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Posted by linkadge on January 6, 2012, at 20:11:12
Most of the medications I've taken have stripped me of my dignity.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on January 6, 2012, at 21:24:12
In reply to Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by linkadge on January 6, 2012, at 20:11:12
> Most of the medications I've taken have stripped me of my dignity.
Gaining 50 pounds on Abilify hasn't helped mine.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2012, at 21:37:13
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by SLS on January 6, 2012, at 21:24:12
Not working doesn't help either Phillipa
Posted by Bob on January 6, 2012, at 22:29:42
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2012, at 21:37:13
And neither does not being able to function sexually for me.
Posted by linkadge on January 7, 2012, at 10:28:09
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Bob on January 6, 2012, at 22:29:42
Thats what I am talking about. They may restore sanity, but they don't restore dignity.
Linkadge
Posted by Christ_empowered on January 7, 2012, at 15:33:08
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity » Bob, posted by linkadge on January 7, 2012, at 10:28:09
Not to sound like an anti-psychiatry/angry ex-patient kind of person, but...psychiatry has never been terribly interested in maintaining or restoring the dignity of those who, one way or another, end up in "the system."
Posted by sigismund on January 7, 2012, at 16:31:11
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Christ_empowered on January 7, 2012, at 15:33:08
It is important to keep the drugs free of pleasant (side?) effects to avoid them becoming drugs of abuse.
So we have.....'The drugs don't make you feel good, they just correct a chemical imbalance so you can blahbity blah.'
If a mechanic used his tool kit on your car somewhat randomly as psychiatry does it would be so much the worse for the car.
Posted by Beckett on January 10, 2012, at 0:17:48
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by sigismund on January 7, 2012, at 16:31:11
Thinking about it, I think psychiatry can fall to using it's medical tools (or would like to) as if patients were cars.
As I see it. Gears, hydraulics, receptors, ion channels.
My warranty has near expired.
There is a line from a Wilco song, not at all morbid if you hear it in context, "I know I would die if I could come back new."
Posted by sigismund on January 10, 2012, at 13:39:44
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Beckett on January 10, 2012, at 0:17:48
> "I know I would die if I could come back new."
Do you think that is the meaning of that thing from the Tibetan Book of the Dead, that the passing spirit is captivated by the sight of mating couples (I didn't make this up) and ignores the teachings and ends up in another incarnation? The way Wilco puts it is so attractive, and I have often felt it really should be resisted.
Posted by Beckett on January 12, 2012, at 12:44:36
In reply to Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by linkadge on January 6, 2012, at 20:11:12
My current psychiatrist treats me with dignity.
Can this be part of the discussion?
Posted by SLS on January 12, 2012, at 16:08:50
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Beckett on January 12, 2012, at 12:44:36
> My current psychiatrist treats me with dignity.
I'm sure that helps. Do you feel that your doctor has an appreciation for the unwanted effects of drugs?
- Scott
Posted by Beckett on January 13, 2012, at 12:50:25
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity » Beckett, posted by sigismund on January 10, 2012, at 13:39:44
> The way Wilco puts it is so attractive, and I have often felt it really should be resisted.
I think Tweedy was dealing with migraines, depression, and pain-killers during that period. I imagine it could be pretty shaky. I know little about Tibetiean philosophy or Buddhist thought.
Posted by Beckett on January 13, 2012, at 13:01:39
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity » Beckett, posted by SLS on January 12, 2012, at 16:08:50
> > Do you feel that your doctor has an appreciation for the unwanted effects of drugs?
I believe he does, though it is limited because I do not believe he is a consumer.
When I had difficulties recently he spent time considering which of the meds (AAP's) to prescribe me given my constellation of symptoms which include which sx's I tend toward.
So yes. I would say he understands that in treatment algorithm, a patient with the least amount of sx's is a better functioning patient.
Posted by papillon on January 15, 2012, at 5:56:55
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity, posted by Beckett on January 13, 2012, at 13:01:39
I think in many ways medication can RESTORE dignity.
Being so depressed that you can barely walk, speak, move, think, eat, drink is not exactly dignified.
Posted by EERR11CC on January 17, 2012, at 0:58:44
In reply to Re: Drugs that keep ones dignity » Bob, posted by linkadge on January 7, 2012, at 10:28:09
What is particularly baffling and annoying is that people tend to see other peoples use of psychiatric drugs as a lifestyle choice.
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