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Posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 7:24:42
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster » Brainbeard, posted by linkadge on October 24, 2010, at 12:51:59
> Thats funny that you said dexidrine has enhanced religious sensitivity.
>Another thing, which, I think, I haven't mentioned here before, is that Ritalin/Concerta triggers homosexual ideation in me. Very peculiar. I am not gay, and it's not something I am particularly happy about.
Posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 7:26:41
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster, posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 7:24:42
> Another thing, which, I think, I haven't mentioned here before, is that Ritalin/Concerta triggers homosexual ideation in me. Very peculiar. I am not gay, and it's not something I am particularly happy about.To clarify further: of course I have homosexual tendencies to begin with, it's just that they're being triggered by methylphenidate. Smoking pot triggers them
likewise, and I find the methylphenidate rush akin to the marijuana high.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on October 25, 2010, at 13:57:48
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster, posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 7:24:42
>Ritalin/Concerta triggers homosexual ideation in me.
'Homosexual ideation' hahaha. I suppose that's one way of putting it. Very clinical. It reminds me of the drama surrounding Prozac triggering suicidal ideation.
Posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 14:38:13
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster » Brainbeard, posted by ed_uk2010 on October 25, 2010, at 13:57:48
> 'Homosexual ideation' hahaha. I suppose that's one way of putting it. Very clinical. It reminds me of the drama surrounding Prozac triggering suicidal ideation.
>I was thinking about putting 'ideation' between brackets, but thought that would spoil the humour.
Posted by sukarno on October 27, 2010, at 19:35:28
In reply to psychiatry is a joked dreamed up by Kafka +Abilify, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 21, 2010, at 2:52:11
> So I've been seeing this GP who strongly advocates ADD recognition, and who I advised that I experiment with the left-over dexedrine I had over this past week.
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> "Awakening" wouldn't really be too strong a word to describe my experience (as with all stimulants) - I rapidly transform from a motivationless, foggy, intellectually wanting patient into a bright, dynamic, high-functioning individual. I've struggled to finish a single book over the past year and a half, yet am able to bound through and process information on stimulants to a degree I've never experienced before. Despite being academically gifted, I've never been able to read for longer than 45 minutes at a time, but can read for two hours+ with ease on stimulants.
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> So I tell my psychiatrist this today, and her response is that "stimulants improve everyone's intelligence .. that's why they're abused in America". She then writes me a script for abilify and says that that should help fix my concentration problems.
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> I smiled, nodded politely and left, and then came home and felt like putting my fist through the wall.
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> Is that an extreme reaction? It seems like every step I take forwards, I'm being forced back three. Every door I open leads to a brick wall.
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> Do I try the abilify? I'm wound up and unable to sleep on the clomipramine, so is it just gonna make things worse? I don't wanna take it out of spite, but I know that's an immature stance.
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> I'm seeing the ADD guy again tomorrow because he's looking at arranging a referral treatment for me. I think that if the next psychiatrist I meet doesn't wanna listen to me, then I give up. After 8+ psychiatrists, I have not met a single one who offers me more than lip service, who seems to care about the wellbeing of me as a person, who will listen, pay attention, or exhibit anything resembling a soul.
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>If you live in or near Atlanta (or are willing to travel that far), Dr. Darvin Hege, M.D. is a psychiatrist who prescribes Ritalin, Vyvanse and other stimulants for ADD. He considers himself to be an ADD specialist (or certainly gives that impression as his website has an "adult ADD" questionnaire consisting of several questions). I failed all the questions, but I have panic disorder and heart palpitations so I think stimulants are contraindicated for me. Even caffeine, a weak stimulant by comparison, sends my heart out of rhythm sometimes.
Posted by sukarno on October 27, 2010, at 19:38:19
In reply to Re: psychiatry is a joked dreamed up by Kafka +Abilify » g_g_g_unit, posted by sukarno on October 27, 2010, at 19:35:28
Dr. Darvin Hege, M.D.
2150-P Peachford Road
Atlanta, GA 30338, United States
(770) 458-0007
Posted by Phillipa on October 27, 2010, at 20:42:32
In reply to Re: psychiatry is a joked dreamed up by Kafka +Abilify » sukarno, posted by sukarno on October 27, 2010, at 19:38:19
Was thinking about you yesterday. Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on October 28, 2010, at 13:21:51
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster » linkadge, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 24, 2010, at 20:42:56
>Sorry if this is a dumb (almost to the point of >ironic) question, but what does psychotic >thinking on stims look like?
Strange fears and thinking that doesn't make sense. First I think something illogical, like perhaps "I'm dead right now", in the early stages I just shrug the thought off. Later, the thought starts to twist itself and becomes something that I can't think my way out of.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on October 28, 2010, at 13:31:19
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster, posted by Brainbeard on October 25, 2010, at 7:24:42
>Another thing, which, I think, I haven't >mentioned here before, is that Ritalin/Concerta >triggers homosexual ideation in me. Very >peculiar. I am not gay, and it's not something I >am particularly happy about.
Thats interesting. What is "gay" thought? I personally think every brain is capable of sexual feelings towards both genders and that shifts in biochemical function can change ones preference. I have given up on rejecting my shifting feelings and just go with the flow.
I'm not trying to suggest how you should feel, rather I am just sharing that I do have similar experiences with psychotopics changing what I am attracted to.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk2010 on October 28, 2010, at 14:10:13
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster » Brainbeard, posted by linkadge on October 28, 2010, at 13:31:19
>I am just sharing that I do have similar experiences with psychotopics changing what I am attracted to.
That's interesting. Can you give an example? Sorry if too personal. I've familiar with meds decreasing desire, but not changing the focus of attraction.
Posted by Brainbeard on October 28, 2010, at 15:00:05
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster » Brainbeard, posted by linkadge on October 28, 2010, at 13:31:19
> > I am not gay, and it's not something I am particularly happy about.
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> Thats interesting. What is "gay" thought? I personally think every brain is capable of sexual feelings towards both genders and that shifts in biochemical function can change ones preference. I have given up on rejecting my shifting feelings and just go with the flow.
I agree with the idea of a sexual spectrum, with hetero- and homosexuality at the extremes which as absolutes are rare in real life. 'I am not gay' may have been a bit of a poor statement, expressing nonetheless a decision of not wanting to ground my sexual identity in attraction to the same sex. I value decision, for which the Greek-derived 'crisis' is a synonym, highly.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on October 28, 2010, at 15:14:54
In reply to TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave, posted by Brainbeard on October 28, 2010, at 15:00:05
>'I am not gay' may have been a bit of a poor statement, expressing nonetheless a decision of not wanting to ground my sexual identity in attraction to the same sex.
And perhaps you wanted to say 'I do not subscribe to conventional gay culture'?
Posted by g_g_g_unit on October 30, 2010, at 2:23:52
In reply to Re: They Stole My Brain And Put It In A Toaster, posted by linkadge on October 28, 2010, at 13:21:51
> Strange fears and thinking that doesn't make sense. First I think something illogical, like perhaps "I'm dead right now", in the early stages I just shrug the thought off. Later, the thought starts to twist itself and becomes something that I can't think my way out of.
>So the thoughts occur as absolutes rather than arising from doubt/uncertainty? I'm just curious because I get strange thoughts via my OCD along the lines you describe, e.g. "How do I know I'm a real person?", but they arise more as ego dystonic questions which trap me in rumination, rather than actual beliefs. I'm just curious about what I should look out for as danger signs on stims.
Posted by Brainbeard on October 30, 2010, at 7:34:53
In reply to Re: stim psychosis » linkadge, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 30, 2010, at 2:23:52
> I'm just curious about what I should look out for as danger signs on stims.
>Not to answer the question in Linkadge's place, far from it, but when I was on selegiline without an SRI to counter the obsessive-compulsive side-effects, I got a disastruous mix of OCD and drive.
At one point, I was terrified of coming in our shed because of the *possibility* that asbestos material had ever been stacked
there.And I got on the verge of ringing the doorbell at our backyard neighbours because I thought they may *perhaps* have asbestos plates lying on the roof of their shed and *perhaps* they we're gonna saw in that material.
While on selegiline, I saw asbestos everywhere.Dextroamphetamine can paradoxically help me to endure stuff that would otherwise make me depressed as hell or scare the sh*t out of me. But that's only when I can concentrate on a task that I like at least a little bit. I had to take care of a hyperactive foster brother once, taking him to a playground. I hated it and felt unable to entertain him. He started banging with a stick on a large kind of xylophone built into a playhouse. I was terrified of having my hearing damaged. Dex only made it worse for me in that situation.
Posted by g_g_g_unit on October 30, 2010, at 22:31:27
In reply to Re: stim psychosis, posted by Brainbeard on October 30, 2010, at 7:34:53
> Dextroamphetamine can paradoxically help me to endure stuff that would otherwise make me depressed as hell or scare the sh*t out of me. But that's only when I can concentrate on a task that I like at least a little bit. I had to take care of a hyperactive foster brother once, taking him to a playground. I hated it and felt unable to entertain him. He started banging with a stick on a large kind of xylophone built into a playhouse. I was terrified of having my hearing damaged. Dex only made it worse for me in that situation.Yeah, as much as Dex amplifies the positive, I'm sure it will jack up the negative. I know that if I'm feeling angry, or caught in depression-related ruminations, Dex will turn me into a snappy jerk of a son/sibling. That's why my doctor's so emphatic that people retune their internal/external environment before he's willing to place them on stimulants.
You aren't a fan of CBT, are you Brainbeard? Have you ever tried it? I've dipped my feet in over the years, and have picked up some techniques, though would like to commit to it properly at some point . I found that Dex helped me regulate my attention to the point where CBT became a lot easier to implement. If I wasn't careful, and let my mind drift towards my obsessions, I'd get caught up in them, so I had to practice a degree of self-awareness. I'd imagine Dex would be a good tool in combination with therapy.
Posted by Brainbeard on October 31, 2010, at 14:08:12
In reply to Re: stim psychosis » Brainbeard, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 30, 2010, at 22:31:27
> You aren't a fan of CBT, are you Brainbeard? Have you ever tried it?Oh sure. While on Paxil, I had two years' training of CBT and exposure therapy, and was nearly OCD-free at that point. Then I quit Paxil, became depressed as hell, and eventually resorted to good ol' OCD again.
Recently I've had daytime therapy for three months based on CBT and exposure as well. This time, my fears seemed impossible to catch in a CBT scheme.
It's just so damn hard to change a brain. I'm still hoping for a therapeutic biochemical lobotomy..
Posted by Brainbeard on November 1, 2010, at 6:56:29
In reply to Re: TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave » Brainbeard, posted by ed_uk2010 on October 28, 2010, at 15:14:54
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> And perhaps you wanted to say 'I do not subscribe to conventional gay culture'?
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Hm, no, that's not really it. I am 'gay-friendly'. Although I'm not parfticularly fond of the gay pride thing in Amsterdam. But I have a gay friend who doesn't like it either, so there you go.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 1, 2010, at 14:25:31
In reply to Re: TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave, posted by Brainbeard on November 1, 2010, at 6:56:29
>Although I'm not particularly fond of the gay pride thing in Amsterdam. But I have a gay friend who doesn't like it either, so there you go.
I expect they turn it into a circus. Slightly embarrasing.
Posted by g_g_g_unit on November 1, 2010, at 21:14:26
In reply to Re: stim psychosis, posted by Brainbeard on October 31, 2010, at 14:08:12
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> > You aren't a fan of CBT, are you Brainbeard? Have you ever tried it?
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> Oh sure. While on Paxil, I had two years' training of CBT and exposure therapy, and was nearly OCD-free at that point. Then I quit Paxil, became depressed as hell, and eventually resorted to good ol' OCD again.
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> Recently I've had daytime therapy for three months based on CBT and exposure as well. This time, my fears seemed impossible to catch in a CBT scheme.
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> It's just so damn hard to change a brain. I'm still hoping for a therapeutic biochemical lobotomy..My apologies. I shouldn't have been so presumptuous. Sometimes, it's easier to doll out advice to others from the safety of one's perch than to actually apply self-change. I was in therapy for 9 months last year, but too depressed to really capitalize on it.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 2, 2010, at 7:59:28
In reply to Re: stim psychosis » Brainbeard, posted by g_g_g_unit on November 1, 2010, at 21:14:26
> My apologies. I shouldn't have been so presumptuous. Sometimes, it's easier to doll out advice to others from the safety of one's perch than to actually apply self-change. I was in therapy for 9 months last year, but too depressed to really capitalize on it.
>No apologies needed, partner. My answer was a bit tongue in cheek - showing off with all the therapy I've had.. It's hard to capitalize therapy indeed. That's why I'm resorting to pills as a shortcut.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 2, 2010, at 14:22:51
In reply to Re: TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave, posted by Brainbeard on November 1, 2010, at 6:56:29
>TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave
I hope the power was turned to low.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 2, 2010, at 16:29:12
In reply to Re: TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave » Brainbeard, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 2, 2010, at 14:22:51
> >TheyStoleMyTesticlesAndPutThemInTheMicrowave
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> I hope the power was turned to low.
>Finally! How ridiculous do I have to make my post titles to get a reaction?!
Thanks Ed, you're priceless.
Posted by PartlyCloudy on November 2, 2010, at 17:35:37
In reply to Priceless, posted by Brainbeard on November 2, 2010, at 16:29:12
Sorry, I don't usually read this board and hadn't read your thread. I still haven't read beyond the obvious post titles to any of the content.
What type of reaction are you looking for?
PartlyCloudy
Posted by Brainbeard on November 3, 2010, at 2:11:49
In reply to Re: Priceless » Brainbeard, posted by PartlyCloudy on November 2, 2010, at 17:35:37
> Sorry, I don't usually read this board and hadn't read your thread. I still haven't read beyond the obvious post titles to any of the content.
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> What type of reaction are you looking for?
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> PartlyCloudy
Beg your pardon? Any reaction is fine, really, no reaction is cool too. I was mostly kidding.
Posted by PartlyCloudy on November 3, 2010, at 7:02:13
In reply to Kidding (Mostly), posted by Brainbeard on November 3, 2010, at 2:11:49
> > Sorry, I don't usually read this board and hadn't read your thread. I still haven't read beyond the obvious post titles to any of the content.
> >
> > What type of reaction are you looking for?
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> > PartlyCloudy
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> Beg your pardon? Any reaction is fine, really, no reaction is cool too. I was mostly kidding.
>OK, then! Just as long as no one gets hurt :-)
Take care
pc
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