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Posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:23:53
I take 60mg of Adderall IR every day and I am quitting it. Just like that- I'm quitting. I've noticed that I've started using it improperly, can't control myself with it and I'm done. I'm not about to develop an addiction. I have a baby daughter. Is there anything I can do to lesson the absolute agony I am about to face? I thought of amineptine, but I think cross-tolerance would render that ineffective. I have curcurim and Namenda to use, but I know this is going to be absolutely terrible- and over Christmas, too. I have a job and a baby to take care of. This snuck up on me. Any tips on getting through it? Any tips on getting through it and minimizing the crushing depression? Thanks
Posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:25:44
In reply to Adderall- quitting cold turkey- HELP!, posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:23:53
I will repost it there
Posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2010, at 0:01:14
In reply to Just realized there is a withdrawal forum- oops, posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:25:44
Not on babble anymore message fine on this board. Phillipa
Posted by AgentScully on December 8, 2010, at 2:40:41
In reply to Re: Just realized there is a withdrawal forum- oops » AgentScully, posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2010, at 0:01:14
I noticed that, thanks
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 8, 2010, at 8:22:47
In reply to Adderall- quitting cold turkey- HELP!, posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:23:53
> I take 60mg of Adderall IR every day and I am quitting it. Just like that- I'm quitting. I've noticed that I've started using it improperly, can't control myself with it and I'm done. I'm not about to develop an addiction. I have a baby daughter. Is there anything I can do to lesson the absolute agony I am about to face? I thought of amineptine, but I think cross-tolerance would render that ineffective. I have curcurim and Namenda to use, but I know this is going to be absolutely terrible- and over Christmas, too. I have a job and a baby to take care of. This snuck up on me. Any tips on getting through it? Any tips on getting through it and minimizing the crushing depression? Thanks
AS,
You wrote,[...Adderall..quiting..is there anything I can do...an addiction..any tips..minimizing the ..depression..?].
The drug comes from amphetamine and the consequences to those taking amphetamine to the point of addiction are well-documented in the liturature. Look up amphetamine and see if it can cause death.
Now your decision to quit taking the drug now presents that problem of the effects from the previous taking of the drug. The withdrawal syndrome is well-documented in the liturature.
Now as you look ahead, you could try to be free from the drug and withdrawal by human achievement. But in my experiance, I have known of people that while in withdrawal they enter a realm of such horror thatthey want to kill themselves. So I try to help them enter a new realm. A realm of peace and hope and joy where one receives a new heart, a new spirit, a new mind and they sing a new song.
I am not permitted by the rules here drafted by Mr. Hsiung to post such here because it comes from a Jewish perspective in relation to the foundation of Judaism in that I believe, through revelation, that the God that I give service and worship to has given me a commandment that I (redacted by respondent). And also I am not permitted to post here where you could find elsewhere what I am not permitted to post here.
But I do want you to live and be free from the drug so I do want you to know that it is possible to do so. And I also want you to know that since I am not permitted to post here what I think could save your life, (redacted by respondent).
Lou
Posted by AgentScully on December 8, 2010, at 10:28:53
In reply to Lou's response-psareigh » AgentScully, posted by Lou Pilder on December 8, 2010, at 8:22:47
Thanks Lou. I need a remedy that will put my dopaminergic system at ease, at least enough to keep me from suicidal depression as a consequence of withdrawal. I don't think I would actually be suicidal, but I don't know. I had a baby 10 weeks ago and suffer from post-partum depression underneath all of the stimulation. I am on an SSRI, but that's the wrong chemical. I just want to be a good mother and a happy person. I got overwhelmed with life and it happened. I've only been on it a short few weeks, so maybe it won't be as bad. Prayer is also a good thing.
Posted by fachad on December 8, 2010, at 19:45:45
In reply to Adderall- quitting cold turkey- HELP!, posted by AgentScully on December 7, 2010, at 23:23:53
I don't think you will have as much trouble as you think. Stimulants, unlike opiates, don't have horrific physical withdrawal symptoms.
I've missed, forgotten, or just deliberately skipped my Dexadrine dose (50 mg/day for 10 years) and hardly noticed anything but lethargy, apathy, and a tinge of melancholy.
It's not like opiates where you have body aches, runny nose, diarrhea, and feel miserable.
Stimulants, taken orally, in medically approved doses are not really physically addictive.
Now if you tried to quit Paxil (or any SSRI, AP, or AD) cold turkey, you'd be in for a miserable hellish nightmare (brain zaps, body aches, flu like symptoms) that might last for months or even years.
But oral CNS stimulants...not that big of a deal.
It pisses me off that pdocs don't tell people how addictive SSRIs are; and how they are reluctant to RX stimulants.
Posted by fachad on December 8, 2010, at 19:47:57
In reply to Re: Adderall- quitting cold turkey- HELP!, posted by fachad on December 8, 2010, at 19:45:45
see my above post.
Posted by AgentScully on December 9, 2010, at 1:42:56
In reply to Above post - should be pretty easy, posted by fachad on December 8, 2010, at 19:47:57
Unfortunately, the Adderall is covering up for some mean post partum depression. This is going to be ugly...
Posted by Christ_empowered on December 9, 2010, at 8:57:35
In reply to Ohhh, I think it's going to be pretty brutal..., posted by AgentScully on December 9, 2010, at 1:42:56
can you use something tranquilizing? Niacinamide, valerian, maybe get a short-term Rx a benzo? Its kind of counter-intuitive, but sedatives help during stimulant withdrawal.
Posted by AgentScully on December 9, 2010, at 15:51:48
In reply to Re: Ohhh, I think it's going to be pretty brutal..., posted by Christ_empowered on December 9, 2010, at 8:57:35
Here is my protocol for withdrawal
curcurim
baclofen
memantine
clonazepam
hydrocodone (this I have to take as of yesterday- passing another kidney stone)
It won't be so bad with a narcotic, not that I'm enjoying the stone. I used to get them so I stopped taking calcium, but when I got pregnant, I resumed the calcium. Now, 10 weeks post-partum- they're back.
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