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Posted by canary on April 16, 2011, at 4:58:33
In reply to Re: Day three of tianeptine taper, posted by sukarno on April 1, 2010, at 16:07:21
> This is the third day of being on only 12.5mg TID.
> The first thing I noticed when decreasing from 4 tablets to three tablets was a feeling of nervousness/jitters, so I had to take Valium and it helped somewhat.
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> Now I have a headache and yesterday had some heart palpitations that scared me. I guess my anxiety is cranked up a bit high, but not to the point of being unbearable. More strange dreams at night, but no trouble sleeping (Valium does a pretty good job at keeping me asleep.. 8 to 10 hours).
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> There is a dysphoria, but I increased my lightbox use from 2 hours/day to 3 hours/day and that helps a lot to offset that.
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> I'm holding on Valium 5mg QID until I get off Stablon, which I hope to discontinue at the end of April. If I have to, I will use more Valium temporarily to deal with any emergent withdrawal symptoms from Stablon.
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> It really is too bad that most psychiatric drugs cause physical dependence to one degree or another. :-(Hi,
I recently ordered tianeptine for depression, social anxiety.
I noticed that you have a long history with it. I have read some of your posts about your up and down experience with it.... you seemed to be having great success, but the most recent post I read, you had been discontinuing with it, stating "good riddance".
This alarmed me a bit. What went wrong after so long? Was it causing a horrible side effect?
Cheers and best of luck.
Posted by hyperfocus on April 16, 2011, at 20:43:07
In reply to Re: Day three of tianeptine taper, posted by canary on April 16, 2011, at 4:58:33
Not the original poster, but I didn't find monotherapy with tianeptine effective for my social anxiety and depression. It had a minor but noticeable effect on the depression and anxiety, but it never progressed much further than that. 37.5mg tianeptine take at once is a great mood booster but alas the effect only lasts for like 30 mins.
However I've found tianeptine + amitriptyline to be very effective for my severe social phobia and depression and dissociation. Right now I'm taking 200mg amitrip, 12.5mg tianeptine and .5mg risperidone and all my symptoms have improved significantly and I seem to be making progress.
Tianeptine is one of the few ADs found to have a neuroprotective effect on the brain and amitriptyline is the only AD studied so far found to stimulate BDNF. I've also read, recently, that risperidone is also neuroprotective. It's possible the improvement in my illness is due to these drugs 'repairing' parts of my brain like the hippocampus that have atrophied. If you have SA and depression then this combo is worth a shot.
Posted by floatingbridge on April 16, 2011, at 21:48:07
In reply to Re: Day three of tianeptine taper » canary, posted by hyperfocus on April 16, 2011, at 20:43:07
This sounds good hp.
Good luck canary.
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Posted by canary on April 17, 2011, at 1:14:41
In reply to Re: Day three of tianeptine taper » canary, posted by hyperfocus on April 16, 2011, at 20:43:07
> Not the original poster, but I didn't find monotherapy with tianeptine effective for my social anxiety and depression. It had a minor but noticeable effect on the depression and anxiety, but it never progressed much further than that. 37.5mg tianeptine take at once is a great mood booster but alas the effect only lasts for like 30 mins.
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> However I've found tianeptine + amitriptyline to be very effective for my severe social phobia and depression and dissociation. Right now I'm taking 200mg amitrip, 12.5mg tianeptine and .5mg risperidone and all my symptoms have improved significantly and I seem to be making progress.
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> Tianeptine is one of the few ADs found to have a neuroprotective effect on the brain and amitriptyline is the only AD studied so far found to stimulate BDNF. I've also read, recently, that risperidone is also neuroprotective. It's possible the improvement in my illness is due to these drugs 'repairing' parts of my brain like the hippocampus that have atrophied. If you have SA and depression then this combo is worth a shot.Thank you for sharing your experience and input. I think the other two drugs you mentioned are a bit hardcore for me at this stage. Looking for the lightest, most side effect free route.
Cheers anyway.
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