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Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 4, 2012, at 22:07:44
i've been doing some resarch on this...the medication they had where VERY limited, this was before barbs and antipsyhoctics...the only thing they had was choral hydrate, alcohol[yes they used it in medical treatment] opium and morphine...there's another one that I can't pronounce....but that's all they had...and of course the nasty bromide salts that where harsh way of sedating someone.
They used to use tranquilizing chairs...for out of control patients nad they let them stay there for ... who knows... but none of this was ever used with mediation, they used to litterly bleed the person to reduce pressure and make them slow down, awful. in the 1700's it was even worse because they didnt have choral hydate...they would lock em up in doungens away from society in nasty conditions, no sunlight. Don't ask about the 1600's.
The hospitals back then could house thousands but I mean with out medication to help, they where brutal in locking people in small cages, i've seen images of long ago treatments, they where insane themselves for creating these brutal treatments with nothing but to lower the quality of life for that person.
well...ill reserach what I can maybe post some stuff about this, but im telling it must have been bad...
Posted by schleprock on October 4, 2012, at 23:34:36
In reply to nasty treatments in psychiatry in 1800's, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 4, 2012, at 22:07:44
> i've been doing some resarch on this...the medication they had where VERY limited, this was before barbs and antipsyhoctics...the only thing they had was choral hydrate, alcohol[yes they used it in medical treatment] opium and morphine...there's another one that I can't pronounce....but that's all they had...and of course the nasty bromide salts that where harsh way of sedating someone.
>
> They used to use tranquilizing chairs...for out of control patients nad they let them stay there for ... who knows... but none of this was ever used with mediation, they used to litterly bleed the person to reduce pressure and make them slow down, awful. in the 1700's it was even worse because they didnt have choral hydate...they would lock em up in doungens away from society in nasty conditions, no sunlight. Don't ask about the 1600's.
>
> The hospitals back then could house thousands but I mean with out medication to help, they where brutal in locking people in small cages, i've seen images of long ago treatments, they where insane themselves for creating these brutal treatments with nothing but to lower the quality of life for that person.
>
> well...ill reserach what I can maybe post some stuff about this, but im telling it must have been bad...
>Research "Willowbrook Institution" "Staten Island". It wasn't just the 1800s.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 5, 2012, at 1:06:38
In reply to Re: nasty treatments in psychiatry in 1800's, posted by schleprock on October 4, 2012, at 23:34:36
Hell, it was well into the 1950's before they put the breaks on prefrontal lobotomy (the discovery of chlorpromazine spelled the end of it) and they were using deep sleep therapy well into the 1970's, where people would be kept under heavy sedation for weeks at a time
Posted by phillipa on October 5, 2012, at 9:38:58
In reply to Re: nasty treatments in psychiatry in 1800's, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 5, 2012, at 1:06:38
I remember in the 60's my Mother took miltown for anxiety. But then she had addison's disease and RA and basically was dying. I also took miltown in mid 70's with valium and it made me normal again. I just quit the miltown after about a year as didn't need it. No side effects. Hey I was a busy Mother running a business so just continued on with life. Thanks to that combo. My panic disappeared. Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 5, 2012, at 18:27:57
In reply to Re: nasty treatments in psychiatry in 1800's, posted by phillipa on October 5, 2012, at 9:38:58
The 10 years from 1953 to 1963 changed psychiatry for ever..... in 1953 they had barbiturates and nothing else, by 1963, they had antipsychotics, tranquilizers, antidepressants, basicly all the tools of modern psychiatry.
We're lucky to live in the modern age when we have drugs to ease our misery, wether the pain is physical or mental.
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 7, 2012, at 16:20:31
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 5, 2012, at 18:27:57
> The 10 years from 1953 to 1963 changed psychiatry for ever..... in 1953 they had barbiturates and nothing else, by 1963, they had antipsychotics, tranquilizers, antidepressants, basicly all the tools of modern psychiatry.
>
> We're lucky to live in the modern age when we have drugs to ease our misery, wether the pain is physical or mental.I completely agree. And we have air conditioning too. :)
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 7, 2012, at 20:37:52
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » jono_in_adelaide, posted by ChicagoKat on October 7, 2012, at 16:20:31
haha!
My grandparents built their house (literaly built it them selves, my grandfather was a builder) in 1955. They instaled an airconditioner (comming from England, the Australian summers were somthing of a shock) and the neighbours were amazed at the decedence.
Posted by phillipa on October 7, 2012, at 21:34:13
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 7, 2012, at 20:37:52
My Father's parents were English. Somewhere I thought my Grandfather also lived in Australia. That side of family no info. Is Curry a common name there? Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 7, 2012, at 23:48:05
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » jono_in_adelaide, posted by phillipa on October 7, 2012, at 21:34:13
I dont think its common, but not uncommon, if you know what I mean
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 8, 2012, at 9:04:54
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 7, 2012, at 20:37:52
> haha!
>
> My grandparents built their house (literaly built it them selves, my grandfather was a builder) in 1955. They instaled an airconditioner (comming from England, the Australian summers were somthing of a shock) and the neighbours were amazed at the decedence.
>
>Ha ha!!! That's a funny story. I must say I'm impressed that your grandparent's literally built their own home. But why did they move from England to Australia? And can you imagine living without a/c??
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 9, 2012, at 0:58:50
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » jono_in_adelaide, posted by ChicagoKat on October 8, 2012, at 9:04:54
England after WWII was a pretty grim place, the war had bankrupted them, and held them back for many years (food rationing didnt end until 1955) where as Australia was a land of plenty. My they migrated here and made good, they did well out of the post war building boom etc
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 9, 2012, at 11:51:47
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 9, 2012, at 0:58:50
> England after WWII was a pretty grim place, the war had bankrupted them, and held them back for many years (food rationing didnt end until 1955) where as Australia was a land of plenty. My they migrated here and made good, they did well out of the post war building boom etc
wow, what a life of strife they led. were they in London during the blitz? I read an amazing book called 'War Brides' by someone Bryan; in it was a lot of the detail of how WWII affected England, including the effect of the blitz on London. It sounds like WWII was just heartbreaking for many in England. I highly recommend the book, btw.
Sounds like it was a good idea for your parents to emigrate to Australia.
You have a fascinating family history!
Kat
Posted by phillipa on October 9, 2012, at 18:40:50
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » jono_in_adelaide, posted by ChicagoKat on October 9, 2012, at 11:51:47
Anyone ever use Ancestry.com. According to TV it's free? Haven't gone there. Phillipa
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 9, 2012, at 21:22:34
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips, posted by phillipa on October 9, 2012, at 18:40:50
> Anyone ever use Ancestry.com. According to TV it's free? Haven't gone there. Phillipa
Hi Phillipa,
My Mom uses it. She told me it's free for 14 days and after that you have to pay. But she seems to like it. I keep meaning to check it out, mostly for my Dad's side of the family, as both my grandparents on that side emigrated from Russia. It would be cool to find relatives that I have over there.
Hope you are well,
Kat
Posted by phillipa on October 10, 2012, at 20:36:38
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 9, 2012, at 21:22:34
Kat same here as have a family tree on Mother's side not Dad's. Know both him and wife were English and I am automatically a member of DAR. So Would like to know their history. Phillipa
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 11, 2012, at 12:10:31
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » ChicagoKat, posted by phillipa on October 10, 2012, at 20:36:38
> Kat same here as have a family tree on Mother's side not Dad's. Know both him and wife were English and I am automatically a member of DAR. So Would like to know their history. Phillipa
Hi Phillipa!
Yeah, I'm English on my mom's side...does that make me a DAR too? I guess there's a bit of French as well on her side. But I do know her side of my family have lived in america a very long time.
If you try it out, let me know how you like it. I intend to give it at least a trial someday soon myself.
My best,
Kat
Posted by phillipa on October 11, 2012, at 20:28:29
In reply to Re: nasty treatments - Phillips » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 11, 2012, at 12:10:31
Kat I definitely will let you know. Phillipa
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