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Posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 11:51:50
Wow board out of control. So what's the vote are meds good or bad do they work or not. Should be all cold turkey ours? Are our brains damaged? Will be get Alzheimers? Which are the worst. Are supplements good or bad. Is excercise good or bad. What to do? See my brain is damaged as it can no longer make a rational decision. Yup it's damaged. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 12:06:07
In reply to Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 11:51:50
http://www.afterpsychotherapy.com/bad-reasons-to-take-an-antidepressant/
Posted by herpills on May 17, 2012, at 12:12:32
In reply to Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 11:51:50
> Wow board out of control. So what's the vote are meds good or bad do they work or not.
Some meds are good. Some meds are bad. Some meds work. Some meds don't.
Posted by SLS on May 17, 2012, at 12:57:27
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!! » Phillipa, posted by herpills on May 17, 2012, at 12:12:32
> > Wow board out of control. So what's the vote are meds good or bad do they work or not.
> Some meds are good. Some meds are bad. Some meds work. Some meds don't.Not only that, but the same medication can work or not work, depending on the person being treated by it.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on May 17, 2012, at 13:42:46
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by SLS on May 17, 2012, at 12:57:27
> > > Wow board out of control. So what's the vote are meds good or bad do they work or not.
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> > Some meds are good. Some meds are bad. Some meds work. Some meds don't.
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> Not only that, but the same medication can work or not work, depending on the person being treated by it.
Also...One should not confuse the tools with the vendor or the mechanic.
- Scott
Posted by Twinleaf on May 17, 2012, at 19:55:00
In reply to Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 11:51:50
Hi Phillipa - I keep noticing that you keep hoping for a degree of certainty about medications which just doesn't seem within the realm of possibility. It might really give you peace of mind, after you have done the careful research which you always do, to decide that you have made the best possible choice for yourself, and then try to live comfortably with that. Thinking in extremes of "all good" or "all bad" almost guarantees that you will not be satisfied.If you don't feel your medications are in your best interests, you can slowly change one at a time until , hopefully, you are reasonably satisfied. I think that is what everyone here is trying to do. There are many examples of posters who have essentially recovered when they find the right medications, and even more of ones who have been helped, although not to the point of remission, and who are still making changes. There are also people who feel they have not been helped, or have been damaged, by the medications they have tried in good faith. This is very real for the people involved, but they are the least numerous group.
Posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 20:18:31
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Twinleaf on May 17, 2012, at 19:55:00
I realize this is true. I was reacting to the recent posting patterns and then when google "are meds good or bad" really kind of for fun that's what I found. Personally it had nothing to do with me. At this point I'm ready to go back to how it was before nursing when as I called it I became medicanilized. A kind of brain washing. Before that all was natural. I believed l00% in Shaklee supplements and attended even classes on them. Hey that stuff was really good then. No idea how it is now. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on May 17, 2012, at 22:49:01
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!! » Twinleaf, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 20:18:31
> At this point I'm ready to go back to how it was before nursing when as I called it I became medicanilized. A kind of brain washing.
I don't understand. What do you mean by "medicanilized"? What were you brainwashed into thinking?
- Scott
Posted by Twinleaf on May 18, 2012, at 1:13:39
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!! » Twinleaf, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 20:18:31
But, Phillip, it does have to do with you. You have posted numerous times how ambivalent you feel about your medications. I believe that the benzos seem, mostly, as a positive but that you don't have any clear idea whether the SSRIs are helpful to you or not. Wouldn't you like to find out? You have said that you can't get off the Luvox, but you could use very low doses of Prozac to accomplish that, and then see where you stand; using one of the depression scales could help you be objective. The way things are now, you are just beset by uncertainty and confusion.
Posted by Dinah on May 18, 2012, at 16:02:30
In reply to Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Phillipa on May 17, 2012, at 11:51:50
I have a natural inclination for the middle, and tend to reject extremes.
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2012, at 20:09:45
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!! » Phillipa, posted by SLS on May 17, 2012, at 22:49:01
Simple went from believing that vitamins/supplements were the best. Nursing taught the opposite that meds were to cure all for all illness. Funny my ob-gyn at the time told me to take B6 before menstration for water gain and it worked still take today. That's just an example. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2012, at 20:58:28
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Twinleaf on May 18, 2012, at 1:13:39
Twinleaf not ambivalent just don't feel they ever were the answers to my problems. Now I'm stuck on the dumb low dose luvox. The Lexapro is easy to stop. Almost down to zero on doses of benzos strange that after 35 years or so that I require less. And they don't work I guess just keep things from being worse than they are. Phillipa
Posted by Twinleaf on May 19, 2012, at 7:43:55
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Twinleaf on May 18, 2012, at 1:13:39
I guess the situation with the benzos is that you have become habituated to the low doses you are taking. They probably no longer provide anxiety relief as well as they did, but keeping on taking them avoids the problems of withdrawal.
As to the Luvox and Lexapro, I don't know whether they are helpful, as you haven't described any improvement in your depressive feelings . Do you think they have ever been helpful to you?
Posted by Phillipa on May 19, 2012, at 19:16:12
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Twinleaf on May 19, 2012, at 7:43:55
Depends on the life situations. If happy yes if not happy no. Phillipa
Posted by Twinleaf on May 20, 2012, at 0:50:40
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Phillipa on May 19, 2012, at 19:16:12
If I understand correctly, you are saying that your mood is influenced by your life circumstances, but not by the SSRIs. You don't see them as at all helpful?
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 19:03:34
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by Twinleaf on May 20, 2012, at 0:50:40
Nope discontinued the lexapro last night. Luvox will be the tough one. Phillipa
Posted by TiredofChemicals on May 21, 2012, at 20:19:54
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!! » Twinleaf, posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2012, at 20:58:28
Some true wisdom being shared here. I hope to be pro-active in my pursuit of happiness. Circumstances have contributed to a less than desirable existence for me. It isn't easy to change; lifelong, learned habits and ways of negative thought.
In my own defense, I didn't totally create my own version of a living hell. I was brought into this world with a person dealing with mental issues as well, and that contributed significantly, to my overall state of well being, or lack thereof.
Regards
Posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2012, at 21:39:46
In reply to Re: Meds are Good Meds are Bad Wow Confused!!!!, posted by TiredofChemicals on May 21, 2012, at 20:19:54
Me too!!!
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