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Posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 5:45:17
Its such a negative approach to solving problems. Everything is a disease, executive disfunction? adhd... bla bla bla.. Wouldnt it be enough to say that an individual has trouble in a certain area of life that needs improvement?
Wouldnt it be enough to simply prescribe medications as a form of enhancement of particular aspects of life?This disease model stinks, different doctors have given me a myriad of diagnoses and i seriously wonder about the fact that there is no consistency whatsoever in what they are diagnosing me with. It seems pretty random to me.
Basically, what they are saying is that im utterly f*ck*d up. Is this needed or of any help for me? Is it needed to convince people that they are broken? I seriously wonder if people where actually broken before they got labeled as mentally ill. If you keep telling someone he is sick (where is the blood test?) He may actually break as a result of these harsh judgements. Its like telling a kid that its stupid and worthless. How will that kid feel in the remainder of his life? Thats right stupid and worthless.
Is this of any help? Shouldnt doctors build up on the positive aspects of ones personality, on the resources instead of labeling every weakness as a disease?
Just trying to provoke some reflection on wether or not this is a helpful way of mental health. This is more of a mental disease system than a mental health system.
Is anyone with me?
Posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 6:35:15
In reply to Is anyone else fed up with DSM?, posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 5:45:17
How about focusing on coming up with solutions rather than all sorts of "diseases". I have heard someone say "i am bipolar depression". Thats funny i didnt think bipolar depression is actually a person.
Posted by Dinah on August 23, 2012, at 8:24:11
In reply to Is anyone else fed up with DSM?, posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 5:45:17
But not for the same reason as you, I think.
I'm simply appalled something that ought to be based on medicine and science is instead based on committee and consensus and prevailing politics. People rarely fit neatly in the slots prepared for us, and doctors try to ram us into them whether or not they fit. Everything we do gets interpreted through the lens of a flawed document.
Posted by Phillipa on August 23, 2012, at 10:30:16
In reply to Me! Me! Me!, posted by Dinah on August 23, 2012, at 8:24:11
I agree I resent being put into a category. "Hi I'm OCD". Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 11:15:00
In reply to Re: Me! Me! Me! » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on August 23, 2012, at 10:30:16
Heeeey OCD! Long time no see :)
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on August 23, 2012, at 20:46:04
In reply to Re: Me! Me! Me!, posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 11:15:00
It does seem to be turning normal feelings and personality traits into illnesses, expanding the boundries of what should be treated with potent drugs
Posted by Phillipa on August 23, 2012, at 20:57:46
In reply to Re: Me! Me! Me!, posted by jono_in_adelaide on August 23, 2012, at 20:46:04
Definitely Phillipa
Posted by Raisinb on August 23, 2012, at 21:05:09
In reply to Is anyone else fed up with DSM?, posted by Lamdage22 on August 23, 2012, at 5:45:17
Not to mention the modeling they use is completely whack. Listing groups of symptoms that rely on subjective assessment of an interviewer who might not even know the patient that well--that's not a good way to diagnose.
Every time I read DSM formulations, it sounds like I have basically everything in there. And, they keep having to add new diseases to the thing. To me, those are both signs of a broken system that needs to be retooled from the beginning.
I also notice that the best mental health providers I've had so far are not reliant on the DSM diagnoses and often seem contemptuous of it.
Posted by sleepygirl2 on August 23, 2012, at 22:02:01
In reply to Re: Me! Me! Me! » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Phillipa on August 23, 2012, at 20:57:46
But does the DSM say that every disorder should be treated with drugs?
Posted by Phillipa on August 24, 2012, at 20:23:11
In reply to Re: Me! Me! Me! » Phillipa, posted by sleepygirl2 on August 23, 2012, at 22:02:01
Depending on whether personality disorder, or depression/anxiety. Some can be treated with theraphy without drugs. Just what I'm thinking Phillipa
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