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Posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 13:05:29
I know SSRI's are the same class of med and each a bit different but what's in luvox that makes it so different than say lexapro? I can stop any SSRI cold turkey but the stinky 50mg of luvox? Must be a reason? Phillipa
Posted by torrid on June 9, 2011, at 17:12:19
In reply to Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 13:05:29
philipa are you still thinking about miltown? It's been on my mine. If I'm still bad with anxiety next month I'm going to ask the doc for a childs dose of miltown. I don't want to take a high dose of anything that may harm my liver. I think the cymbalta is hard on the liver and I'm on the highest dose already
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 18:24:30
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » Phillipa, posted by torrid on June 9, 2011, at 17:12:19
They still use Miltown in America?
God, its a mesuem piece, less effective than benzodiazepines (about half as potent as chlordiazepoxide, one of the milder benzos at releiving anxiety) yet more subject to dependence and addiction.
You'd be MUCH better off taking a low dose benzo (Valium 5mg twice a day for example) than meprobamate
Posted by Christ_empowered on June 9, 2011, at 19:00:18
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 18:24:30
yeah, they still make meprobamate, so I guess somebody's taking it. It is a good muscle relaxer, so maybe that's it? There used to be a drug around that combined miltown with aspirin or ibuprofen for bad headaches. Those were the days...
Anyway, something tells me Miltown would be more effective than Cymbalta at knocking out anxiety quickly. I mean, it used to be a best seller, right?
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 19:51:35
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by Christ_empowered on June 9, 2011, at 19:00:18
It might be better than cymbalta, but it is less effective than Valium, causes more problems with dependance, and causes more drowsiness..... its more closely allied to barbiturate sedatives than modern tranquiliser/anxiolytic drugs.
Why not ask your doctor for a trial of diazepam 5mg tabs - they work quickly, are long lasting, and are far safer than meprobamate
Posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 21:19:39
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 19:51:35
Back in the 70's was given mep with valium 5mg three times a day. No droziness at all it worked great as a combo. I guess took for a couple of years while choreographing and teaching Aerobic Dance own program and bringing up three children. One day said think I'll stop the mep and did no side effects at all. Soma breaks down into mep. Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 22:15:13
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 21:19:39
Think of it this way - back in the day when meprobamate was popular (1950's-60's) Bayer Aspirin was the #1 pain releiver in the world, but we have moved on from it, because newer drugs do the job both better and more safely.
The FDA stopped Meprobamate being refered to as a tranquiliser in the 1960's, because it was shown to not have specific anxiolytic effects, but just to be a simple sedative.
Posted by crazyjoe on June 9, 2011, at 23:13:28
In reply to Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 13:05:29
no one is answering the question why is luvox different than lexapro
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 23:35:28
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by crazyjoe on June 9, 2011, at 23:13:28
I dont think there is any objective evidence that it is worse - this poster might find it worse, where as I might find paroxetine worse, and you might find effexor harder to quit.
I'd try redicing that last 50mg in quater tablet (12.5mg) chunks, and maybe take a benzo as needed..... even 10 Valium from your doctor could help you ride out the rough patches
Posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 23:59:11
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 23:35:28
Soma breaks down into mephobomate sp? I seriously found it a life saver for me. Without it I don't know what would have happened. Mush search it again as it was stronger than the valium for sure for me. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 10, 2011, at 1:30:10
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by crazyjoe on June 9, 2011, at 23:13:28
> no one is answering the question why is luvox different than lexapro
Yes, crazyjoe. I'm waiting for someone to chime in. Wiki says it is different. Guess I'll need to reread wiki.
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Posted by floatingbridge on June 10, 2011, at 4:26:49
In reply to Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2011, at 13:05:29
Phillipa,
I'm just venturing an opinion. Before trying lexapro full on, what about upping your dose? You are currently below any significant therapeutic dose for anxiety.
Plus, your body already knows it.
I googled archives where people puzzled over it's potential therapeutic effects. Unless I'm missing something this pass, I don't see a down EXCEPT that diazepam was singled out as being less effective? (See Wikipedia.) This contradicts the few babble entries that claim luvox potentates all benzos.
Good luck.
And maybe someone can parse out the Valium contradiction for you. If not someone here, then maybe a call to your pdoc?
Plus see post below to crazyjoe and sigma one agonist.
Posted by crazyjoe on June 10, 2011, at 12:33:49
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 10, 2011, at 4:26:49
would luvox be considered harsher on your liver than lexapro?
Posted by Ben on June 10, 2011, at 12:35:45
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 23:35:28
Fluvoxamine and Paroxetine have both shorter half life than Citalopram or Sertralin or FLUOXETINE (5 days!). Most withdrawl problems come from too fast weaning off or from the short half life.
I hope this helps a little bit?
Posted by torrid on June 10, 2011, at 16:04:23
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 9, 2011, at 18:24:30
it's listed in my insurence formulary but my doc didn't want to write it and wrote klonipin wich isn't covered
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 10, 2011, at 17:43:18
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » jono_in_adelaide, posted by torrid on June 10, 2011, at 16:04:23
Thats a bit cruddy - could you find out which benzos are covered, and ask the doc for one of those?
Generic clonazepam shouldnt be that expensive even if you have to pay cash for the script your self.
Posted by torrid on June 10, 2011, at 19:03:27
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 10, 2011, at 17:43:18
no benzo's covered, I pay cash and between 20$-40$ a month, I know that sounds like it's not much but at my income level it's expensive.
Posted by Phillipa on June 10, 2011, at 20:10:45
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 10, 2011, at 4:26:49
Really was always told that ativan was the only benzo that didn't need to be dosed lower. Wiki on luvox? Or SSRI's Thanks Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 10, 2011, at 20:25:17
In reply to Re: Luvox why different from lexapro? Optimal dose? » jono_in_adelaide, posted by torrid on June 10, 2011, at 19:03:27
Damn, thats cruel..... how can they not cover ANY benzos?
Costco pharmacies will sell you 100 x 5mg Diazepam for under 10 dollars, 100 x 1mg lorazepam for $11.75, 100 x 0.5mg clonazepam for $11.13..... might be worth looking into?
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