergic on March 7, 2021, at 10:58:26
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 10:22:28
> He has his own schedule, too. Sometimes patience is needed.
Eternity is his schedule...
It's hard to know whether he is rejecting your requests (prayers) or is just taking his time, or maybe he knows your problem will be resolved in the future without his help, maybe through your own efforts.
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Posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 13:38:17
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by undopaminergic on March 7, 2021, at 10:58:26
Well it is hard to know anything about God... Personally, I don't think "turn the other cheek" is a good rule. It just perpetuates abuse and saying that to people is a good way of keeping them under control. Am I wrong?
Posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 2:37:57
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2021, at 13:38:17
> Well it is hard to know anything about God... Personally, I don't think "turn the other cheek" is a good rule. It just perpetuates abuse and saying that to people is a good way of keeping them under control. Am I wrong?
>I don't think so, but if everyone did it, all would be great.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 4:37:24
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 2:37:57
Evil people won't.
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Posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 4:44:48
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 4:37:24
I think all would be great if the cheeks remained unscathed!
Posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 5:28:02
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 4:37:24
Note that I said "if".
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Posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 5:30:18
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 4:44:48
> I think all would be great if the cheeks remained unscathed!
If everyone was as pacifistic as Jesus, then no cheeks would be getting hit or even slapped.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 6:38:08
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 5:30:18
Yeah, but what if we germans turn the other cheek to our government? We will still have to do social distancing in 5 years.
Posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 7:18:38
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 6:38:08
> Yeah, but what if we germans turn the other cheek to our government? We will still have to do social distancing in 5 years.
>I didn't understand that.
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Posted by Lamdage22 on March 8, 2021, at 12:10:57
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by undopaminergic on March 8, 2021, at 7:18:38
The corona management is very poor in Germany. First, no masks, then no vaccinations and now no quick tests. The government is failing all the time.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 2:45:39
In reply to I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by jay2112 on February 26, 2021, at 0:31:43
Ok, suicidal crisis. I would strongly recommend Lithium as a supplement!!! There is no harm in trying. At least not with a low dose. Even if you are not at risk of doing it, these thoughts really hurt!
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 2:47:27
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis..., posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 2:45:39
I would try for a week or two. For me the effect was quicker, but you never know
Posted by jay2112 on March 11, 2021, at 4:51:25
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis..., posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 2:45:39
> Ok, suicidal crisis. I would strongly recommend Lithium as a supplement!!! There is no harm in trying. At least not with a low dose. Even if you are not at risk of doing it, these thoughts really hurt!
I tried all doses of lithium, on it's own..etc...and it is hit and miss...one day works...next week blah. And, it KILLS my stomach!! I end up vomiting blood, almost EVERYTIME I take it..with/without food, with gravol/drammamine, ginger...nothing stops it!!
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 7:07:02
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis... » Lamdage22, posted by jay2112 on March 11, 2021, at 4:51:25
Oh... so you didnt feel less suicidal? Nothing works for everybody unfortunately. It is a tough feeling, but hang in there. I got over it for the most part. What other avenues are you working on?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 7:10:50
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis..., posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 7:07:02
How is your nutrition? Sun exposure? Sometimes when nothing works the culprit is a lack (or less often an excess) of nutrients. Even with a normal diet.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 12, 2021, at 2:13:34
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis..., posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2021, at 7:10:50
You can't fix a lack of certain nutrients with meds. Not long term. And it is more prevalent than most people think, especially if you are not healthy. Clearly, depression usually leads to an unhealthy lifestyle, which worsens the problem even more.
Posted by SLS on April 6, 2021, at 16:53:57
In reply to I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea, posted by jay2112 on February 26, 2021, at 0:31:43
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> Hi folks...I lost my little dog a week or so ago. I had told myself, once he goes, I am going too. I had enough of this life.. :( I have been coping bad...taking handfulls of Tylenol 3's, and handfulls of Lytica (mood stabalizer....feels good in high doses. O just want to kill the pain...too much damn life and death!!! Bit, I am going to the rehab clinic and going on Suboxone. Then I am going to get a kitten....then maybe a part-time jib. These are the bare threads I am hanging onto. I am 51...it's harder as you get o;der. Am I on the right track? Onr day at a time, and baby-steps? I lost a girlfriend, child, best friend (suicide) and then my parents 7 years ago.
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> Jay (deeply, deeply, sad....)First of all, you should look at what you have already experienced. If you have ever been in this suicidal state before, then you know, one way or another, the worst of it will pass. Hopefully, you won't feel yourself being drawn towards suicide anymore. It will pass, I guarantee it. You might still feel crappy, but for now, crappy is better than feeling that suicide is inevitable. It's not. Try to keep your anxiety level as low as possible. Maybe you can figure out what thoughts are best to avoid or not take seriously. Avoid anxiety and thoughts that overwhelm you. Do things that either distract you from your negative thoughts or that genuinely put a smile on your face.
Easier said than done! I've done it, though.
Zyprexa, in my silly opinion, can be used as an emergency anti-suicide drug, but use it as a very temporary treatment strategy.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 22, 2021, at 10:02:21
In reply to Re: I am going through a suicidal crisis....help, plea » jay2112, posted by SLS on April 6, 2021, at 16:53:57
That sounds much more positive now. Glad you are better, SLS! I agree with you, it does pass.
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