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Posted by pigglet on January 1, 2011, at 11:08:21
Hi, once again, I'm new here so I hope someone replies. I have BPI, GAD, and ADHD. Here's my new med combo as of Friday, I would appreciate thoughts/comments. My doc changed quite a few of my meds. (I have frequent mood episodes of mania, mixed and depressed mood.)
Saphris 15mg
Adderall XR 30mg
Buspar 45mg
Pristiq 50mg
Restoril 45mg
These were my previous meds:
Saphris 20mg (10mg bid)
Inderal 30mg (10mg tid)
Adderall 60mg (20mg tid)
Buspar 40mg (20mg bid)
and Vistaril 75mg prn at night.
Posted by Phillipa on January 1, 2011, at 13:11:13
In reply to Help, meds changed, posted by pigglet on January 1, 2011, at 11:08:21
Hi welcome to babble. I'm not a med expert but wanted you to know someone was paying attention to you. Why the discontinuation of restoril? A benzo was it all at once or taper? Are you sleeping? Hope someone with Bipolar I chimes in. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2011, at 16:44:01
In reply to Help, meds changed, posted by pigglet on January 1, 2011, at 11:08:21
> Hi, once again, I'm new here so I hope someone replies. I have BPI, GAD, and ADHD. Here's my new med combo as of Friday, I would appreciate thoughts/comments. My doc changed quite a few of my meds. (I have frequent mood episodes of mania, mixed and depressed mood.)
>
> Saphris 15mg
> Adderall XR 30mg
> Buspar 45mg
> Pristiq 50mg
> Restoril 45mg
>
>
>
>
> These were my previous meds:
> Saphris 20mg (10mg bid)
> Inderal 30mg (10mg tid)
> Adderall 60mg (20mg tid)
> Buspar 40mg (20mg bid)
> and Vistaril 75mg prn at night.pigglet,
You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
H. redacted by responent
Lou
Posted by pigglet on January 2, 2011, at 8:52:27
In reply to Lou's reply-ehyreshippyphoarmortm » pigglet, posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2011, at 16:44:01
>
> pigglet,
> You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
> B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
> C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
> D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
No, I didn't know.
> E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
> F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
> G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
> H. redacted by responent
> Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 11:30:24
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ehyreshippyphoarmortm, posted by pigglet on January 2, 2011, at 8:52:27
> >
> > pigglet,
> > You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> > I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
>
> No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
>
> > B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
>
> Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
>
>
> > C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
>
> I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
>
> > D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
>
> No, I didn't know.
>
> > E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
>
> No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
>
> > F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
>
> Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
>
> > G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
>
> I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
>
> > H. redacted by responent
> > Lou
>
> pigglet,
You wrote,[...No, I was not aware of that...Is it just the Adderall?...I didn't know that either... No, I didn't know...I had no idea...I assumed my pharmacist...].
The stats that I have say that about 40,000 people die each year from taking psychotropic drugs by one means or another. This number is unclear to me, for it could be just the people that die in the U.S. each year from these drugs. Now if it is only the US, then by some means of interpolation, there could be 600,000 people that die each year in the world. I base this on that around 2,000,000 people die each year from smoking related deaths and there are about 420,000 people in the US that die each year from smoking related diseases and illnesses aand such. There is also the question as to how many people die each year from psychotropic drugs and their deaths are reported as being from natural causes. They die from such things as cadiac arrest, but if they were taking these drugs, could not the drugs have caused the cardiac arrests? You see, families do not always want there to be a disection of their loved one that died and the funeral is swift without having an expert determine what caused their death. So some people give a 10 to one ratio of if the drugs caused the death. That could mean that then 400,000 people die each year from these drugs, if the figure of 40,000 is only for the U.S.. Some people give 100 to one as the ratio. That could mean then that 4,000,000 people die each year from psychotropic related events. So in the future, depending on how you interpret the stats, millions of people could die from these drugs.
Now the stats do say that the combining of psychhotropic drugs could cause in one way death by what is known as serotonin syndrome. The combination in question could fall into that catagory. You could use http:///www.drugs.com and use the drug interaction tab to see what they say. But there are other ways one could die , and in some cases suddenly, from taking psychotropic drugs.
Now it is my deep conviction that if one was to know as about what these drugs are, and where they came from and for what purpose, and knew of the historical development of them, and what they do to the nevous system and other systems and organs, that one could make a more informed decision as to taking the drugs or not.
I have a very broad background concerning these drugs and could be a partner to help you and could possibly save your life or possibly have you escape a life-ruining comdtion, or suicide, that these drugs have the potential to induce.
Your immediate question as to what you could do in relation to either stopping the drugs or not is not what my intentions are. My presence here is to educate which could give support for you to make your own determination. But look at the end of the road for people that take mind-altering drugs. Can it be known what is at that end? If so, is that where you want to be?
Lou
Posted by emilyp on January 2, 2011, at 12:43:00
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ehyreshippyphoarmortm, posted by pigglet on January 2, 2011, at 8:52:27
Pigglet
I rarely respond to threads with Lou Pilder's responses because his answers are almost 100% predictable. I am not saying that his views and opinions are necessarily wrong. And he is obviously entitled to them. But he clearly has a bias about many, many medications, especially when more than one drug is taken at a time.
If I were you reading his response I would be scared to death. I strongly recommend that you search this site for his responses to other posts so that you can see his point of view - that is, his response to you is not unique but rather a perspective he is trying to convey to everyone. More importantly, I strongly recommend that you talk to your doctor before you make any changes.
Although Lou may be knowledgeable about psychotropic drugs, he is not a doctor. And he has never really explained (at least to my knowledge) how he has gained his expertise.
Again, please do not make any changes without consulting your doctor. Stopping drugs immediately or making other changes could also be harmful.
Posted by 10derheart on January 2, 2011, at 18:27:25
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ehyreshippyphoarmortm » pigglet, posted by emilyp on January 2, 2011, at 12:43:00
Extremely sensible and wise advice, emily...I'm glad you posted it.
We all must ultimately take responsibility for our own meds and our own treatments, in partnership with our doctors and perhaps trusted family members and/or friends to assist as well.
As far as online forum advice.....well,, anonymity is a unique condition that seems to greatly influence both the sending and receiving of information. That's all I'll say. Perhaps it'll make some sense to someone.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 20:39:42
In reply to Lou's reply-dhaweygizofpsnizdehz » pigglet, posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 11:30:24
> > >
> > > pigglet,
> > > You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> > > I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > > A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
> >
> > No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
> >
> > > B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
> >
> > Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
> >
> >
> > > C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
> >
> > I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
> >
> > > D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
> >
> > No, I didn't know.
> >
> > > E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
> >
> > No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
> >
> > > F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
> >
> > Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
> >
> > > G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
> >
> > I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
> >
> > > H. redacted by responent
> > > Lou
> >
> > pigglet,
> You wrote,[...No, I was not aware of that...Is it just the Adderall?...I didn't know that either... No, I didn't know...I had no idea...I assumed my pharmacist...].
> The stats that I have say that about 40,000 people die each year from taking psychotropic drugs by one means or another. This number is unclear to me, for it could be just the people that die in the U.S. each year from these drugs. Now if it is only the US, then by some means of interpolation, there could be 600,000 people that die each year in the world. I base this on that around 2,000,000 people die each year from smoking related deaths and there are about 420,000 people in the US that die each year from smoking related diseases and illnesses aand such. There is also the question as to how many people die each year from psychotropic drugs and their deaths are reported as being from natural causes. They die from such things as cadiac arrest, but if they were taking these drugs, could not the drugs have caused the cardiac arrests? You see, families do not always want there to be a disection of their loved one that died and the funeral is swift without having an expert determine what caused their death. So some people give a 10 to one ratio of if the drugs caused the death. That could mean that then 400,000 people die each year from these drugs, if the figure of 40,000 is only for the U.S.. Some people give 100 to one as the ratio. That could mean then that 4,000,000 people die each year from psychotropic related events. So in the future, depending on how you interpret the stats, millions of people could die from these drugs.
> Now the stats do say that the combining of psychhotropic drugs could cause in one way death by what is known as serotonin syndrome. The combination in question could fall into that catagory. You could use http:///www.drugs.com and use the drug interaction tab to see what they say. But there are other ways one could die , and in some cases suddenly, from taking psychotropic drugs.
> Now it is my deep conviction that if one was to know as about what these drugs are, and where they came from and for what purpose, and knew of the historical development of them, and what they do to the nevous system and other systems and organs, that one could make a more informed decision as to taking the drugs or not.
> I have a very broad background concerning these drugs and could be a partner to help you and could possibly save your life or possibly have you escape a life-ruining comdtion, or suicide, that these drugs have the potential to induce.
> Your immediate question as to what you could do in relation to either stopping the drugs or not is not what my intentions are. My presence here is to educate which could give support for you to make your own determination. But look at the end of the road for people that take mind-altering drugs. Can it be known what is at that end? If so, is that where you want to be?
> LouFriends,
If you are considering being a discussant in this thread or parallel threads, I am requesting that you read the following article. If you could, I think that the information contained in the article could help in understanding some aspects of the discussion.
Lou
To see this article,
A. pull up Google
B. Type in:
[Psychotropic Drugs, Cardiac Arrhythmia and Sudden Death]
There could be many titles of this nature that could come up. In my search it is the second one using Google.
You will see that it is a PDF by Harry J. Witchel, PHD on 2003 cited by 102 related articles.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 21:16:14
In reply to Lou's request-edu23dhrtdth, posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 20:39:42
> > > >
> > > > pigglet,
> > > > You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> > > > I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > > > A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
> > >
> > > No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
> > >
> > > > B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
> > >
> > > Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > > C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
> > >
> > > I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
> > >
> > > > D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
> > >
> > > No, I didn't know.
> > >
> > > > E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
> > >
> > > No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
> > >
> > > > F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
> > >
> > > Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
> > >
> > > > G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
> > >
> > > I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
> > >
> > > > H. redacted by responent
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > pigglet,
> > You wrote,[...No, I was not aware of that...Is it just the Adderall?...I didn't know that either... No, I didn't know...I had no idea...I assumed my pharmacist...].
> > The stats that I have say that about 40,000 people die each year from taking psychotropic drugs by one means or another. This number is unclear to me, for it could be just the people that die in the U.S. each year from these drugs. Now if it is only the US, then by some means of interpolation, there could be 600,000 people that die each year in the world. I base this on that around 2,000,000 people die each year from smoking related deaths and there are about 420,000 people in the US that die each year from smoking related diseases and illnesses aand such. There is also the question as to how many people die each year from psychotropic drugs and their deaths are reported as being from natural causes. They die from such things as cadiac arrest, but if they were taking these drugs, could not the drugs have caused the cardiac arrests? You see, families do not always want there to be a disection of their loved one that died and the funeral is swift without having an expert determine what caused their death. So some people give a 10 to one ratio of if the drugs caused the death. That could mean that then 400,000 people die each year from these drugs, if the figure of 40,000 is only for the U.S.. Some people give 100 to one as the ratio. That could mean then that 4,000,000 people die each year from psychotropic related events. So in the future, depending on how you interpret the stats, millions of people could die from these drugs.
> > Now the stats do say that the combining of psychhotropic drugs could cause in one way death by what is known as serotonin syndrome. The combination in question could fall into that catagory. You could use http:///www.drugs.com and use the drug interaction tab to see what they say. But there are other ways one could die , and in some cases suddenly, from taking psychotropic drugs.
> > Now it is my deep conviction that if one was to know as about what these drugs are, and where they came from and for what purpose, and knew of the historical development of them, and what they do to the nevous system and other systems and organs, that one could make a more informed decision as to taking the drugs or not.
> > I have a very broad background concerning these drugs and could be a partner to help you and could possibly save your life or possibly have you escape a life-ruining comdtion, or suicide, that these drugs have the potential to induce.
> > Your immediate question as to what you could do in relation to either stopping the drugs or not is not what my intentions are. My presence here is to educate which could give support for you to make your own determination. But look at the end of the road for people that take mind-altering drugs. Can it be known what is at that end? If so, is that where you want to be?
> > Lou
>
> Friends,
> If you are considering being a discussant in this thread or parallel threads, I am requesting that you read the following article. If you could, I think that the information contained in the article could help in understanding some aspects of the discussion.
> Lou
> To see this article,
> A. pull up Google
> B. Type in:
> [Psychotropic Drugs, Cardiac Arrhythmia and Sudden Death]
> There could be many titles of this nature that could come up. In my search it is the second one using Google.
> You will see that it is a PDF by Harry J. Witchel, PHD on 2003 cited by 102 related articles.Friends,
If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you view tthe following video. If you could, I think that lives could be saved and life-ruining conditions could be avoided.
Lou
To see this video,
A. pull up Google
B. Type in;
[World's most dangerous drug (Meth)]
This is a National Geogrphic production and is 3 min on June 25, 2008 if there is more than one that comes up in your search.
Posted by emilyp on January 2, 2011, at 21:33:09
In reply to Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 21:16:14
Lou
I don't your medical condition, but since you are so concerned about heart abnormalities and sudden death, I thought you should look at
Effect of Enzyte on QT and QTc Intervals
August 2010 Archives of Internal MedicineOr, if you want to see that the FDA is looking at whether an HIV cocktail can also cause Cardiac Arrhythmia and Sudden Death, then check out this link
http://www.cardiologytoday.com/view.aspx?rid=61240
And here's one more, just in case you really need convincing.Oral erythromycin and the risk of sudden death from cardiac causes.
New England Journal of Medicine, September 2004Should people stop taking all of these drugs?
Please stop scaring people. In my opinion it is a form of bullying
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2011, at 7:29:47
In reply to Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 21:16:14
> > > > >
> > > > > pigglet,
> > > > > You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> > > > > I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > > > > A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
> > > >
> > > > No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
> > > >
> > > > > B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
> > > >
> > > > Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
> > > >
> > > > > D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
> > > >
> > > > No, I didn't know.
> > > >
> > > > > E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
> > > >
> > > > No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
> > > >
> > > > > F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
> > > >
> > > > > G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
> > > >
> > > > > H. redacted by responent
> > > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > pigglet,
> > > You wrote,[...No, I was not aware of that...Is it just the Adderall?...I didn't know that either... No, I didn't know...I had no idea...I assumed my pharmacist...].
> > > The stats that I have say that about 40,000 people die each year from taking psychotropic drugs by one means or another. This number is unclear to me, for it could be just the people that die in the U.S. each year from these drugs. Now if it is only the US, then by some means of interpolation, there could be 600,000 people that die each year in the world. I base this on that around 2,000,000 people die each year from smoking related deaths and there are about 420,000 people in the US that die each year from smoking related diseases and illnesses aand such. There is also the question as to how many people die each year from psychotropic drugs and their deaths are reported as being from natural causes. They die from such things as cadiac arrest, but if they were taking these drugs, could not the drugs have caused the cardiac arrests? You see, families do not always want there to be a disection of their loved one that died and the funeral is swift without having an expert determine what caused their death. So some people give a 10 to one ratio of if the drugs caused the death. That could mean that then 400,000 people die each year from these drugs, if the figure of 40,000 is only for the U.S.. Some people give 100 to one as the ratio. That could mean then that 4,000,000 people die each year from psychotropic related events. So in the future, depending on how you interpret the stats, millions of people could die from these drugs.
> > > Now the stats do say that the combining of psychhotropic drugs could cause in one way death by what is known as serotonin syndrome. The combination in question could fall into that catagory. You could use http:///www.drugs.com and use the drug interaction tab to see what they say. But there are other ways one could die , and in some cases suddenly, from taking psychotropic drugs.
> > > Now it is my deep conviction that if one was to know as about what these drugs are, and where they came from and for what purpose, and knew of the historical development of them, and what they do to the nevous system and other systems and organs, that one could make a more informed decision as to taking the drugs or not.
> > > I have a very broad background concerning these drugs and could be a partner to help you and could possibly save your life or possibly have you escape a life-ruining comdtion, or suicide, that these drugs have the potential to induce.
> > > Your immediate question as to what you could do in relation to either stopping the drugs or not is not what my intentions are. My presence here is to educate which could give support for you to make your own determination. But look at the end of the road for people that take mind-altering drugs. Can it be known what is at that end? If so, is that where you want to be?
> > > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread or parallel threads, I am requesting that you read the following article. If you could, I think that the information contained in the article could help in understanding some aspects of the discussion.
> > Lou
> > To see this article,
> > A. pull up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [Psychotropic Drugs, Cardiac Arrhythmia and Sudden Death]
> > There could be many titles of this nature that could come up. In my search it is the second one using Google.
> > You will see that it is a PDF by Harry J. Witchel, PHD on 2003 cited by 102 related articles.
>
> Friends,
> If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you view tthe following video. If you could, I think that lives could be saved and life-ruining conditions could be avoided.
> Lou
> To see this video,
> A. pull up Google
> B. Type in;
> [World's most dangerous drug (Meth)]
> This is a National Geogrphic production and is 3 min on June 25, 2008 if there is more than one that comes up in your search.Friends,
The innitiator of this thread posts,[...I hope someone replies..I would appreciate thoughts/comments..].
I am here to offer education to those that ask concerning the aspects of psychotropic drugs. My knowledge of the subject comes from years of study of research and other sources. The most knowledge that I have comes from what my mind has been opened up to. This mind-opening experiance comes from a Jewish perspective that has been granted to me by (redacted by respondent). If I could post here what could have the potential to save your life or the potential to prevent a life-ruining condition or addiction, (redacted by respondent) to do here?
Now the poster in this thread has been prescribed a colletion of drugs. And does that a doctor prescribed them annul the facts of what the drugs could do to someone taken in combination? The research is full of facts that the drugs could be addictive and have the potential for death when combined. As to if a doctor can do that or not, there are cases that answer that question.
There are numerous agencies that give warnings that psychotropic drugs can cause death and more so when combined. When a psychiatrist prescribes as such , the standard used is not if the doctor knows, but the standard is {should the doctor have known}. When a psychitrist prescribes drugs in disregard of the life and safety of the patient, many jurisdictions consider it to be a crime as criminal negligence.
Here is an article that covers some of the cases concerning criminal negligence.
Lou
To see this article,
A. pull up Google
B. Type in;
[When Prescribing Psychotropic Drugs Becomes Criminal Negligence]
There could be many but the one I have read is a PDF, but I use the quick view, and from cchrint
Posted by pigglet on January 3, 2011, at 12:08:45
In reply to Re: Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by emilyp on January 2, 2011, at 21:33:09
Thank you all for your replies. I definitely will talk to my doctor about my medication. However, Lou especially, I am bipolar and have frequent extreme episodes. I've been thinking about this and believe that even if it shortens my life or could cause death, that taking my meds and being happy and stable are more important.
Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2011, at 19:29:49
In reply to Re: Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by pigglet on January 3, 2011, at 12:08:45
Wise decision. I would also do the same. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2011, at 7:07:57
In reply to Re: Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by pigglet on January 3, 2011, at 12:08:45
> Thank you all for your replies. I definitely will talk to my doctor about my medication. However, Lou especially, I am bipolar and have frequent extreme episodes. I've been thinking about this and believe that even if it shortens my life or could cause death, that taking my meds and being happy and stable are more important.
pigglet,
You wrote,[...Thank you..your replies...will talk to my doctor...could cause death..taking (drugs) and being happy and stable are more important...]
The historical record shows that mankind has sought to take drugs to be happy for thousands of years. But the historical record also records the disasterous consequences that could happen to the drug taker seeking to have their mind alterd by chemicals in order to find happiness.
This forum is for education and my goal here to to offer education so that one can make a more informed decision as to take drugs or not in order to be happy. One of the aspects of taking psychotropic drugs is that they can be addictive and dangerous. They could cause a person to go into a mind-alterd state to want to kill themselves and/or others. The drugs can become addictive to the point that trying to get off the drug could be more dangerous than being on the drug. But there becomes a point where by being on the drug, particular adverse reactions can happen from the drug itself. And there are drugs that while the person is taking them, withdrawal symptoms can happen even though the drug is not stopped.
So how long can a person have happiness, if they think that a drug induced state of mind is happinesss, while they are taking the drug? What is at the end of the road for the people taking addictive drugs? Will they be happy when they find themselves faced with the effects of the long-term use of the drug or that they need to get off the drug and there then becomes the withdrawal syndrome?
I am requesting that people who want education concerning addictive psychotropic drugs to see the education depicted in the following video. I am also requesting that if possible for those seeing a psychiatrist that is prescribing mind-altering drugs to them to see if you can watch the following video together. I think that any discussion then that could follow between you could offer more information to have you make a more informed decision as to if you want to take the risk of addiction and the long-term effects of the drugs that could have the potential to cause a life-ruining condition or death.
Lou
to see this video,
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in;
[youtube, add and adhd drugs are dangerous and addictive]
There is a picture and it is 15 min on Nov 2010
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