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Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 23, 2015, at 11:22:53
(Sorry Bob..accidentally posted in social) After a year and a half or so when I lost my Mom, I lost Dad a few months ago .My life fell to crap. A doctor put me on lithium one week before my Dad's funeral. I got hired in a 'dream job', and screwed that so bad by feeling scared to leave the house, or go anywhere except my bed. Honestly I was like a major junkie.....could barely take care of myself. I was having constant SI's. When I was at work...I would sit there in a daze..unable to do my job. (Working with kids with autism) So just after a few months, they fired me (probation period). I did feel a bit of relief being able to go home to bed and sleep. So, doc d\c lithium, upped my benzo dose, and most amazingly, put me on a high dose of Lyrica (300 x3 daily. After the first few days on it, I actually felt myself able to relax a bit, clean up, and not be so damned worried. It has been over a week now, and I feel 'fine', not 'high' or anything. I now go out...grocery shop (for me and my sweet little dog). I didn't think I'd make it..before Lyrica I was always cold and frozen, even with the heat cranked right up. It was terrifying. My body was in high gear, and I was actually freezing calories off my body from shivering so much...and I barely moved a leg.
I am the executor, and I have left so much undone and behind. See, I was deeply close with my parents all my life. We supported each other, and had amazing philosophical talks underneath the stars, and had so much to laugh and enjoy. Everything was done out of love. But, that is not the way this stupid, f**ked up world operates. And so I cry for so much of the beauty that is gone. "Silence all the songbirds, stilled by the killing frost. Forests turned to ashes, everything is lost.." There is never love without pain...so damned true. Please, no more tears tonight.
p.s. I am also trying Saffron..for sex side effects of Prozac. Will report back. :)
~Jay
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 23, 2015, at 11:39:59
In reply to The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers), posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 23, 2015, at 11:22:53
Hi Jay,
What a lot you've been through lately. Parents you're close to mean such a lot. People you can truly rely on. In a time like this, you need support... do you have friends who understand? People you can talk to? A partner maybe?
>saffron
Did you read my thread above?! :)
Posted by Tomatheus on January 23, 2015, at 11:56:52
In reply to The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers), posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 23, 2015, at 11:22:53
Jay,
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. The loss of a loved one with whom you've shared many fond memories can definitely leave a void, and I don't think it's ever easy to lose someone close to you who's touched your life in so many good ways. My thoughts are with you in this difficult time for you.
Tomatheus
Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 19:58:31
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers), posted by ed_uk2010 on January 23, 2015, at 11:39:59
> Hi Jay,
>
> What a lot you've been through lately. Parents you're close to mean such a lot. People you can truly rely on. In a time like this, you need support... do you have friends who understand? People you can talk to? A partner maybe?
>
> >saffron
>
> Did you read my thread above?! :)Hi Ed...
Thanks so much for the kind and empathetic words. I do have a brother thankfully who is supportive...as I am of him...but he is married with 2 grown kids, and I hate to say it, bur he seems much more at ease with it all. Plus he runs his own profitable business and money for life. I am still trying to find a decent or any paying job. I am single...45...but try very very hard. I know many people who have it as bad or worse.
I have a small life insurance policy my Dad left for me, and I am living on that. Applying for jobs anywhere on the net. Can I put myself up for adoption? lol. The saffron...weird..but I can only find it in 400mg doses. I take 3-4 a day, and it helps as an add-on. It has only been a week. How about you?Thanks..Jay
>
>
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 20:07:41
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » ed_uk2010, posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 19:58:31
Hi Jay,
>Can I put myself up for adoption? lol.
I knew of someone who advertised for a wife online... and got one. Not sure it was a great success though...
>The saffron...weird..but I can only find it in 400mg doses. I take 3-4 a day, and it helps as an add-on. It has only been a week.
The 400mg must be the amount of saffron used. The 15mg refers to the amount of extract. For example if the extract was 1 in 6, 15mg of extract would be produced from 90mg of saffron.
Do your capsules have a recommended dose? I imagine they should be one a day.
What effect have you noticed so far? I just started mine so haven't noticed anything yet. I'm hoping for less anxiety mainly.
Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 21:12:15
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers) » JayOriginal2nd, posted by Tomatheus on January 23, 2015, at 11:56:52
> Jay,
>
> I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. The loss of a loved one with whom you've shared many fond memories can definitely leave a void, and I don't think it's ever easy to lose someone close to you who's touched your life in so many good ways. My thoughts are with you in this difficult time for you.
>
> TomatheusHi Tomatheus:
Thank you for the kind comments and empathy. I have been reading books by people who have lost one or more very close persons, and am now
re-reading "Ghost Rider" by Neil Peart, and "The Heart Does Break". Memories can be so haunting, and so good too. True...there is NEVER..love without pain.Thanks,
Jay
Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 21:17:31
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » JayOriginal2nd, posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 20:07:41
> Hi Jay,
>
> >Can I put myself up for adoption? lol.
>
> I knew of someone who advertised for a wife online... and got one. Not sure it was a great success though...
>
> >The saffron...weird..but I can only find it in 400mg doses. I take 3-4 a day, and it helps as an add-on. It has only been a week.
>
> The 400mg must be the amount of saffron used. The 15mg refers to the amount of extract. For example if the extract was 1 in 6, 15mg of extract would be produced from 90mg of saffron.
>
> Do your capsules have a recommended dose? I imagine they should be one a day.
>
> What effect have you noticed so far? I just started mine so haven't noticed anything yet. I'm hoping for less anxiety mainly.
>
Yes the Saffron is 2-3 tablets daily. I am trying tonight to take with meds at bedtime. Will post any changes. Thanks for the initial post about Saffron, too. Let me know how you make out as well.Jay
Posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2015, at 21:41:48
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » ed_uk2010, posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 21:17:31
Jay hi, no more working with kids? I thought you were last time you posted. Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 25, 2015, at 4:41:07
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » ed_uk2010, posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 24, 2015, at 21:17:31
>Thanks for the initial post about Saffron, too. Let me know how you make out as well.
You're welcome, and I will.
I looked into what side effects may occur with saffron. It seems that minor side effects are common but serious reactions are rare. Headaches, nausea and reduced appetite were reported frequently with a similar incidence to SSRIs. Increased appetite was reported less commonly. Sexual dysfunction was only a problem with SSRIs, not saffron. As with SSRIs, some pts seemed to have an initial increase in anxiety at the start of saffron treatment. Anxiety was then reduced after a few weeks. It appears than saffron may reduce blood pressure.
Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 25, 2015, at 12:52:55
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » JayOriginal2nd, posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2015, at 21:41:48
> Jay hi, no more working with kids? I thought you were last time you posted. Phillipa
Yes, kids with autism, who are very difficult to work with....people think they are all sweet and all, until you get spat on, had sh*t (yes the real stuff) thrown at you, been bitten and scratched very hard, punched and kicked. I am looking at a couple of other fields which are less stressful and pay better. Plus all of thr woman I worked with where 20 something kids who just thought I was some 'unhip' middled aged man...they where snots.
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on January 25, 2015, at 17:43:04
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » Phillipa, posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 25, 2015, at 12:52:55
Jay sorry it didn't work out for you. Phillipa
Posted by zonked on January 29, 2015, at 0:21:19
In reply to The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers), posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 23, 2015, at 11:22:53
Grief is a bitch. I think I would have fallen apart just as well, and as hard, no matter HOW optimized my med regime is (or isn't), after my mother's death (she was my best friend, I posted sporadically in here while I was taking care of her before she died... brain cancer, that ultimately caused dementia, and eventually, death.)
Still pretty new to the whole thing, but I'm finding the only thing that really helps grief is time. I had a nasty experience with lithium myself - I think a lot of doctors like to use it in crisis because some well-regarded (but probably dusty, and ancient, now) studies show it reducing suicide rates better than anything else (then) available.
All it did in 2 months was give me a headache and make me feel cranky and fuzzy. Did nothing for my affect.
-z
> (Sorry Bob..accidentally posted in social) After a year and a half or so when I lost my Mom, I lost Dad a few months ago .My life fell to crap. A doctor put me on lithium one week before my Dad's funeral. I got hired in a 'dream job', and screwed that so bad by feeling scared to leave the house, or go anywhere except my bed. Honestly I was like a major junkie.....could barely take care of myself. I was having constant SI's. When I was at work...I would sit there in a daze..unable to do my job. (Working with kids with autism) So just after a few months, they fired me (probation period). I did feel a bit of relief being able to go home to bed and sleep. So, doc d\c lithium, upped my benzo dose, and most amazingly, put me on a high dose of Lyrica (300 x3 daily. After the first few days on it, I actually felt myself able to relax a bit, clean up, and not be so damned worried. It has been over a week now, and I feel 'fine', not 'high' or anything. I now go out...grocery shop (for me and my sweet little dog). I didn't think I'd make it..before Lyrica I was always cold and frozen, even with the heat cranked right up. It was terrifying. My body was in high gear, and I was actually freezing calories off my body from shivering so much...and I barely moved a leg.
>
> I am the executor, and I have left so much undone and behind. See, I was deeply close with my parents all my life. We supported each other, and had amazing philosophical talks underneath the stars, and had so much to laugh and enjoy. Everything was done out of love. But, that is not the way this stupid, f**ked up world operates. And so I cry for so much of the beauty that is gone. "Silence all the songbirds, stilled by the killing frost. Forests turned to ashes, everything is lost.." There is never love without pain...so damned true. Please, no more tears tonight.
>
> p.s. I am also trying Saffron..for sex side effects of Prozac. Will report back. :)
> ~Jay
Posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 29, 2015, at 21:04:11
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » JayOriginal2nd, posted by Phillipa on January 25, 2015, at 17:43:04
Phillipa...what I pretty much thank God for is pharmacology. Yes, some meds can f*ck you up bad, but there are a lot, especially multi-drug use and wild combo's that do bring a beautiful release. How are you doing?
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on January 29, 2015, at 21:56:21
In reply to Re: The Fine Art of Falling Apart (Triggers). » Phillipa, posted by JayOriginal2nd on January 29, 2015, at 21:04:11
Jay wishing I were 20 years younger as was born too early. Then would still be working and at my best. Phillipa
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