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Posted by porkpiehat on June 2, 2014, at 11:27:15
My pdoc has put me on 20mgs of Vyvanse to offset the apathy/demotivation/anhedonia I'm getting from Brintellix.
My dreams seem to be getting worse and I wake up shaky and confused.
Does this seem like a safe way to deal with AD-induced apathy, or a dangerous road to go down? I keep telling myself "today I won't take any vyvanse" but I end up doing it anyway for focus or motivation, or escape from the wiggy feeling.
Posted by tom2228 on June 2, 2014, at 15:56:32
In reply to Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by porkpiehat on June 2, 2014, at 11:27:15
They're actually now testing Vyvanse as an adjunct in unipolar depression without ADHD. I believe it's still in Phase 2.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24021497
A randomized controlled trial of the efficacy and safety of lisdexamfetamine dimesylate as augmentation therapy in adults with residual symptoms of major depressive disorder after treatment with escitalopram.Touching upon safety, another study (Lisdexamfetamine dimesylate augmentation in adults with persistent executive dysfunction after partial or full remission of major depressive disorder.; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24309905 ) concluded:
"In this trial, LDX augmentation significantly improved executive dysfunction and depressive symptoms in participants with mild MDD. The safety profile of LDX was consistent with prior studies in adults with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder."
I think these sleep issues can be expected as amphetamines, like antidepressants, affect sleep cycles. While it's not the same, I had horrible nightmares when using street meth.
How long have you been taking the Vyvanse? Stimulants can be a little rough to adjust to at first. I have been taking them for 7 years and barely notice them (but therapeutic effects totally there). When your mind recognizes the helpful impact they have on your life, your brain adjusts accordingly and allows you to tolerate them better.
If anything Vyvanse would probably be the safest form of therapeutic amphetamine. I understand your sentiment about not wanting to take it, but you shouldn't feel bad about getting the help you need. It's legitimate treatment that you have a right to receive and hence it's available in this country and recommended by your doctor. You deserve to feel better!!
Posted by tom2228 on June 2, 2014, at 15:56:55
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by tom2228 on June 2, 2014, at 15:56:32
And what happened to the Ritalin?
Posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2014, at 18:01:27
In reply to Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by porkpiehat on June 2, 2014, at 11:27:15
If it lasts 24 hours and don't know this then It would make sense to me that it might do this? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2014, at 18:06:53
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse? » porkpiehat, posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2014, at 18:01:27
trouble with sleep.
Posted by phidippus on June 4, 2014, at 23:38:12
In reply to Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by porkpiehat on June 2, 2014, at 11:27:15
20 MG IS A RELATIVELY LOW DOSE OF VYVANSE. YOUR RISK OF ADDICTION IS LOW AND ADVERSE EFFECTS SHOULD BE MINIMAL.
ERIC
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 6, 2014, at 8:05:29
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse? » porkpiehat, posted by phidippus on June 4, 2014, at 23:38:12
It made a former friend of mine aggressive.
Posted by tom2228 on June 6, 2014, at 9:01:04
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by Lamdage22 on June 6, 2014, at 8:05:29
> It made a former friend of mine aggressive.
Stimulant medications generally keep me calm as they increase my ability to regulate myself -- my thoughts, emotions, and behaviors.
Posted by Phillipa on June 6, 2014, at 9:40:28
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse?, posted by tom2228 on June 6, 2014, at 9:01:04
Tom I would think this means you are truly adhd? Phillipa
Posted by tom2228 on June 6, 2014, at 9:47:24
In reply to Re: Bad dreams and tough waking on vyvanse? » tom2228, posted by Phillipa on June 6, 2014, at 9:40:28
> Tom I would think this means you are truly adhd? Phillipa
I believe I am, but I don't think this reactions is entirely exclusive to ADHD. For example, Vyvanse is being studied in binge eating disorder, the premise being not only that the drug would have an advantageous effect on appetite, but would also help people regulate their feelings and emotions so that they are more able to inhibit their behaviors of eating to manage how they feel.
I think this has something to do with the effect of dextroamphetamine on the prefrontal cortex and other higher-order structures in the brain. Like CBT, if we can become more aware of our feelings and thoughts, we can learn to change them or regulate them in order to change our behavior patterns.
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