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Posted by linkadge on December 13, 2010, at 8:31:58
Has anyone with schiophrenia (or other psychotic disorder) noticed that coffee seems to posess antipsychotic qualities?
Linkadge
Posted by Christ_empowered on December 13, 2010, at 10:05:30
In reply to coffee + antipsychotic, posted by linkadge on December 13, 2010, at 8:31:58
I haven't noticed that. Coffee boosts my mood, but too much gives me anxiety and low-grade paranoia; the ill-effects are more pronounced if I've been running on little or no sleep.
Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2010, at 13:13:52
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic, posted by Christ_empowered on December 13, 2010, at 10:05:30
No antipsychotics but coffee alone can't drink too stimulating for me. Phillipa
Posted by mellow on December 13, 2010, at 21:06:51
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic » Christ_empowered, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2010, at 13:13:52
I drink a lot of coffee. It deffinately brightens my mood. However brewing it at home is very important. I use to drink Starbucks and that stuff is extremely potent. 440mg Caffiene for a large which is what I drank. I now drink basic Folgers. Always have a pot on through out the day. I feel great. Not amped and jittery like Starbucks or energy drinks.
I find it can make me a little boisterous and my wife says I talk louder but that's the fun in it! It beats taking a complex cocktail to trying and find spunk through out the day.
Sorry for the long post : )
Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2010, at 22:02:03
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic, posted by mellow on December 13, 2010, at 21:06:51
Starbucks is that potent as after about 25 years had the first panic attack after drinking an iced large Starbucks. I used to grind own beans and brew own coffee and could drink a full pot no anxiety. So all these years I've gone without coffee out of fear of same is it was Starbucks???? Phillipa
Posted by medamorphosis on December 14, 2010, at 15:06:36
In reply to coffee + antipsychotic, posted by linkadge on December 13, 2010, at 8:31:58
> Has anyone with schiophrenia (or other psychotic disorder) noticed that coffee seems to posess antipsychotic qualities?
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> LinkadgePersonally I doubt its good too take any stimulant even caffein. I mean aren't most AP drugs Dopamine antagonist, hence working via lowering dopamine activity? Sounds like a contraindication to me, esp in the long term. Am I missin something? I dont have any psychotic type disorder but I cant see a logical benifit.
med
Posted by Christ_empowered on December 14, 2010, at 16:00:14
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic » linkadge, posted by medamorphosis on December 14, 2010, at 15:06:36
I think mixing neuroleptics plus stimulants can sometimes be helpful, not so much for people with schizophrenia or hardcore mood disorders w/ a psychotic component, but maybe for milder problems.
History Lesson: Back in the 40s-60s/70s, there were a number of products on the market that contained some sort of tranquilizer (low-dose phenothiazine or something else, like meprobamate or a barbiturate) plus an amphetamine of some sort (mostly dexedrine, sometimes methamphetamine).
These products were usually aimed at people w/ mixed anxiety+depression, people who needed a diet pill but couldn't handle amphetamine by itself, or people who had anxiety/panic reaction to stimulants. They fell from favor in the 70s and were taken off the market in the early 80s b/c the FDA had a little fit about overuse of amphetamines.
Some products from back then included: ThoraDex, Eskatrol, Stelladex, and the (in)famous Dexamyl, a favorite of Ayn Rand.
Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2010, at 21:09:51
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic, posted by Christ_empowered on December 14, 2010, at 16:00:14
Never hear of any of them? Probably cause no internet. Think if search there is something on one of them? Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on December 17, 2010, at 18:23:27
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic » Christ_empowered, posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2010, at 21:09:51
Most theory is bunk.
I'm not talking about biochemicals here. I am asking about people who have been experiencing some form of psychosis, who get some form of relief by drinking moderate amounts of coffee.
Linkadge
Posted by medamorphosis on December 17, 2010, at 19:33:23
In reply to Re: coffee + antipsychotic, posted by linkadge on December 17, 2010, at 18:23:27
> Most theory is bunk.
>
> I'm not talking about biochemicals here. I am asking about people who have been experiencing some form of psychosis, who get some form of relief by drinking moderate amounts of coffee.
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> LinkadgeDespite what you're asking, I doubt many people in your case would find it helpfull. I mean, you can give someone a panic attack with the right dose, near 500mg which aint that much. Most hard office workers drink that in a day. Perhapse you'll prove me wrong. If your gonna use caffiene then I really do hope it helps.
med
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