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Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 13:51:42
This involves service members who die by suicide while serving in combat zones.
It's about **** time.
As a human being and especially as a military retiree, it horrified me a while back when I learned this *was* the policy. {shaking head}
Changing societal views on MI and suicide is a slow process, but when anyone can get any part of the fed gov't to do so, it's something. Like making a sharp left turn w/an aircraft carrier, but it *can* be done through persistence.
(Maybe does not go on this board but I wasn't sure where it fit and hoped many might see it....seemed very *off* to put on Social....)
Posted by floatingbridge on July 7, 2011, at 18:38:54
In reply to White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 13:51:42
10derheart, I had no idea. Thank you for posting this.
Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 19:43:58
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy » 10derheart, posted by floatingbridge on July 7, 2011, at 18:38:54
Posted by linkadge on July 7, 2011, at 19:48:16
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy » 10derheart, posted by floatingbridge on July 7, 2011, at 18:38:54
I think that the next step is to stop covering up suicides. Every time a suicide is covered up I think that somebody died in vain. A suicide is a message that should be heard by everybody.
Suicide is a signal of pain in the 'organism' of society. It is a signal of pain that means something and should not be covered up.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2011, at 20:58:40
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by linkadge on July 7, 2011, at 19:48:16
I do know from my Son who is currently working for the veterans a new project sorry can't name that more will be done for Veterans in the future. He used to work for a volunteer oranization out of DC Veterans Of Modern Warfare. Might wish to google it and see what's happening on that site also. Thanks l0der I keep forgetting you are a surviving Hero!!!! Phillipa
Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 22:39:24
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2011, at 20:58:40
Thanks, but although I am very grateful for being able to serve for 22 years, I am certainly NO hero. I never served in a combat zone or was even deployed, though I wanted to be. Just wasn't in the cards, I guess.
The ones who never came home are the heroes along with the mentally and physically wounded, though many survivors deny that label as they were doing a job for their country that they chose and knew the risks.
Your son is a hero, IMO. Hope he's doing well.
Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 22:40:34
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by linkadge on July 7, 2011, at 19:48:16
Well said, link. I agree.
Posted by floatingbridge on July 7, 2011, at 22:58:14
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2011, at 20:58:40
Phillipa, ditto 10derheart about your son. Hugs.
Posted by SLS on July 8, 2011, at 5:18:16
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy » linkadge, posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 22:40:34
> Well said, link. I agree.
Me, too. Well said.
- Scott
Posted by sigismund on July 8, 2011, at 15:42:28
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by linkadge on July 7, 2011, at 19:48:16
Yes, Link, absolutely.
Posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2011, at 20:00:09
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy » Phillipa, posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2011, at 22:39:24
Thanks l0der and FB he is is working on a paying pretty big bucks job for the veterans. Also getting married again in Sept. Phillipa
Posted by mtdewcmu on July 9, 2011, at 13:25:22
In reply to Re: White House Changes Condolence Letter Policy, posted by linkadge on July 7, 2011, at 19:48:16
> I think that the next step is to stop covering up suicides. Every time a suicide is covered up I think that somebody died in vain. A suicide is a message that should be heard by everybody.
>
> Suicide is a signal of pain in the 'organism' of society. It is a signal of pain that means something and should not be covered up.I don't know if you can blame all suicides on society. When I think about all the hardship I am likely to face in the rest of my life, I think it would be easier to die. But I can't face the fear of death, and I can't stand the thought of people finding my dead body. It's just a nasty mental image. Somehow I can't wrap my brain around the concept of life coming to an end, permanently. It's just hard to believe that it really can end, even though I'm aware that everyone dies eventually. I think I irrationally fear that I would come to regret it somehow, even though that's impossible. If the US had a stronger social safety net, like most countries in Europe, I think I'd have less to fear about the future. But would that make it society's fault? I don't believe the people who say that suicide is the ultimate selfish act. But it does make it harder for the living. The suicide of someone you know is something you can never forget. I get kind of choked up just thinking about the suicides of people I don't know. I think if there's any way you can help it, you owe it to those of us who have to go on living to stick it out as long as possible. Life is hard enough without being witness to someone else's suicide.
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