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Posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 18:33:42
so I've been on Risperdal .25 for about two weeks now but started out at only 1/4 for about 3 to 4 days before increasing each time. So totally on the full dose of .25 probably about two weeks now. I was feeling super good too but then started having a lot of body tension stuff like my muscles are so tense that I could not relax them. About the same time though I was lowering the dose of a beta blocker to see if that was causing the problems instead because it was also a new dose of the beta blocker for me too. I didn't think to try one at a time so now I don't know which caused which. I only know that I am having a lot of rebound anxiety from the beta blocker and it is raising my blood pressure a lot so may have to just go back on that till next Dr. visit.
How ever my biggest concern is what is causing all the body tension for about two weeks now that not even my valium has helped one single bit! It was starting about 1 to 2 hours in the morning after the beta blocker so that is why I thought it was from that.
So last night I did not take Risperdal and today I felt so much better with the body tension which really feels like I tightening up every single muscle in my body when in fact I am not doing anything to them but they are doing it on its own dispite my greatest effort to make it stop!
now I'm worried that maybe I got that Tardive thing or something else from the Risperdal and it wont ever go away or does it? Please help to settle my fears I'm scared to death.
Today was a horrible day off the ripserdal, how can it stop working so well in just one lousy day? I'm right back to ripping off peoples head, cant stand myself..
Posted by poser938 on April 21, 2014, at 19:16:06
In reply to seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 18:33:42
I'm not fully well read on all things Tar dive Dyskinesia, but I've actually had an antidepressant cause uncontrollable muscle movements (Effexor), and I had fully warning about it before it became permanent. When I had first moved Effexor up to 150mgs, muscles in my face started tensing up on their own. But I had figured "surely this can't be TD, only antipsychotics can cause that right?". But I kept taking it and yup, its been stuck with me since 2006 now. I believe AD's cause TD because Serotonin suppresses Dopamine release, eventually leading to the dopamine system becoming "supersensitive" after chronic use.
Anyway, back to your question about Risperdal. Your experience sounds much like my dads when he was prescribed an antipsychotic. (Can't remember which one) but i think he only took it at most 2 days before he stopped taking it due to his muscles tensing up. If I were you, I wouldn't continue messing around with the possibility of making your involuntary muscle movements permanent. That could disable you if it got too bad.
There may be a better AP you could try with less risk of TD. Maybe your psychiatrist or someone else on Babble has a better idea for one. Maybe Abilify?
Posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 20:04:56
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by poser938 on April 21, 2014, at 19:16:06
well gosh it all sounds so scary. I thought it took years to develop TD or TK which ever one it is now that I've forgotten. I've been on Risperdal a total of a little over a month now. I thought that it was after years and I thought that it was higher doses and I'm only on .25 I asked the psych nurse and she told me to wait till I see the psych Dr. May 16th so now I'm just stuck not knowing if it CAN CAUSE this horrible yucky feeling or what. I'm sorry you got it, I've read a lot about it and it sounds really depilating. I hope you are doing well though.
Posted by poser938 on April 21, 2014, at 20:32:47
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 20:04:56
My situation isn't nearly as horrible as some I've read about.
Its pretty much unnoticeable to anyone else. But some of the muscles in my face feel pretty sore sometimes.I believe your nurse should have treated this more urgently. She should have at least gone ahead and mentioned this to your doctor, and then gotten back to you on what he/she said.
Sometimes the best thing to do is go with your gut. If you can mentally handle being without Risperdal right now, I wouldn't take another dose. Or if you really need it, cut the pill in half, or even smaller. I'm pretty sure Risperdal can be cut in half without affecting its absorption, as long as its not an extended release pill. But you could check with a pharmacist to make sure it can be cut in half without its absorption being affected, if you'd like.
Posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 20:35:42
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by poser938 on April 21, 2014, at 20:32:47
I was concerned about taking it tonight but I'm also concerned about just cold turkey so I thought I would take half of it tonight and titrate off it till May when I see the actual Dr. next month. I'm glad you are doing ok with all this and didn't get it as bad as others that I've read about, what a horrible thing to get from others that I read. can you do a law suit? I would but maybe not hard to say.
Posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 6:44:27
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 20:35:42
Does anyone.have any idea on this.body.tension stuff.and if it is related to rispersal if it sounds like tk?
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2014, at 10:59:24
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 6:44:27
> Does anyone.have any idea on this.body.tension stuff.and if it is related to rispersal if it sounds like tk?
iowamoo
You wrote[...Does anyone have any idea...].
The tragic consequences that could happen to those taking psychotropic drugs is something that I do have a great knowledge concerning the history,the development, and the purpose and use of mind-altering chemicals.
But there are prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung that prevent me from posting what I think could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and free you from what could shackle you to a lifetime of slavery to addicting drugs that could lead to your death.
I am also prohibited by Mr. Hsiung to post how these drug's chemical constituents were used in mass-murder and the relationship historically of psychiatry to genocide. All of which if those prohibitions were not made to me I could educate you about the drug in question and how you could make your own determination as to take the drug or not. And because the information from me is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here a subset of readers could remain ignorant of what I could have posted if the prohibitions were not made and be persuaded to think concerning the drug just what Mr.Hsiung allows to be posted. A subset of readers, then could be uninformed, and it is so easy to persuade the uninformed.
And what I could post here that I think could save your life could come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here that a subset of readers could think is an anti-Semitic policy.
And if one sees anti-Semitic statements being allowed to stand here by Mr. Hsiung, there could be a subset of readers that could have hatred toward Jews induced into them that could lead to those readers killing themselves and/or others and even commit mass-murder.
I want you to know that you can be saved from the horrors that could befall you from this drug. ButI can not post how that can be done here,and I am so sorry my friend.
Lou
Posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 11:24:34
In reply to Lou's response-psopsarerry » iowamoo, posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2014, at 10:59:24
Well heck I want to know! I love the way I feel on rispersal but I get scared taking it no doubt and that's why I'm staying at my tiny dose as long as it works. Would you say these same things about lamictal? I wish diet, exercisE, vitamins etc works help but they don't. Thanks for all this and I doubt care about the Jew part as I judge no one.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2014, at 11:50:49
In reply to Re: Lou's response-psopsarerry, posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 11:27:21
> Well heck I want to know! I love the way I feel on rispersal but I get scared taking it no doubt and that's why I'm staying at my tiny dose as long as it works. Would you say these same things about lamictal? I wish diet, exercisE, vitamins etc works help but they don't. Thanks for all this and I doubt care about the Jew part as I judge no one.
iowamoo,
You wrote,[...I {don't) care about the Jew part as (I) judge no one...].
But it is much more than that.
Here is a post that is allowed to be seen as being conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of this community, and as supportive and as it will be good for this community as a whole. And later I will post how the allowing of the post to remain un repudiated by Mr. Hsiung and any deputy of record, could arouse ill-will toward me and depreciate me in the eyes of a subset of readers that could decrease the respect and confidence and regard that I am held. The statement could cause a subset of readers to be against me and what I say here, and being against me because I am a Jew as the post dehumanizes Jews. That is what anti-Semitism is, it is against the Jews, it is anti-Judaism. And anti-Judaism can be persuasive to have readers disregard what I write here .
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.html
Posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 12:27:52
In reply to Lou's reply-ahntyJudehyizm » iowamoo, posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2014, at 11:50:49
I thought we were talking about Risperdal or meds of that nature but it seems this is about religion.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2014, at 14:52:04
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ahntyJudehyizm » Lou Pilder, posted by iowamoo on April 22, 2014, at 12:27:52
> I thought we were talking about Risperdal or meds of that nature but it seems this is about religion.
iowamoo,
We are in discussion about the psychotropic drugs here and I intend to post what IMHHHO could save you a lifetime of misery. I have posted to you an explanation as to why I can not post in a manner to educate you from my perspective. I could do this over a great amount of time and if the prohibitions were not posted to me, I could do it quicker.
But don't forget whose site you're reading and the prohibitions you're going to see to me, so iowa, save the last post for me.
Lou
Posted by Zyprexa on April 25, 2014, at 22:35:24
In reply to seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by iowamoo on April 21, 2014, at 18:33:42
I Had stiff muciles on risperdal.I think it is a sign of NMS. I stopped taking it. Zyprexa works though, for me. It was like I was stiff as a board, could not move.
Posted by iowamoo on April 26, 2014, at 7:37:03
In reply to Re: seriously need help with Risperdal Question, posted by Zyprexa on April 25, 2014, at 22:35:24
What dose were you taking?
I am taking .25 only.
I also had increased another medicine I was taking called a beta blocker and I stopped both for a couple days and it cleared up and now I've added back the beta blocker and only half the risperdal to see if I can determine which may of caused it if either. I thought those things were dose related.
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