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Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 11:12:41
suicide in my therapy group... what now...
A lady in my group commited suicide yesterday, i gave her my cheese the day before
:( i'm in shock
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 12, 2010, at 12:01:56
In reply to suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 11:12:41
Oh, I'm sorry J, how shocking. How are you feeling?
> suicide in my therapy group... what now...
>
> A lady in my group commited suicide yesterday, i gave her my cheese the day before
>
> :( i'm in shock
Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 12:26:06
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by ed_uk2010 on December 12, 2010, at 12:01:56
not well because of it
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2010, at 12:31:22
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 12:26:06
Jeroen you feel like talking about it here? Maybe we could help? I'm so sorry. Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 12:42:31
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now... » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2010, at 12:31:22
i blame the hospital for suicide and psychiatry, i am right, people suffer 2 much
Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 12:53:55
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now... » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2010, at 12:31:22
i find it terrible you guys
she died at the chapel of nothing (a local chapel here at the clinic)
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 12, 2010, at 13:27:15
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 12:53:55
How are the others coping J?
Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 13:48:17
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by ed_uk2010 on December 12, 2010, at 13:27:15
not well, several people are affected
Posted by Conundrum on December 12, 2010, at 16:31:35
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 13:48:17
> not well, several people are affected
That is awful. You said you gave her your cheese, did she take that with an MAOI?
What did they do wrong that you think led to her death?
Posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 16:40:46
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Conundrum on December 12, 2010, at 16:31:35
the cheese was a gift, because i didnt like to eat it, so i knew she liked it, so i gave it to her
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2010, at 18:02:42
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 16:40:46
Jeroen do they know the cause of death? Don't want to upset you anymore. Write if you like. You know where I am. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on December 13, 2010, at 1:54:54
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now... » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2010, at 18:02:42
no don't know the method, all they know it's a suicide,
Posted by Maxime on December 13, 2010, at 22:38:39
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 16:40:46
> the cheese was a gift, because i didnt like to eat it, so i knew she liked it, so i gave it to her
I am sure she appreciated your kindness.
I am really sorry that this has happened and it is normal for you to feel upset. Are they allowing to discuss how you feel in your therapy group?
I'm thinking of you J.
Your friend, Maxime
Posted by Jeroen on December 14, 2010, at 1:39:05
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now... » Jeroen, posted by Maxime on December 13, 2010, at 22:38:39
yes ive talked to different people about it
but the pain remains
Posted by bleauberry on December 14, 2010, at 16:45:56
In reply to suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by Jeroen on December 12, 2010, at 11:12:41
I'm so sorry Jereon. I've been shocked twice in my life by unexpected suicides. I understand how traumatic it is.
All of us with our illnesses learn how to be strong and do a good fake job. Sometimes we are so good at it others cannot see we are on the edge of ending it all.
On a birthday, a friend brought over a guy and we talked. He said he was a little depressed and the drugs the doc gave him didn't seem to help much. We talked about alternatives....meds, herbs, other doctors, etc. But honestly, it was a light hearted conversation because he really did not look or act like he was depressed. I know what depression looks like, and I just didn't see it. Two days later, his sister came to me sobbing in tears saying he "was gone"....he had hung himself in his apartment.
I'm sorry Jereon.
Posted by Maxime on December 19, 2010, at 18:25:12
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now... » Jeroen, posted by Maxime on December 13, 2010, at 22:38:39
Hi there, I am checking in with you to see how you are doing regarding the loss of your friend. Are they helping you deal with it? It must be hard for them because I imagine that some of the patients would become very upset if forced to talk about it. While other patients need to talk about it. Overall not a good situation.
I lost a friend in the fall to an OD and an eating disorder. I am still not over it.
Posted by Jeroen on December 20, 2010, at 2:02:28
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by bleauberry on December 14, 2010, at 16:45:56
i'm starting to wonder IF there is a decent treatment for us all...
i will try the Glycine, let's see
Posted by roscopeeco on December 23, 2010, at 0:59:42
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by bleauberry on December 14, 2010, at 16:45:56
> I'm so sorry Jereon. I've been shocked twice in my life by unexpected suicides. I understand how traumatic it is.
>
> All of us with our illnesses learn how to be strong and do a good fake job. Sometimes we are so good at it others cannot see we are on the edge of ending it all.
>
> On a birthday, a friend brought over a guy and we talked. He said he was a little depressed and the drugs the doc gave him didn't seem to help much. We talked about alternatives....meds, herbs, other doctors, etc. But honestly, it was a light hearted conversation because he really did not look or act like he was depressed. I know what depression looks like, and I just didn't see it. Two days later, his sister came to me sobbing in tears saying he "was gone"....he had hung himself in his apartment.
>
> I'm sorry Jereon.
I wonder if he was just rx'ed the meds. If so, he probably had a reaction to SSRI's similar to me. They make me really bad before they start helping. Regardless, these stories are so painful to hear. We all want to alleviate suffering and sometimes are suffering seems validated by these actions. Depression is serious and governments need to take a hard look at it and forget about the moral implications of making better drugs that can actually end human suffering from a mental illness.jf
Posted by Jeroen on December 23, 2010, at 4:23:25
In reply to Re: suicide in my therapy group... what now..., posted by roscopeeco on December 23, 2010, at 0:59:42
its all about the money i think
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