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Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 9:05:55
This isn't a med question per say but they seem to lead to medications. It just seems that both in real life, on facebook, that cancer is occurring in leaps and bounds. Someone suggested it's cell phones, some food, some water, but you didn't used to hear of kids with cancer, heart defects, and other strange illnesses. Also today with all the infertility meds seems more birth defects and miscarriages etc today. What are you thoughts on this? I will pose this question also on facebook as different set of people. Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on January 17, 2014, at 12:36:43
In reply to Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 9:05:55
It's not a user friendly world out there and it's getting worse. What we assume is clean, may not be. Gluten. GMO. These are fairly new in the last few decades. Plastics. We do not know the rest of the story on that one. The latest was the BPA thing but you know that's just an introduction if history is any guide. Parents of today's kids, many of them were exposed to leaded gasoline. So who knows? I would think it's all a culmination of what society has adopted as ok or not. Stuff making people sicker these days...in my learned opinion...are some of the common things we assume are without risk.
GMO corn for example. Corn isn't going to make anyone sick or cause diseases, right?
The story was in South America. A corn plantation used GMO seeds from the USA because they were the cheapest and were genetically modified to make bigger crops and fewer pests. Sounds great. That same corn is most of the food in our grocery stores. Unless it says "non-gmo" on the package.
In the third world setting this plantation is in, the workers in those farm fields relied on corn as their staple diet since it was available and free.
I don't remember how many of the workers came down with chronic conditions but it was a lot. A large of those workers gradually over time came down with all sorts of mysterious conditions, symptoms, and diseases. And then some of them began to actually die. Some did die.
In our diets corn is not our staple food. Though it is in many of our foods. Our primary intake is not corn. On that plantation it was their primary intake. Relatively low levels of toxic effect in the gmo maybe are not a health concern for most people, but in larger amounts becomes more dangerous, just like any other toxic substance. We just don't eat enough to reach that threshold. The plantation workers did. But for the 20% some odd percentage of the population with defective genes which hinder excretion of toxins, just normal american diet might be enough to cause disease, damage, and symptoms.
But what about a baby? Should a baby be eating our corn? Not in my house! And then that baby grows up and people wonder where the symptoms came from.
The plantation owner suspected the gmo corn and for the next season ordered the more expensive non-modified corn seeds. There were no health issues that season. For the season following that one, the owner could not afford the non-modified seeds so he had no choice but to order the gmo seeds. By this time it was maybe assumed that all that disease maybe wasn't the corn? Nobody really new. The whole genetically modified science is fairly new, and never tested in mass over time. Anyway, again, workers came down with all sorts of symptoms.
If we personally accept that the world we live in is actually more contaminated than we think it is, then it becomes much easier to do something about it. Organic, gluten free, non-gmo...this stuff isn't much more expensive. The medical bills over time of NOT doing those things, I believe would trump the cost of doing those things and not having the medical bills.
imo. patients should do their own research to validate.
Posted by linkadge on January 17, 2014, at 15:44:12
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by bleauberry on January 17, 2014, at 12:36:43
# 1 - breakup of the family
# 2 - crap in the foodLinkadge
Posted by sigismund on January 17, 2014, at 16:03:25
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by linkadge on January 17, 2014, at 15:44:12
My levels of mercury are/were off the scale, lead and thallium too.
From what? Fillings are out ages ago. The whole food chain is poisoned.
Posted by baseball55 on January 17, 2014, at 20:04:44
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by sigismund on January 17, 2014, at 16:03:25
Where is the evidence for any of this? Just anecdotes? Life-expectancy is rising. So who says kids are dying of cancer and heart disease?
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 20:19:06
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by baseball55 on January 17, 2014, at 20:04:44
Moms here in the neighborhood I live in and the near by ones. So many have had to take fertility drugs and now one of the kids has a heart condition. Babies are being born with congenital defects I never heard of when I was a New Mother. More females not being able to get pregnant. All the hospitals for children with cancer. Not just cancer. Many illnesses that no one heard of before. I did post this on facebook different crowd and so many wrote food, water, cell phone useage. Phillipa
Posted by baseball55 on January 17, 2014, at 20:44:38
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today? » baseball55, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 20:19:06
But where's the evidence, Phillipa? People say... It seems as though...A lot of the increase in fertility treatment is because people wait until later in life to have children. It's unusual today for middle-class professional women to have children in their 20s, when they are most fertile. They wait until they're in their mid-30s, then find they can't get pregnant.
Although that's BS too. I have no idea whether this is true or not. No evidence. No epidemiology studies. All I know is that child death rates are falling everywhere and life-expectancy is rising everywhere. So, if that's true, how can it be that people are dropping off like flies from god knows what.
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 20:59:13
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by baseball55 on January 17, 2014, at 20:44:38
I posed the question because I have no evidence that is scientific just what I see and hear. One of my neighbors tried & tried to get pregnant for years. She now has an 8 year old and 4 year old. But had to take fertility meds. She now has a Daughter that it looks like could have a heart condition. And she didn't wait. Another Indian lady talked to yesterday had her first age 20 tried and kept trying and finally now has a 3 year old also. She used no protection. They do say fertility meds can cause a number of severe illnesses in the Moms later in life. This is googleable. I had heard and bet you also did when cell phones came out that they could possibly cause brain cancer. Goggle searches say unconclusive. I don't know. Just posted the question. Phillipa
Posted by poser938 on January 19, 2014, at 19:28:35
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today? » baseball55, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2014, at 20:59:13
Pesticides used on foods could be one cause. They've been links to Parkinson's Disease.
Not sure if this link will work for others since I'm on a tablet computer and many of my links are different.Preservatives in food such as BHA and BHT have been linked to altering brain chemistry.
http://foodidentitytheft.com/a-pair-of-preservatives-you-need-to-beware-of/Cholesterol lowering drugs, Statins, have been linked to an increase risk of Diabetes, Depression and Cataracts. And if I remember right, a few years they believed they caused an increase chance of Alzheimer's Disease, but lately they say they actually decrease the chance. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/inner-source/201208/statin-island-woe-are-depression-and-cholesterol-lowering-connected
Antidepressant linked to DNA Damage
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1442-200X.2002.01647.x/abstract;jsessionid=6805AA3BC1839C2EFC53A3AD9230401B.f03t01?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=falseChronic use of Antidepressants linked to causing chronic, untreatable Depression
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201106/now-antidepressant-induced-chronic-depression-has-name-tardive-dysphoria
Posted by poser938 on January 19, 2014, at 21:30:46
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by poser938 on January 19, 2014, at 19:28:35
But here's an article with a chart showing the trend in Cancer rates for various types of Cancers. Many are actually going down.
Posted by Phillipa on January 19, 2014, at 22:48:42
In reply to Re: Why so Much Cancer + Stuff Wrong With Kids Today?, posted by poser938 on January 19, 2014, at 21:30:46
Strange chart as chemo and other treatments rising and mortality decreasing I would guess from the treatments? Phillipa
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