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Posted by joe f on February 20, 2014, at 17:32:50
any experiences with vistoril and can a person switch from klonopin to vistoril
Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 20, 2014, at 19:27:57
In reply to vistoril, posted by joe f on February 20, 2014, at 17:32:50
i've taken vistiril many times, it's an antihistimine...they gave me it at the psych hospital first thing i got in there....it's not as effective as benzos, i have to say that, but yes it will calm down anxiety but it's basically in the same class of the antihistimine in Tylenol PM for sleep over the counter....
it's called hydroxyzine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyzineit's a vary doctor friendly medication, they prescibe it at mental health hospitals alot.....
but seriously in my view....don't switch, klonopin is much more potent than hydroxyzine, it would be a better thing if you added hydro..to klonopin...the anxiety would definetly lower
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Posted by Christ_empowered on February 21, 2014, at 3:55:28
In reply to vistoril, posted by joe f on February 20, 2014, at 17:32:50
probably not. They work entirely differently. I think you could add hydroxyzine (atarax, vistaril) to ongoing bezo treatment, but it won't do much to help taper or replace the tranquilizer. Sorry :-(
Posted by Sheilac on February 21, 2014, at 6:28:18
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by Christ_empowered on February 21, 2014, at 3:55:28
I've taken vistiril or hydroxyzine as an antihistamine mainly for sleep. It knocks me out. I guess if you're asleep you don't feel anxious? Klonopin works better for me during the day.
Posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 6:33:56
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by Sheilac on February 21, 2014, at 6:28:18
thanks I take 1.0 twice daily and am worried about it ...won't go higher
Posted by Phillipa on February 21, 2014, at 8:50:54
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 6:33:56
Joe what is your med combo now? Phillipa
Posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 12:37:11
In reply to Re: vistoril » joe f, posted by Phillipa on February 21, 2014, at 8:50:54
tegretol 600. lamictal 100, Cymbalta 30 and klonopin 1.5...just does not control the anxiety /racing thoughts ..any suggestions...atypicals are out because diabetic....perhaps a glass of wine mid-day?
Posted by Sheilac on February 21, 2014, at 13:47:34
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 12:37:11
Joe, I so understand how you are feeling with the anxiety. I was taking 600mg of Trileptal (kinda like Tegrotol) and it helped with my anxiety. But now I've stopped taking it and I feel like I'm going to crawl out if my skin.
I also take 1-3mg a day of Klonopin for anxiety, which does help.
I was taking Geodon, which didn't help with anxiety, but helped perk me up. I also worry about the diabetic issues with Geodon (an atypical).
I'm kind of in between meds right now but fear I'm might need to go back to Trileptal for the anxiety relief alone.
Have you checked with your doc on upping the Tegrotol and Klonopin?
Posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 18:24:34
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by Sheilac on February 21, 2014, at 13:47:34
yea I will check with him on upping the tegretol...he will allow me another klonopin ..but i'm afraid to take 3 daily...what do you think
Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 22, 2014, at 0:44:12
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 18:24:34
i don't know about your doctor, because doctors are picky about some drugs, but xanax xr would be good for you, alrazolam has antidepressant effects...i've taken xan xr before...it's good
it's 24 hour release
good luck
Posted by Christ_empowered on February 22, 2014, at 11:57:14
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by joe f on February 21, 2014, at 12:37:11
I think tegretol reduces benzo levels. Have you tried trileptal?
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 24, 2014, at 3:34:37
In reply to vistoril, posted by joe f on February 20, 2014, at 17:32:50
Hydroxyzine releives anxiety by blocking the 5HT2A receptors (nore that just antiistamine drowsiness)
It cant sbstitute for benzos, as its mode of action is completely different
I know RJ doesnt like it becauuse it doesnt have the "kick" of a benzo, in a blind controlled study of GAD, ydroxyzine performed as well as bromazepam
In panic./agrophoibia, it is less usefull
Posted by Abby Cunningham on February 24, 2014, at 14:07:34
In reply to vistoril, posted by joe f on February 20, 2014, at 17:32:50
I take hydroxizine about once a day and it does help a bit but it is NOT a substitute for a benzodiazepine! The drug does not hit the benzo receptors in the brain at all and I have no idea if it could help you in tapering the klonopin.
Withdrawal symptoms will come if you try to substitute Vistoril for Klonopin.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 25, 2014, at 18:55:51
In reply to Re: vistoril, posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 24, 2014, at 3:34:37
If you want to painlessly taper Klonopin (or any other benzo) google "the ashton protocil"
The basic principal is that you convert your current benzo do diazepam, and get your dose dispensed in 2mg tablets, then reduce the dose by half a tablet (1mg) per week
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