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Posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
i stopped taking meds today, except adderall, and only took one dose of that.
about 2-3 hours ago i noticed my fingers and arms feel swollen.is this because i went off meds? i just can't believe i would have such a strange side effect after only 15 hours after missed dose.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2015, at 6:41:18
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
> i stopped taking meds today, except adderall, and only took one dose of that.
> about 2-3 hours ago i noticed my fingers and arms feel swollen.
>
> is this because i went off meds? i just can't believe i would have such a strange side effect after only 15 hours after missed dose.
>
b2,
You wrote,[...I stopped taking meds today...is this because I went off meds?..].
When someone takes mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there could be a warning somewhere in the collaboration that stopping the drugs abruptly could have dire consequences to the taker of these drugs. If there is not a warning by the prescriber, including that one could kill themselves and/or others when they are in a state of cessation from taking these drugs, that is a separate issue from what you have posted here.
But be it as it may be, the grammatical structure of your statement could lead readers to think that you stopped psychiatric drugs suddenly after years of taking them as could be seen in the record of your posts here and since there is not a reference by you to as to if your prescriber has knowledge of your stopping the drugs, then readers could think that you are stopping the drugs without approval from your prescriber. That could then deny the prescriber an opportunity to collaborate with you to withdrawal from these drugs which potentially could lead to your death or the deaths of others.
You see, the effects of withdrawal from these drugs could be delayed and come out as time runs. They could lead to suicide.
Now your prescriber of these drugs could or could not have the knowledge needed to help you through the cessation of these drugs. It has been revealed to me that the state of being in withdrawal from these drugs could be like being in a raging sea, tossed to and fro with mire and dirt being cast upon you. And then you could see a beast come out of the sea.
I am prevented by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung that IMHHHO could lead people in withdrawal who are in the raging sea to stand on a sea of glass, calm and still. You could have your prescriber enter this forum and have dialog with me here and then I could explain how one could be led to be beside the still waters, out of the raging sea, comforted and free from the shackles of addiction.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2015, at 9:36:51
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
Honestly no idea? Call you regular doc? Phillipa
Posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 10:02:37
In reply to Lou's warning-pstlwtrs » b2chica, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2015, at 6:41:18
Lou, I am very curious as to your incessant need to restate the question, recapitulate the statement, make extreme assumptions as to what that phrase meant, and assume to know how others may or may not respond to the original post? Rather than such (in my opinion) inane responses to my posts. I would appreciate either a comment pertaining to the question at hand rather than a surmise of the post itself or else none at all.
Good Day.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2015, at 13:00:29
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-pstlwtrs, posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 10:02:37
> Lou, I am very curious as to your incessant need to restate the question, recapitulate the statement, make extreme assumptions as to what that phrase meant, and assume to know how others may or may not respond to the original post? Rather than such (in my opinion) inane responses to my posts. I would appreciate either a comment pertaining to the question at hand rather than a surmise of the post itself or else none at all.
> Good Day.b2,
What is an example of an extreme assumption and an example of an inane response? If you could post answers here to those questions, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Lou
Posted by phidippus on January 6, 2015, at 16:23:33
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
Have you ever considered you are a hypochondriac?
Eric
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 6, 2015, at 17:53:02
In reply to Re: swelling in hands... » b2chica, posted by phidippus on January 6, 2015, at 16:23:33
> Have you ever considered you are a hypochondriac?
>
> EricFriends,
It is no great honor to come to the defense of another member here. But it is a greater need that I have to save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions here. And if there is any chance that what is written here about b2 could cause her to drop down into a vortex of depression as considering that she is an inferior person that is a hypochondriac and be shamed by thinking that others could consider to be one, then note my objection and note my outrage that what can be seen here that has IMHO the potential to lead someone to kill themselves.
The poster b2, has a real concern as can be seen by the fact that she is attempting to stop taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with either a psychiatrist/doctor or some other prescriber as can be seen in her posts. There is a rational basis for her to wonder if what she feels in her hands is from stopping the drugs because one came after the other. And the concern is real just as if constipation came after the cessation of the drugs. But it is much more than that. For the statement in question could IMHO derail her efforts to withdrawal from the drugs if she is to consider that what she feels about her hands is not real and kill herself. Not far-fetched as one in the state of withdrawal from these drugs could find themselves in a horrific state like being in a raging sea. There is so much happening in this state that one could be tossed to and fro in such a way as to be killed. For in this state, one could use a life-preserver for they could be helpless in the mighty sea of death. For the raging sea can take down the person into the depths of despair. Despair so great that grown men and women kill themselves in the raging sea.
There can be the feeling of swelling in this state. There can be totally irrational happenings in this state. You see, I know what is actually happening in the person during withdrawing from these drugs. This is beyond psychiatry/psychology. And there can be real happenings to the person that others could think are unreal. You see, the drugs create a network of communication with the neurons in the brain. And when this is disrupted, either by taking the drugs or stopping the drugs, parts of the brain because of the disruption become short-circuited and jump to other parts of the brain and activate that part when it is not supposed to. That is why a hallucination could occur. One could see something or feel something that is not there due to the jump of the communication from an errant neuron to another part of the brain. One could smell colors. But the hallucination is real in that the person does feel or see it. And all of this is the beginning of sorrows. For the beast that comes out of the sea that I have been talking about here can happen when the drugs are stopped. And the beast has been revealed to me to be death, a living death.
I am prevented from posting here how one can not be harmed by the beast and the raging sea due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. But if a provider of these drugs enters this forum and had dialog with me, I think that I could bring this out through the doctor/psychiatrist in our dialog here. My thrust in the dialog would focus on the communication of the brain's neurons and how the disruption in the brain could be reset.
Lou
Posted by Zyprexa on January 7, 2015, at 0:25:28
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
Best way to find out is by taking the meds again and see if it goes away.
Posted by Tomatheus on January 7, 2015, at 1:20:42
In reply to Re: swelling in hands..., posted by Zyprexa on January 7, 2015, at 0:25:28
> Best way to find out is by taking the meds again and see if it goes away.
All I have to say is that I wholeheartedly agree with you, Zyprexa.
Tomatheus
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 7, 2015, at 8:46:46
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
> i stopped taking meds today, except adderall, and only took one dose of that.
> about 2-3 hours ago i noticed my fingers and arms feel swollen.
>
> is this because i went off meds? i just can't believe i would have such a strange side effect after only 15 hours after missed dose.Weren't you on regular Xanax? Anxiety, panic, insomnia, nausea, sweating (especially during sleep), tremor and perceptual disturbances are common after missed doses in anyone who's taken a large dose regularly. Perceptual disturbances may include feelings of numbness in the skin, oversensitivity of the skin, tingling feelings, dizziness and sensations of movement and exaggerated sense of smell.
Like the others say, symptoms should disappear on restating the meds. It's very unlikely that your hands are swollen... they just feel it. If you want to reduce the other meds you'll probably need to do so gradually.
Hope this helps.
Posted by Phil on January 7, 2015, at 9:38:54
In reply to swelling in hands..., posted by b2chica on January 5, 2015, at 0:28:01
I had a physical a few weeks ago and told my doctor that my feet and ankles were swelling. He said to eat foods high in potassium and take a supplement. I did and have no more swelling.
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