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Posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:01:38
Seem the only people left on babble are people telling you meds are bad, or the ones that are disabled by them telling you after 20years there great.
Posted by Phil on April 26, 2012, at 13:23:59
In reply to MED, exit, posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:01:38
I read on my own and then talk to my doctor. Babble ain't what it once was...there used to be a lot more opinions. I take everything with a grain of salt and I think the truth about meds usually lies somewhere in the middle.
There seems to be more and more people online saying that meds are bad. Not some meds, all meds. It's just not true.
Posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:58:53
In reply to Re: MED, exit » zerozone, posted by Phil on April 26, 2012, at 13:23:59
Your right phil,i would be lost without mine.
Posted by Zyprexa on April 26, 2012, at 18:01:57
In reply to Re: MED, exit, posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:58:53
Meds are great!! Could not live without mine. I've been taking zyprexa for 14 years now, and its always been good for me. I will admit that I've have bad experiences with other meds. But the ones I take now are life savers!!
I think people think meds are bad in the beginning stages of illness, because they don't want to take them or don't think they need them. Like me back in 97. Also there are the people who think they are bad because they just have not found the right ones. My theories.
Posted by Phillipa on April 26, 2012, at 18:24:00
In reply to Re: MED, exit, posted by Zyprexa on April 26, 2012, at 18:01:57
Interesting as have seen the same saw my pdoc today and literally asked him if true. He kind of hemmed and hawed as he's old school. And said what we already know that meds can work for many years on a person and then stop working. He let me up my lexapro to 5mg too. Also told me to take motrin for pain that my dose of this was too low. All this despite warnings on meds. Now he's an addictions pdoc so he is against narcotic meds. So all in all I got the feeling he felt they are safe. And with malpractice why would he risk his income by prescribing dangerous or bad meds? Phillipa
Posted by JohnLA on April 26, 2012, at 23:58:53
In reply to MED, exit, posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:01:38
hi zerozone-
i'm a bit of a newbie here. less than a year. not sure how it was in the 'old days.' i hear a lot about how babble is now not what it once was. that's a bummer i guess. things inevitably change.
i do agree with you; seems like many are complaining about meds.
i just wish i could find a med that can make me feel better...
john
Posted by bleauberry on April 28, 2012, at 8:27:40
In reply to MED, exit, posted by zerozone on April 26, 2012, at 13:01:38
Meds can be very useful. I don't take them daily but when things are really bad I'm glad they are there.
I don't really agree with the premise of this post because I just have not seen "the only people left on babble are telling you meds are bad..." Sorry, I just haven't seen that.
And besides which, they are bad. They are also good. It isn't one or the other. It's both. It depends more on how the patient manages the med than it does the actual med, imo
I see a lot of support for one another here and a lot of sharing of ideas. That's a cool thing I think. There will always be opinions from the opposite side of the spectrum no matter what walk of life we're talking about. That's normal and human. The wider the picture we can see, the better, imo. So I welcome opposing viewpoints. It helps to strengthen my own or to understand where someone else is coming from.
I've been coming to psychobabble for 15 years or so, something like that. Long time. Comparing pbabble today to pbabble back then, I think back then there were more 'hardcore' patients, fewer 'garden variety' patients, and there were always a handful of 'expert patients' who really knew their stuff. But that's just my perception and could be wrong. Basically I do not think pbabble has changed at all over the years other than it being a little bit less 'heavy duty' today than it used to be. But still pretty much the same and by far best psych forum on the web.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 28, 2012, at 9:21:08
In reply to Re: MED, exit, posted by bleauberry on April 28, 2012, at 8:27:40
> Meds can be very useful. I don't take them daily but when things are really bad I'm glad they are there.
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> I don't really agree with the premise of this post because I just have not seen "the only people left on babble are telling you meds are bad..." Sorry, I just haven't seen that.
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> And besides which, they are bad. They are also good. It isn't one or the other. It's both. It depends more on how the patient manages the med than it does the actual med, imo
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> I see a lot of support for one another here and a lot of sharing of ideas. That's a cool thing I think. There will always be opinions from the opposite side of the spectrum no matter what walk of life we're talking about. That's normal and human. The wider the picture we can see, the better, imo. So I welcome opposing viewpoints. It helps to strengthen my own or to understand where someone else is coming from.
>
> I've been coming to psychobabble for 15 years or so, something like that. Long time. Comparing pbabble today to pbabble back then, I think back then there were more 'hardcore' patients, fewer 'garden variety' patients, and there were always a handful of 'expert patients' who really knew their stuff. But that's just my perception and could be wrong. Basically I do not think pbabble has changed at all over the years other than it being a little bit less 'heavy duty' today than it used to be. But still pretty much the same and by far best psych forum on the web.bleau,
You wrote,[...pbabble...by far the best psych forum on the web...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by what you wrote here.
If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you.
A. What criteria did you use, if any, to substantiate your claim in question?
B. Have you visited all of the psych forums on the web?
C. Is it that there are pages of outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung and his deputy and past depuuties that go back days, weeks, months and years that could in your opinion make this site the best by far of the psychh forums?
D. If not, have you examined my requests to Mr. Hsiung that are outstanding?
E. If you have not, would you be willing to examine those outstanding requests from me on the administrative board?
F. If you have, could you post your rationale, if any, for your claim that this site is by far the best psych forum on the web and how the fact of the outstanding requests are or are not a part of your claim?
G. Is it, in your opinion, if you have examined the outstanding requests from me, good for this community as a whole to have an administrative board that has outstanding requests from me that go back even years?
H. Do you have an opinion concerning that if the requests were responded to by the administration, something could happen? If so, could you post here what that could be?
G. (redatced by respondent)
Lou
Posted by Phil on April 28, 2012, at 9:26:34
In reply to Re: MED, exit, posted by bleauberry on April 28, 2012, at 8:27:40
The biggest change, to me, is just the sheer volume of members. I agree about the severity of what posters used to deal with seemed worse back then.
There are still a few smart people here like there was back then but I still miss Cam and St James.
Posted by Christ_empowered on April 28, 2012, at 17:04:48
In reply to Re: MED, exit, posted by Phil on April 28, 2012, at 9:26:34
I'm over hating meds, but I am skeptical. I do better now keeping the meds minimal and doing things (lots of antioxidants, orthomolecular style) to prevent+treat side effects than I ever did with lots of benzos and stimulants and therapy.
My opinion on psychiatry has really changed, too. I think psychiatry is helpful if you have severe problems, but I'm not so sure it helps in more moderate cases of various "issues." In fact, I think in those cases they can cause more harm than good, just in my opinion.
Unfortunately for me, I am one of those people with severe issues. I'm glad I can take Abilify and not, I dunno, high dose haldol or something, but its still a less-than-ideal situation. Just gotta accept it, I guess.
Posted by bleauberry on April 29, 2012, at 15:05:59
In reply to Lou's request-wutmykzitdhabez? » bleauberry, posted by Lou Pilder on April 28, 2012, at 9:21:08
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> bleau,
> You wrote,[...pbabble...by far the best psych forum on the web...].
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by what you wrote here.
> If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you.
> A. What criteria did you use, if any, to substantiate your claim in question?Opinion.
What criteria do you use to define best.?> B. Have you visited all of the psych forums on the web?
All except the ones I didn't.
Have you?> C. Is it that there are pages of outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung and his deputy and past depuuties that go back days, weeks, months and years that could in your opinion make this site the best by far of the psychh forums?
No that's an isolated separate issue.
Do you think you, me, or anyone are entitled to anybody engaging in communication with us just because we want them to?> D. If not, have you examined my requests to Mr. Hsiung that are outstanding?
No, sorry.
What are you eating for dinner tonight?> E. If you have not, would you be willing to examine those outstanding requests from me on the administrative board?
Maybe.
Would you be willing to examine all of my videos at the channel jlafolle1 on youtube?
Let me know the name of the music video you like the best on the channel please?> F. If you have, could you post your rationale, if any, for your claim that this site is by far the best psych forum on the web and how the fact of the outstanding requests are or are not a part of your claim?
Opinion.
Did I say I was rating the psych forum or the administration of the website?> G. Is it, in your opinion, if you have examined the outstanding requests from me, good for this community as a whole to have an administrative board that has outstanding requests from me that go back even years?
Yes.
After dinner what's for dessert?> H. Do you have an opinion concerning that if the requests were responded to by the administration, something could happen? If so, could you post here what that could be?
No opinion on that and I feel it is none of my business.
> G. (redatced by respondent)
No opinion on that either.
> Lou
Can you find me what is, in your opinion, the best psych forum on the web?
And don't forget, youtube, jlafolle1
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 6, 2012, at 7:26:22
In reply to Re: Lou's request-wutmykzitdhabez?, posted by bleauberry on April 29, 2012, at 15:05:59
> >
> > bleau,
> > You wrote,[...pbabble...by far the best psych forum on the web...].
> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by what you wrote here.
> > If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you.
> > A. What criteria did you use, if any, to substantiate your claim in question?
>
> Opinion.
> What criteria do you use to define best.?
>
> > B. Have you visited all of the psych forums on the web?
>
> All except the ones I didn't.
> Have you?
>
> > C. Is it that there are pages of outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung and his deputy and past depuuties that go back days, weeks, months and years that could in your opinion make this site the best by far of the psychh forums?
>
> No that's an isolated separate issue.
> Do you think you, me, or anyone are entitled to anybody engaging in communication with us just because we want them to?
>
> > D. If not, have you examined my requests to Mr. Hsiung that are outstanding?
>
> No, sorry.
> What are you eating for dinner tonight?
>
> > E. If you have not, would you be willing to examine those outstanding requests from me on the administrative board?
>
> Maybe.
> Would you be willing to examine all of my videos at the channel jlafolle1 on youtube?
> Let me know the name of the music video you like the best on the channel please?
>
> > F. If you have, could you post your rationale, if any, for your claim that this site is by far the best psych forum on the web and how the fact of the outstanding requests are or are not a part of your claim?
>
> Opinion.
> Did I say I was rating the psych forum or the administration of the website?
>
> > G. Is it, in your opinion, if you have examined the outstanding requests from me, good for this community as a whole to have an administrative board that has outstanding requests from me that go back even years?
>
> Yes.
> After dinner what's for dessert?
>
> > H. Do you have an opinion concerning that if the requests were responded to by the administration, something could happen? If so, could you post here what that could be?
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> No opinion on that and I feel it is none of my business.
>
> > G. (redatced by respondent)
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> No opinion on that either.
>
> > Lou
>
> Can you find me what is, in your opinion, the best psych forum on the web?
>
> And don't forget, youtube, jlafolle1
>
> bleau,
You wrote, "yes" to a request from me to you that asked you if in your opinion it is good for this community as a whole to have an administrative board that have outstanding requests from me that go back even years. I am unsure as to what your rationale could be for your response to my request to be "yes'. If you could post answers to the following, hen I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. What is your rationale, if any, to have the opinion that it is good for this community to have outstanding requests from me that go back even years?
B. Have you seen the post by me requesting to Mr. Hsiung to post as to if a statement that I think could arouse antisemitic feelings is supportive according to him or not? If not, here is a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1017247.html
C. Could you post from your perspective in that thread, if you have examined the content and see that my request is to post as to if the statement in question is supportive or not, as to if in your opinion the statement is supportive or not?
D. If you have examined the situation in question, do you agree that Jews and others that do not accept the claim in question could be subjected to violence and hate by people that read that post and see that it is allowed to stand by a psychiatrist, that is the drafter of the rules for the forum, so that since Mr. Hsiung states that support takes precedence, that the statement could be considered supportive by some?
E. In your opinion, could others that examine the situation in regards to the statement in question that I am requesting for Mr. Hsiung to state if he considers it to be supportive or not, could then some others think that it is good for this community as a whole to promulgate that the statement in question is supportive, which then could lead to a (false)thinking that those that accept the claim are superior to Jews and others that do not accept the claim and thearfore the statement could lead Jews and the others that do not accept the claim and believe that they can have forgiveness and eternal life by another means other than accepting (redacted by respondent)Jesus as (redacted by respondent), to feel put down?
Lou
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