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Posted by djmmm on March 28, 2003, at 21:47:29
Has anyone had an experience where Omega-3 and or Omega-6 has caused a mania or hypomania?, the same question applys to those who have NOT been diagnosed with a bipolar disorder.
After my first dose of a mixed Omega 3,6 supplement, I noticed a profound change in my mood indicitive of a hypomanic episode...insomnia, feeling like Im "on top of the world," contacting and setting up 6 different volunteer activities, excessive cleaning, rearanging furnature, and starting a digitial art project and a mosaic tile art project, new gardening designs and plans, some racing thoughts...inability to finish or decide which "project" to do, a strange witty sense of humor, talking too much, overly confidant, lack of appetite
any help, insight, experiences would be greatly appreciated.
I Can't find adequate info on eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid CAUSING hypo/mania, all of my research texts suggest the opposite effect.
Posted by Mats on March 29, 2003, at 0:23:18
In reply to Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by djmmm on March 28, 2003, at 21:47:29
Maybe not Hypomania, but certain a elevating moodlift.
Posted by Darwin on March 29, 2003, at 0:24:19
In reply to Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by djmmm on March 28, 2003, at 21:47:29
There is a report of a woman who developed either hypomania or mania (I can't recall which) a few days after she started taking fish oil capsules providing EPA & DHA. She had never experienced a hypomanic episode before. Her conditioned resolved soon after she stopped the fish oil.
Dr Stoll's study demonstrated the effectiveness of fish oil in the treatment of bipolar patients. However, there were a couple of failures in the study in which patients developed mania while on the fish oil treatment. There were many failures in the placebo group but all (or nearly all) consisted of depressive episodes. There were no depressive episodes in the fish oil group. So, it appears that fish oil protects against depression better than it protects against mania.
With the possible exception of GLA, the omega-6 fatty acids are more likely to cause depression than mania. I did read a report on usenet from a bipolar who added Evening Primrose Oil (which provides GLA) to their regimen but later stopped because they felt they were becoming manic.
There are also reports of flax seed oil (which has a high omega-3 to omega-6 ratio) causing mania.
I would guess that it is the Omega-3 content of the supplement you took which is causing your hypomania and the Omega-6 content is low enough to be irrelevant.
Darwin
Posted by JohnV on March 29, 2003, at 2:18:32
In reply to Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by djmmm on March 28, 2003, at 21:47:29
Yes..yes..YES! I experienced it, and did have the references at one time, but it does occur. Also, many don't know, Evening Primrose Oil (with it's fatty acids) is contraindicated in people with seizures, schizophrenia, and anxiety. These things are powerful chemicals that the suppliment industry doesn't bother researching. Hope all is better. I'd stay away from "all" extra suppliments of these if you had any bad reaction, period.
Posted by djmmm on March 29, 2003, at 11:04:58
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Darwin on March 29, 2003, at 0:24:19
> There is a report of a woman who developed either hypomania or mania (I can't recall which) a few days after she started taking fish oil capsules providing EPA & DHA. She had never experienced a hypomanic episode before. Her conditioned resolved soon after she stopped the fish oil.
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> Dr Stoll's study demonstrated the effectiveness of fish oil in the treatment of bipolar patients. However, there were a couple of failures in the study in which patients developed mania while on the fish oil treatment. There were many failures in the placebo group but all (or nearly all) consisted of depressive episodes. There were no depressive episodes in the fish oil group. So, it appears that fish oil protects against depression better than it protects against mania.
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> With the possible exception of GLA, the omega-6 fatty acids are more likely to cause depression than mania. I did read a report on usenet from a bipolar who added Evening Primrose Oil (which provides GLA) to their regimen but later stopped because they felt they were becoming manic.
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> There are also reports of flax seed oil (which has a high omega-3 to omega-6 ratio) causing mania.
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> I would guess that it is the Omega-3 content of the supplement you took which is causing your hypomania and the Omega-6 content is low enough to be irrelevant.
>
> Darwin
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>Thanks Darwin, and everyone else who responded...
Darwin, the product Im taking is called "Flax Oil" Xtra, by a reputable supplement company.
If you are interested, I've listed the ingredients:
Flax Oil (seed) 1g. (1,000mg)
Alpha-Linolenic Acid (Omega-3) 530mgEvening Primrose Oil (seed) 950mg
Gammma-Linolenic Acid (omega-6) 86mgBorage Oil (seed) 50mg.
Gammma-Linolenic Acid (Omega-6) 10mgVitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 30 IU
Posted by Ed O`Flaherty on March 29, 2003, at 11:33:01
In reply to Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by djmmm on March 28, 2003, at 21:47:29
After Stoll published his article in the Archives in 1999 I remember reading in some journal that somebody got either manic or hypomanic for the first time after taking fish oil-it stoppped when he or she stoppped the omega-3.Stoll from what I have read of him believes that that is much more likely to occur after taking a variety of omega-3 which is not from fish-the main one being flax seed oil.Stoll is not too enthusiatic about flax seed oil because of that and favors the EPA and DHA of the fish version.His wife is involved in Omegabrite (www.omegabrite.com)
Posted by Darwin on March 30, 2003, at 15:41:33
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by djmmm on March 29, 2003, at 11:04:58
> Thanks Darwin, and everyone else who responded...
>
> Darwin, the product Im taking is called "Flax Oil" Xtra, by a reputable supplement company.
>
> If you are interested, I've listed the ingredients:
>
> Flax Oil (seed) 1g. (1,000mg)
> Alpha-Linolenic Acid (Omega-3) 530mg
>
> Evening Primrose Oil (seed) 950mg
> Gammma-Linolenic Acid (omega-6) 86mg
>
> Borage Oil (seed) 50mg.
> Gammma-Linolenic Acid (Omega-6) 10mg
>
> Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 30 IUWell, the product you are taking does not contain any EPA or DHA which is usually provided by fish oil. EPA and DHA are generally considered the preferred forms of Omega-3. The body can convert only a small percentage of the ALA in Flax Seed Oil to EPA. As Ed O`Flaherty mentioned, Dr. Stoll prefers fish oil over flax seed oil in treating bipolars because he believes that flax seed oil is more likely to cause manic episodes than fish oil. So, if you are concerned about the hypomania you experienced, you may want to try fish oil in place of "Flax Oil Xtra" which hopefully would provide a mild antidepressant effect without causing hypomania.
I find it fascinating that one dose of "Flax Seed Xtra" would throw you into hypomania. I wonder how much of the effect is due to the added GLA. I suspect that the flax seed oil alone would have the same effect but maybe not.
Actually the hypomania you described sounds wonderful to me. If it were not for the hard crash which sometimes follows, I would love to experience it.
Hope you land softly from your hypomania. Let us know how you are doing.
Darwin
Posted by djmmm on March 30, 2003, at 23:41:09
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Darwin on March 30, 2003, at 15:41:33
Thanks again, Darwin.
djmmm
Posted by Lilaki on May 16, 2008, at 21:27:54
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Darwin on March 30, 2003, at 15:41:33
Yes, that is amazing, I get hypomania on just 2 teaspoons of flax oil (mixed with cottage cheese, as part of the Budwig diet) but I tried flax oil in the past and alone it gave me annoying hypomania. My b/f took same dose as me today and felt nothing!
I am not diagnosed bipolar but when given an SSRI for past panic attacks/anxiety, that also made me hypomanic unless given with something like Klonopin or Zyprexa. I am just too sensitive and stay off it all.
It bothers me I can't consume flax oil because the combo of that with cottage cheese is like a wonder food, according to the German Biochemist Budwig!
Why does flax cause hypomania? I don't get gypomania on fish oil.
Posted by garylee on May 16, 2008, at 23:00:36
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Lilaki on May 16, 2008, at 21:27:54
> Yes, that is amazing, I get hypomania on just 2 teaspoons of flax oil (mixed with cottage cheese, as part of the Budwig diet) but I tried flax oil in the past and alone it gave me annoying hypomania. My b/f took same dose as me today and felt nothing!
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> I am not diagnosed bipolar but when given an SSRI for past panic attacks/anxiety, that also made me hypomanic unless given with something like Klonopin or Zyprexa. I am just too sensitive and stay off it all.
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> It bothers me I can't consume flax oil because the combo of that with cottage cheese is like a wonder food, according to the German Biochemist Budwig!
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> Why does flax cause hypomania? I don't get gypomania on fish oil.
LilakiThe hypomania sounds amzing! I haven't had a hypomania episode for a few years now (diagnosed BipolarII/NOS) and have suffered with constant flat mood/depression.
What dose of the flaxseed oil did you take to become hypomanic? I'd love to know as it is quite cheap too.
Thanks
Gary
Posted by Lilaki on June 6, 2011, at 21:59:06
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Lilaki on May 16, 2008, at 21:27:54
I get hypomanic with other foods high in omega 3 like egg yolks and lecithin as well.
Posted by Lamdage on June 10, 2011, at 8:38:46
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Lilaki on June 6, 2011, at 21:59:06
Gary: time to reconsider the diagnosis? Where meds involved in your hypomanic episode or did you go hyper all by yourself?
Posted by desolationrower on June 11, 2011, at 13:15:15
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by Lilaki on June 6, 2011, at 21:59:06
how does daily aspirin affect your mood?
-d/r
Posted by Lilaki on June 22, 2011, at 12:24:18
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by garylee on May 16, 2008, at 23:00:36
Hi Gary sorry I missed your reply. Though its 2 years old hope you eventually see this or that it might be helpful to others.
For me hypomania wasn't amazing. Some people get a euphoria but mine is more like a very uncomfortable, irritable, akathesia-like, pressed mood when it comes from these foods or supplements.
The hypomania I got from SSRIs if no mood stabilizer or benzodiazepine was even more intense and I would just do really stupid, immature things and get giddy.
The euphoria that some experience when hypomanic or mania I only experienced when I took flu medicine that had pseudoephedrine. At first I had a horrible panic attack after taking it and then I felt euphoria for hours.
My doctor just prescribed me to get a liver test (and some other tests) to see if that's why I have intense side effects to certain foods and medications.
Other than the above I do not get hypomanic on my own. I am diagnosed on the autistic spectrum and OCD.
When I took the flax oil I took probably one teaspoon each day for several days. When i stopped taking it the hypomania after some hours.
Try earthclinic.com if you're interested in some folk remedies to help with depression, etc.
Posted by Lilaki on June 22, 2011, at 12:29:33
In reply to Re: Omega-3 Omega-6 induced hypomania, posted by desolationrower on June 11, 2011, at 13:15:15
Hi d/r, I don't take daily aspirin. I tried taking regular aspirin and children's aspirin but they both upset my stomach and cause reflux (uncomfortable burning, gnawing, even when i took it with a glass of water and food). I normally don't have reflux unless I overeat and lay down. I was born with a hiatal hernia (little whole in diaphragm).
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