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Posted by Babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 18:05:30
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2014, at 15:40:37
Hi, I'm not currently on Remeron but I have tried both of those without any luck
Posted by Babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 18:07:16
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2014, at 17:53:42
Wow you know a lot. I eat salmon about 3 or 4 times a week. Shouldn't that take care of my Omega 3 needs
Posted by linkadge on May 31, 2014, at 21:33:40
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 18:05:30
Have you tried the combination (i.e. all together)?
remeron + magnesium + time release melatonin + benzo (or taurine)?
None of these work (for me) independently...
Failing this, you might ask about lithium.
Linkadge
Posted by phidippus on May 31, 2014, at 22:09:25
In reply to Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 4:34:23
I've suffered from insomnia all my life. Seroquel is my go to for sleep. Marijuana can help too.
Eric
Posted by Babbler20 on June 1, 2014, at 1:11:54
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2014, at 21:33:40
Remeron alone does it for me. I'm just trying to a void remeron if I can because of the weight gain issue
Posted by Babbler20 on June 1, 2014, at 1:13:48
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » babbler20, posted by phidippus on May 31, 2014, at 22:09:25
It's the worst. Is there anything other than seroquel or weed that worked for you? Weed doesn't help me get restful sleep and makes me retarded. Seroquel isn't a good option for me either
Posted by gadchik on June 1, 2014, at 6:35:41
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on June 1, 2014, at 1:13:48
I would go to a sleep specialist and have a sleep study done.
Posted by linkadge on June 1, 2014, at 7:47:58
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Babbler20, posted by gadchik on June 1, 2014, at 6:35:41
I haven't gained weight on remeron, but mind you I drink a lot of coffee, green tea and cocoa.
Linkadge
Posted by Hugh on June 1, 2014, at 16:05:26
In reply to Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 4:34:23
For many years, I had a choice between 7-9 hours of drugged sleep and 3-5 hours of "natural" sleep. I opted for drugged sleep much of the time. First Unisom, then Benadryl, then trazodone, Remeron, Ambien, Xanax, and finally lorazepam. I took lorazepam almost every night for three years, until I started to suffer horribly from benzo tolerance, dependence and withdrawal.
Suvorexant is a sleeping pill that has a completely different mechanism of action than anything on the market. It basically gives you narcolepsy for several hours. It was expected to be approved by the FDA last year, but the FDA told Merck to reduce the dosages they were planning to offer. Suvorexant is still expected to be approved, but it might take another year or two.
UCM765 is an experimental drug that promises to be the best sleeping pill ever, greatly increasing the time spent in deep, stage four sleep. But it might not be available for another ten years.
A few months ago I accidentally discovered that putting an electric heating pad on my back for 20-30 minutes just before I go to bed significantly improves my sleep. I recently posted this about it:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20131226/msgs/1065521.html
Posted by Phillipa on June 1, 2014, at 19:50:50
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Hugh on June 1, 2014, at 16:05:26
Hugh it helps. But if I'm anxiously obsessing on something I do need benzos. The heat relaxes when reading. But still need the benzos. Some of us always will to like me. I'm accepting this. P
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 1, 2014, at 20:04:52
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Hugh, posted by Phillipa on June 1, 2014, at 19:50:50
Could I suggest rotating sleep meds - say, take a benzo or z drug one night, then a small dose of seroquel the next night, then z benzo, then seroquel etc
This should help to avoid problams of tolorance
Posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 0:04:11
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by linkadge on June 1, 2014, at 7:47:58
That's awesome. You're lucky
Posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 0:06:31
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Hugh on June 1, 2014, at 16:05:26
We'll it sounds like I'll be waiting for a decade to sleep. I actually tried the heating pad for a few weeks, but it wasn't any help.
Posted by vbs on June 2, 2014, at 2:35:55
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 0:06:31
Insomnia really sucks. I have only been getting a few hours of sleep nightly lately. This cannot be healthy.
Posted by Chris O on June 2, 2014, at 3:07:14
In reply to Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 4:34:23
I can totally relate! I don't think I've slept more than a couple hours at a time for over twenty years. I got a CPAP machine for sleep apnea two years ago, and it has helped somewhat, but not much. I think most of my constant awakenings are from my anxiety disorder. Have you been tested for sleep apnea?
Chris
Posted by Hugh on June 2, 2014, at 10:56:22
In reply to Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by babbler20 on May 31, 2014, at 4:34:23
I listened to an interview with the scientist who conducted this study. He said several bed manufacturers had contacted him for information on this bed.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/rocking-increases-brain-activity-as-11-06-20/
Posted by Hugh on June 2, 2014, at 11:26:55
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 0:06:31
Sorry to hear the heating pad didn't help you. The list of things that haven't helped my depression, anxiety, insomnia is very long. The list of things that have helped is very short.
Posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 23:03:22
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » babbler20, posted by Chris O on June 2, 2014, at 3:07:14
Wow that's bad. I have been tested and don't have apnea, but I do have horrible anxiety. If you haven't tried Remeron and don't mind gaining a few pounds, that will solve your problem.
Posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 23:05:46
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Hugh on June 2, 2014, at 10:56:22
Thanks, time to put a hammock in my living room and see what happens. I've tried everything else so why not
Posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 23:07:45
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Babbler20, posted by Hugh on June 2, 2014, at 11:26:55
Same here. The funny thing is that insomnia is the best thing for anxiety and depression. When you don't sleep you aren't really aware of how bad it is. When you do, sleep and are more alert, it's scary.
Posted by Hugh on June 3, 2014, at 9:51:46
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 23:05:46
> Thanks, time to put a hammock in my living room and see what happens. I've tried everything else so why not
Don't forget to hire someone to rock it all night.
Posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2014, at 21:28:08
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Babbler20, posted by Hugh on June 3, 2014, at 9:51:46
How nice that would be. Loved this when a toddler!!!
Posted by gadchik on June 4, 2014, at 6:12:19
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else?, posted by Babbler20 on June 2, 2014, at 23:05:46
Thanks, time to put a hammock in my living room and see what happens. I've tried everything else so why not
The best Ive ever slept was on a ship, in rough seas, believe it or not!! The constant rocking all night was very soothing!
Posted by Hugh on June 4, 2014, at 9:07:03
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Hugh, posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2014, at 21:28:08
> How nice that would be. Loved this when a toddler!!!
We can have it again, if and when rocking beds hit the market.
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2014, at 20:44:57
In reply to Re: Chronic Insomnia-Anyone else? » Phillipa, posted by Hugh on June 4, 2014, at 9:07:03
Well getting older so second childhood!!!
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