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Posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:18:30
In reply to Lou's reply-dhepham » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 6:35:35
Lou Pilder your posts have reached a new low. Threatening SLS with lawyers?You encourage people to stop taking their medications despite the advice given to them by their doctors. What you do is more worthy of being looked into by any ''lawyers''.
You constantly spam this forum and cause nothing but vitrol.
> > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> >
> > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Scott,
> You wrote about the website, ehealthme.
> Here is their home page that describes {about us}. The page lists those that endorse the site including the Mayo Clinic. The statement concerning their mission is there and how they do what they do.
> Now I have a great knowlege of statistics. In fact, my knowlege here could be way beyond anyone elses' knowlege here concerning how statistics are used and collected. I have taken graduate statistics and have a great appreciation for what the site owners have done with their site.
> You may have to answer to their lawyers for what you wrote here about them.
> I am asking Mr. Hsiung, if he reads this, to delete your statements about the site, ehealthme. They can not know of what you wrote here about them and thearfore can not post a response to you, but someone may forward to them what you wrote about them.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus/#citation
Posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 20:26:13
In reply to Stop threatening forum members » Lou Pilder, posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:18:30
Alright, who wants to take a stab at this. Remember, be professional.
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 20:37:40
In reply to Re: Lou's diagnosis?, posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 20:26:13
He doesn't get it Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
In reply to I absolutely agree. Lou is causing harm » SLS, posted by AlexCanada on September 4, 2012, at 20:15:04
> This forum is falling apart thanks to Lou Pilder. Countless topics are bombarded my repetetive agenda driven posts which often resemble spam.
>
> This is a medical forum and people are seeking medical help for serious mental conditions. People die every single day from such conditions and we have Lou Pilder causing tremendous harm with his exaggerations and playing loose with the facts.
>
> His posts constantly consist of negative anti-medical nonsense and offer no viable alternative for those whom are clinically ill and in need of serious help.
>
> Even I sometimes cannot stand to post on this forum because this individual is turning this place into such a mess.
>
> Why is nothing ever done? Is Dr. Bob willing to do anything about it?
>
>
> > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> >
> > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
>Friends,
It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside; It's not one that I can easily hide.
You see, many of you already know that I see two roads to go on when you are lost and troubled. There is the broad road of {human achievement} with so many ways to go. You could go on the high road, or the low road, or in the fast lane or slow lane. You could ride a bike, drive a motorcycle, leave on a jet plane, take the fast train. You could go on the subway, take a taxi anyway, but you do not need a helicopter to know which way the road goes. You could fall down a manhole and light yourself a candle, you could hitch a ride and then deceide anyway you want to go. There are so many ways on the road of human achievement.
But there is another road. It is a narrow path that I am talking about. And this path is so narrow that onjly one person can be on it. You have to go alone. And the path is so narrow that you have no choice as to where you are going, you can not get off, you can not change paths, you can not turn back. Sounds like a scary road, for there is darkness on that road and only a small lamp is at your feet. But that lamp has a light that could take you to Paradise. Not someware in outer space but within you. Today you could be in Paradise. You could be freed from the shakles of depression and addiction. You could be free from death. You could be free from worry and drad and dispair. You could mend a broken heart.
And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, I asked where this road is and who can go on it and He said to me, "The rightious cry out and the Lord hears. And dekivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such that have a contrite spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous.But the Lord delivers him out of them all. The Lord redeems the souls of His servants and none of those that trust in Him shall be condemned. Now go the way. Go to the narrow road for many will go to the broad road, but some will seek the narrow road and few there be that find it."
Lou
Posted by schleprock on September 4, 2012, at 22:36:39
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
> > This forum is falling apart thanks to Lou Pilder. Countless topics are bombarded my repetetive agenda driven posts which often resemble spam.
> >
> > This is a medical forum and people are seeking medical help for serious mental conditions. People die every single day from such conditions and we have Lou Pilder causing tremendous harm with his exaggerations and playing loose with the facts.
> >
> > His posts constantly consist of negative anti-medical nonsense and offer no viable alternative for those whom are clinically ill and in need of serious help.
> >
> > Even I sometimes cannot stand to post on this forum because this individual is turning this place into such a mess.
> >
> > Why is nothing ever done? Is Dr. Bob willing to do anything about it?
> >
> >
> > > Lou, you manage to make your position well described in a single post. I believe that your posts along this thread would be judged as uncivil were this forum to be actively moderated, as they represent overgeneralizations and exaggerations. Not only that, they are factually wrong, as I have demonstrated in the past. Your posts are repetitious and redundant. You did a great job of describing your position in a single post. I would offer that you take these things into consideration before posting again along this thread.
> > >
> > > Of course, you know that I think your citations taken from http://www.ehealthme.com contain spurious statements and unsubstantiated numbers that are presented as objectives statistics. I have demonstrated this in the past, too. Taken in total, I find this website to be dedicated to deception so as to further what I interpret as an agenda to discourage people from utilizing medicinal treatments.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> >
>
> Friends,
> It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside; It's not one that I can easily hide.
> You see, many of you already know that I see two roads to go on when you are lost and troubled. There is the broad road of {human achievement} with so many ways to go. You could go on the high road, or the low road, or in the fast lane or slow lane. You could ride a bike, drive a motorcycle, leave on a jet plane, take the fast train. You could go on the subway, take a taxi anyway, but you do not need a helicopter to know which way the road goes. You could fall down a manhole and light yourself a candle, you could hitch a ride and then deceide anyway you want to go. There are so many ways on the road of human achievement.
> But there is another road. It is a narrow path that I am talking about. And this path is so narrow that onjly one person can be on it. You have to go alone. And the path is so narrow that you have no choice as to where you are going, you can not get off, you can not change paths, you can not turn back. Sounds like a scary road, for there is darkness on that road and only a small lamp is at your feet. But that lamp has a light that could take you to Paradise. Not someware in outer space but within you. Today you could be in Paradise. You could be freed from the shakles of depression and addiction. You could be free from death. You could be free from worry and drad and dispair. You could mend a broken heart.
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, I asked where this road is and who can go on it and He said to me, "The rightious cry out and the Lord hears. And dekivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such that have a contrite spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous.But the Lord delivers him out of them all. The Lord redeems the souls of His servants and none of those that trust in Him shall be condemned. Now go the way. Go to the narrow road for many will go to the broad road, but some will seek the narrow road and few there be that find it."
> LouI think this is his first post where he didn't use the word "prohibitions"
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 23:28:19
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
Lou this reminds me of Scott Peck's "The Road Less Traveled" But there is a junction in the road and the Traveler has an option of which road he wishes to travel and he will chose a path maybe not the one you choose but he is the one to choose the traveler. Phillipa
Posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
In reply to Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2012, at 20:53:11
...
There is a road, no simple highway,
Between the dawn and the dark of night,
And if you go no one may follow,
That path is for your steps alone.Ripple in still water,
When there is no pebble tossed,
Nor wind to blow.You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then whos to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home. ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY
Posted by zazenducke on September 5, 2012, at 7:05:17
In reply to Re: Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
Let it be known there is a fountain,
That was not made by the hands of men.
Posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 7:20:13
In reply to Re: Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
Nice.
- Scott> ...
> There is a road, no simple highway,
> Between the dawn and the dark of night,
> And if you go no one may follow,
> That path is for your steps alone.
>
> Ripple in still water,
> When there is no pebble tossed,
> Nor wind to blow.
>
> You who choose to lead must follow
> But if you fall you fall alone,
> If you should stand then whos to guide you?
> If I knew the way I would take you home. ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY
Posted by herpills on September 5, 2012, at 9:16:56
In reply to Lou's reply-nhvrmheyd » confused-in-TN, posted by Lou Pilder on September 3, 2012, at 6:20:54
Lou,
You wrote,[ Be advised that there are many prohibitions posted to me here from Mr. Hsiung. These prohibitions prevent me from responding to members here in the way that I would like to...]Then why are you here?
Posted by confused-in-TN on September 5, 2012, at 11:38:12
In reply to My name is Scott - Please show some respect. (nm) » zazenducke, posted by SLS on September 4, 2012, at 10:25:29
Scott, meant no disrespect. Sorry if I offended you. Sorry also that my original post set off such a maelstrom. I just wanted a little advice /support instead I got Lou. Who would have thought? By the way...my name is Shannon.
Posted by Lou PIlder on September 5, 2012, at 12:33:58
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-xanaxsuicide » confused-in-TN, posted by schleprock on September 3, 2012, at 16:12:08
> Actually, I believe that Lou's posts present some compelling evidence regarding why some people ought to STAY on their meds.
What is the compelling evidence?
Lou
Posted by zazenducke on September 5, 2012, at 13:08:38
In reply to Re: My name is Scott - Please show some respect., posted by confused-in-TN on September 5, 2012, at 11:38:12
Shannon I believe myself to be the object of His Excellency Mr S's chastisement not you.
Lou is wonderful man. You could have done a lot worse :)The crew that turns up to harangue him gets a bit tiresome sometimes.
I hope you"re having an ok day.
> Scott, meant no disrespect. Sorry if I offended you. Sorry also that my original post set off such a maelstrom. I just wanted a little advice /support instead I got Lou. Who would have thought? By the way...my name is Shannon.
Posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 14:00:50
In reply to Re: My name is Scott - Please show some respect., posted by confused-in-TN on September 5, 2012, at 11:38:12
Hi Shannon.
:-)
> Scott, meant no disrespect.
Don't be silly. My message was not directed at you. Anyway, I am glad that you posted. I hope you got some of your needs met. If not, I would encourage to continue posting in spite of people like me. ;-)
Please don't feel guilty or somehow responsible for any disputes that occurred. Things happen. People can become very combative on the Internet, including me. It often has very little to do with the original post. Still, it might serve a useful purpose to have people challenge what others have to say from time to time.
It is rare that people in need are ignored here. I hope you find the education and support you are looking for.
Be well.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2012, at 22:39:27
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-nhvrmheyd » Lou Pilder, posted by herpills on September 5, 2012, at 9:16:56
>
> Lou,
> You wrote,[ Be advised that there are many prohibitions posted to me here from Mr. Hsiung. These prohibitions prevent me from responding to members here in the way that I would like to...]
>
> Then why are you here?
>
> herpills,
The forum is for support and education that I intend to post here in order to save lives and to prevent life-ruining conditions and addiction and to offer a way that has been revealed to me that could lead one out of depression and addiction.
Now I may not be able to post what I need to here due to the prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung. With the prohibitions it will take me longer, much longer, and some could die durring that time period or get a life-ruining condition/addiction wheras they might be alive if the prohibitions were not posted to me by Mr Hsiung. Mr Hsiung states that he is doing what in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole. I am trying to save lives. Time will be the judge of both.
But there is much more to this. You see, there is a lot of math here, and I may have the most knowlege of any member here concerning that. And I see a catastrophy in the math involved here. This is why I am posting now on this board, for time is running and statistics are being cataloged that show me an urgent picture to be here to save lives. You see, when one draws a card out of a deck, the chances of getting the Joker is 1 in 53. But if one draws over and over year after year, then the chances of picking the Joker approaches a certainty.
There is a lot of other math here such as sequences and progressions that paint a disasterous picture to me here. I see that a hard rain is goin' to fall, for a sign has been given to me, the sign of Noah. And I see great wrath and some will be saved. And some will scoff at what I post and say there will be no rain, and it could be too late when the deluge comes. I am here to seek the lost and troubled that have tried {human acheivement} and have failed to be released from the prison of depression and addiction, before it is too late, before the door is shut.
Lou
Posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 22:45:45
In reply to Lou's reply-thesign » herpills, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2012, at 22:39:27
> The forum is for support and education
I agree.
> that I intend to post here in order to save lives and to prevent life-ruining conditions and addiction
Speaking for myself, I have always found your motivations to be admirable.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2012, at 23:48:25
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-thesign » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 22:45:45
Scott what a lovely message to Lou. Phillipa
Posted by confused-in-tn on September 6, 2012, at 12:15:45
In reply to Re: My name is Scott » confused-in-TN, posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 14:00:50
> Hi Shannon.
>
> :-)
>
> > Scott, meant no disrespect.
>
> Don't be silly. My message was not directed at you. Anyway, I am glad that you posted. I hope you got some of your needs met. If not, I would encourage to continue posting in spite of people like me. ;-)
>
> Please don't feel guilty or somehow responsible for any disputes that occurred. Things happen. People can become very combative on the Internet, including me. It often has very little to do with the original post. Still, it might serve a useful purpose to have people challenge what others have to say from time to time.
>
> It is rare that people in need are ignored here. I hope you find the education and support you are looking for.
>
> Be well.
>
>
> - Scott>Thanks, that makes me feel better. Not much has come from all this. But I continue to hang in there. I actually got a laugh or 2 out of Lou's comments. He probably has some real points in there if you had thr time/patience to weed them out. Best to you. Shannon
Posted by SLS on September 6, 2012, at 12:30:13
In reply to Re: My name is Scott, posted by confused-in-tn on September 6, 2012, at 12:15:45
> > Please don't feel guilty or somehow responsible for any disputes that occurred. Things happen. People can become very combative on the Internet, including me. It often has very little to do with the original post. Still, it might serve a useful purpose to have people challenge what others have to say from time to time.
> Thanks, that makes me feel better. Not much has come from all this. But I continue to hang in there. I actually got a laugh or 2 out of Lou's comments. He probably has some real points in there if you had thr time/patience to weed them out. Best to you. Shannon
Thanks.I'm glad that you decided to continue posting here. I hope we get to see more of you.
Are you any less confused?
- Scott
Posted by confused-in-tn on September 6, 2012, at 13:12:33
In reply to Re: My name is Scott » confused-in-tn, posted by SLS on September 6, 2012, at 12:30:13
> > > Please don't feel guilty or somehow responsible for any disputes that occurred. Things happen. People can become very combative on the Internet, including me. It often has very little to do with the original post. Still, it might serve a useful purpose to have people challenge what others have to say from time to time.
>
> > Thanks, that makes me feel better. Not much has come from all this. But I continue to hang in there. I actually got a laugh or 2 out of Lou's comments. He probably has some real points in there if you had thr time/patience to weed them out. Best to you. Shannon
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> I'm glad that you decided to continue posting here. I hope we get to see more of you.
>
> Are you any less confused?
>
>
> - Scott>Scott, don't know that I'm any less confused. This past year has been a real nightmare for me,but with help and determination I'm sure I'lll make it. Shannon
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2012, at 17:24:02
In reply to Re: My name is Scott, posted by confused-in-tn on September 6, 2012, at 12:15:45
> > Hi Shannon.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > > Scott, meant no disrespect.
> >
> > Don't be silly. My message was not directed at you. Anyway, I am glad that you posted. I hope you got some of your needs met. If not, I would encourage to continue posting in spite of people like me. ;-)
> >
> > Please don't feel guilty or somehow responsible for any disputes that occurred. Things happen. People can become very combative on the Internet, including me. It often has very little to do with the original post. Still, it might serve a useful purpose to have people challenge what others have to say from time to time.
> >
> > It is rare that people in need are ignored here. I hope you find the education and support you are looking for.
> >
> > Be well.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> >Thanks, that makes me feel better. Not much has come from all this. But I continue to hang in there. I actually got a laugh or 2 out of Lou's comments. He probably has some real points in there if you had thr time/patience to weed them out. Best to you. Shannonconfused in TN,
You wrote,[...I ..got a laugh or two out of Lou's comments...].
I am unsure as to which comments that you are referring to. If you could post here which comments they are, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you.
Lou
Posted by gardenergirl on September 6, 2012, at 17:50:19
In reply to Re: Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » gardenergirl, posted by SLS on September 5, 2012, at 7:20:13
Posted by schleprock on September 6, 2012, at 21:02:07
In reply to Lou's reply-thesign » herpills, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2012, at 22:39:27
So Lou, who will you be voting for this election day: The red pill or the blue pill?
Posted by jane d on September 8, 2012, at 0:42:49
In reply to Re: Lou's response-theroadtuparadise » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on September 5, 2012, at 0:36:43
> ...
> There is a road, no simple highway,
> Between the dawn and the dark of night,
> And if you go no one may follow,
> That path is for your steps alone.
>
> Ripple in still water,
> When there is no pebble tossed,
> Nor wind to blow.
>
> You who choose to lead must follow
> But if you fall you fall alone,
> If you should stand then whos to guide you?
> If I knew the way I would take you home. ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY
>Thanks for posting this. I spent a lovely evening surfing Grateful Dead videos. Who knew? I think I must have been in a very different frame of mind when i encountered them the first time.
jane
Posted by gardenergirl on September 8, 2012, at 19:29:44
In reply to Thanks for the link » gardenergirl, posted by jane d on September 8, 2012, at 0:42:49
I discovered I was a latent Deadhead. :)
> Thanks for posting this. I spent a lovely evening surfing Grateful Dead videos. Who knew? I think I must have been in a very different frame of mind when i encountered them the first time.
>
> jane
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