![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 8 of 8. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 0:56:21
**WARNING----TRIGGERS**
Hey,
It's the original Jay from Canuckda back again. I guess I'll stick with the med part of this...I'll try my best.
I am in a state of very deep grief. I lost my Mom this past February, in a sudden tragedy. Now my Dad is in the hospital, with major dementia, and is going into a Long Term Care Home. I have been stuck, unemployed, in my Parent's home, where I have lived with them most of my life.(I am 44 btw). My Mom is gone, and she was so close to me especially in the past 10-15 years. My Dad doesn't even remember my name mostly, and is also dealing with kidney failure. He will never be back home though, and I am stuck, living alone, in my Parent's very lonely and seemingly empty bungalow.
Okay..the med part. I am on Prozac, Zyprexa, Cymbalta, Zeldox/Geodon, and Lyrica and clonazapam. I have this very weird anxiety that foster's more sadness and lonelyness. And, I just as heck can't sleep. I have the weight of being both my parent's Executor and Power of Attorney. I look after all of the bills, and credit/financial stuff at my Parent's home. They typical antipsychotics don't give me much relief, except in very high doses. But I have been researching and it looks like Thorazine/Largactil is a very good sedative. I can take 30mg of Zyprexa and it won't do much for me. Same with most atypicals. Thorazine also works on melatonin, which in large doses sometimes helps. I've tried other typicals and they barely work at regular doses. Seroquel MAYBE at 300-400mg doses in one shot MAY work before bed, but it causes too many problems with my blood sugar.
The Zeldox/Geodon helps with a bit of drive. But my Emotions really need slowing down. I sometimes think to myself that once my Dad passes, I should just end it myself. No, no, I have no intentions on acting on this, but it is a feeling of dread, that the world has just become dog-eat-dog all-out-for-themselves greed. I don't want any of that in my world.
Any help..I'd appreciate it. Thanks in kind...
Jay
Posted by SLS on November 2, 2013, at 2:40:19
In reply to Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al, posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 0:56:21
Gosh.
I am so, so sorry, Jay.
I wish that I had something smart to say. Your plate is much fuller than mine. I admire your perseverance in the face of such tragedy, especially with the many years of suffering that came before. You must be naturally resilient. It is a gift that will help you get through this bad time.
I don't know if you qualify, but there is a relatively new mental illness diagnosis of "complicated grief". Treatment includes specialized psychotherapy.
https://www.google.com/#q=%22complicated+grief%22
What has been your history of diagnoses?
Are you bipolar or is there any history of bipolar anywhere in your family? I am curious about the Prozac/Zyprexa combination.
Can you give a more detailed description of what you experience? What symptoms give you the most trouble?
Is there any PTSD going on? How do you sleep? Do you have nightmares?
Why was Geodon chosen?
You'll be okay. It might take some time, but I think you'll get there.
Homework:
1. Complicated grief
2. PTSD and complicated grief
3. Developmental PTSD
4. Prazosin as a treatment for PTSD
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2013, at 9:38:29
In reply to Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al, posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 0:56:21
Jay so sorry to hear of your current situation. I extend my believe that you will get through this also. Agree with Scott you are resilient. Please keep us updated. Phillipa
Posted by Roslynn on November 2, 2013, at 10:26:58
In reply to Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al, posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 0:56:21
Dear Jay,
I'm so sorry. God bless you through this time.
Roslynn
Posted by rockerchick46 on November 2, 2013, at 14:07:43
In reply to Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al, posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 0:56:21
> **WARNING----TRIGGERS**
>
> Hey,
>
> It's the original Jay from Canuckda back again. I guess I'll stick with the med part of this...I'll try my best.
>
> I am in a state of very deep grief. I lost my Mom this past February, in a sudden tragedy.
I lost my mom (Beloved) in 2011 to cancer. I lived with her and she basically took care of me during my many hospitalizations (4) in 2011. Had to grow up in a hurry and was her executor too.Now my Dad is in the hospital, with major dementia, and is going into a Long Term Care Home. I have been stuck, unemployed, in my Parent's home, where I have lived with them most of my life.(I am 44 btw). My Mom is gone, and she was so close to me especially in the past 10-15 years. My Dad doesn't even remember my name mostly, and is also dealing with kidney failure. He will never be back home though, and I am stuck, living alone, in my Parent's very lonely and seemingly empty bungalow.
Play some music that you love and look at photos of happy times. Clean the clutter.
>
> Okay..the med part. I am on Prozac, Zyprexa, Cymbalta, Zeldox/Geodon, and Lyrica and clonazapam. I have this very weird anxiety that foster's more sadness and lonelyness. And, I just as heck can't sleep. I have the weight of being both my parent's Executor and Power of Attorney. I look after all of the bills, and credit/financial stuff at my Parent's home. They typical antipsychotics don't give me much relief, except in very high doses. But I have been researching and it looks like Thorazine/Largactil is a very good sedative. I can take 30mg of Zyprexa and it won't do much for me. Same with most atypicals. Thorazine also works on melatonin, which in large doses sometimes helps. I've tried other typicals and they barely work at regular doses. Seroquel MAYBE at 300-400mg doses in one shot MAY work before bed, but it causes too many problems with my blood sugar.Combining Seroquel(New atypical antipsychotic) and Navane (Old school antipsychotic) was the magic pill for me.
SLS is asleep on the couch right now (Snoring) but I will tell him about this post when he wakes up. maybe he will have some insight. See my Yay! post at the end of this board to see what the rest of my meds are if you are curious.
Also What is your diagnosis if you don't mind sharing?????
T
>
> The Zeldox/Geodon helps with a bit of drive. But my Emotions really need slowing down. I sometimes think to myself that once my Dad passes, I should just end it myself. No, no, I have no intentions on acting on this, but it is a feeling of dread, that the world has just become dog-eat-dog all-out-for-themselves greed. I don't want any of that in my world.
>
> Any help..I'd appreciate it. Thanks in kind...
>
> Jay
Posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 15:06:45
In reply to Re: Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al » Jay_Original1, posted by SLS on November 2, 2013, at 2:40:19
> Gosh.
>
> I am so, so sorry, Jay.
>
> I wish that I had something smart to say. Your plate is much fuller than mine. I admire your perseverance in the face of such tragedy, especially with the many years of suffering that came before. You must be naturally resilient. It is a gift that will help you get through this bad time.
>
> I don't know if you qualify, but there is a relatively new mental illness diagnosis of "complicated grief". Treatment includes specialized psychotherapy.
>
> https://www.google.com/#q=%22complicated+grief%22
>
> What has been your history of diagnoses?
>
> Are you bipolar or is there any history of bipolar anywhere in your family? I am curious about the Prozac/Zyprexa combination.
>
> Can you give a more detailed description of what you experience? What symptoms give you the most trouble?
>
> Is there any PTSD going on? How do you sleep? Do you have nightmares?
>
> Why was Geodon chosen?
>
> You'll be okay. It might take some time, but I think you'll get there.
>
> Homework:
>
> 1. Complicated grief
> 2. PTSD and complicated grief
> 3. Developmental PTSD
> 4. Prazosin as a treatment for PTSD
>
>
> - ScottThank you so much, Scott, for your sincere and deep empathy. Yes, I actually know a bit about complicated grief. I am a 3rd year Bachelor of Social Work student, and came across complicated grief in one of my courses on specialties in mental health. I really do fit the picture with complicated grief. My Dx is BP II, with mostly dysphoric mania (agitation..insomnia or/hypersomnia...inability to enjoy pleasure..)
But, I really surprised myself in that I have and can hold a bit of it together. It is just that one symptom of getting to sleep. The Geodon and Zyprexa where prescribed, the Geodon for uplifting my deep sad moods without causing mania, and the Zyprexa for some sedation, especially at bedtime. It is the Zyprexa that has 'pooped out'. I've been on it for over 12 years, and it just seems like my body got used of it.
And yes, there seems to be some PTSD to my illness. I was in the room and watched my Mom die when they stopped the life-support. In the long run, though, I think that was an important thing for me. I know I was with her right till the end, and I got to kiss her and tell her how much I love her, and that I will always forever be with her. Another complication...is my Sister and I had a massive fight over my Mom's care before she died and had her first stroke. I haven't talked to my Sister, even at my Mom's funeral, for a very long time. There where nasty emails sent between us. But....I don't have nightmares, and I think the Geodon and Clonidine help with that.
Developmental PTSD..are you talking about developmental disorders? I did have a few growing up, in that I had problems as a child with reading comprehension, speech, and co-ordination.
I may suggest Prazosin to my doc when I see him this week. I am applying for long-term disability, and my doctor thought that was a good idea. I've lived with my mental illness and treatment for almost 20+ years. The stress of working sets me back BIG time.
Thanks so-much for your time Scott. It is greatly appreciated. I am in need now, but I still have a lot to give, and hope to do so.
Jay
Posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 15:08:00
In reply to Re: Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al » Jay_Original1, posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2013, at 9:38:29
> Jay so sorry to hear of your current situation. I extend my believe that you will get through this also. Agree with Scott you are resilient. Please keep us updated. Phillipa
Thanks so-much Phillipa. Your kindness always brings a smile.
Jay
Posted by Jay_Original1 on November 2, 2013, at 15:09:19
In reply to Re: Desperate Cry -Meds and prolonged Grief SLS et al, posted by Roslynn on November 2, 2013, at 10:26:58
> Dear Jay,
>
> I'm so sorry. God bless you through this time.
>
> RoslynnThanks so very much Roslynn. :)
Jay
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Medication | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.