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Posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
Please can someone who knows tell me whether I can expect any help from Niacinamide for horrible xanax anxiety from ? tolerance withdrawal.
I feel horrible with anxiety attacks almost every day and very debilitating depression along with it :(((( I don't want to live this way any more.
Tx, Abby
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2010, at 0:28:24
In reply to Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
Abby stay on the xanax it works why be miserable? Phillipa
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 17, 2010, at 2:27:56
In reply to Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
2 grams, 3x dailiy, for a total of 6 grams. It helps a lot. I also take abilify.
Posted by sigismund on September 17, 2010, at 15:52:23
In reply to Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
I have had some success with a couple of grammes of GABA powder under the tongue at bedtime.
It actually does work (even though some people say it does not, being allegedly too large to cross the BBB) and deepens sleep somewhat, making the next day easier.
Posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 18:50:39
In reply to Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
I'm sorry to hear that the anxiety is so bad. You should come off the Xanax VERY slowly. Seriously, coming off can be hell. Good luck.
Posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 18:51:54
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety? » Abby Cunningham, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2010, at 0:28:24
> Abby stay on the xanax it works why be miserable? Phillipa
I think was saying that the Xanax was making her anxiety worse and that is why she wants to come off it.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2010, at 19:27:03
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety? » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 18:51:54
I'll have to let her answer that question herself. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 21:27:45
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety? » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2010, at 19:27:03
> I'll have to let her answer that question herself. Phillipa
Just read the first post.
Posted by Abby Cunningham on September 18, 2010, at 1:30:45
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety? » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 21:27:45
Sorry Phillipa and Maxime, I did not see this until now.
Yes Maxime you are correct. Tolerance does develop often to benzos, and I feel as though I might be tolerant after 5 years on 1.5 mg, (where the dosage either needs to be increased, or decide to taper off the drug).
My psychiatrist surprised me tonight by actually calling me at home. I think she read my email or listened to my voicemail and decided I sounded pretty desperate. I was. She said it would be okay to try the niacinamide, as I am resisting more pharmacuticals now. So tomorrow I'll buy it with some B-complex vitamins and see how that does.
I'll keep you all posted. I know the hell of xanax withdrawal; actually I tapered from 3mg. -equivalent of 60mg.. valium, to 1.5 mg. equivalent of 30mg. valium. I used the Ashton crossover slowly to valium and that was a big mistake. I cannot tolerate valium; way too depressing. I tapered off xanax alone years ago and did not have nearly as hard of a time as tapering valium.
I am not looking to taper off xanax, (can't bear the thought of withdrawals again) just to supplement it and hopefully knock out the anxiety with the niacinamide. I have been about paralyzed with depression and fears which come on me almost every day.
Thanks for your concern,
Abby
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2010, at 19:56:28
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 18, 2010, at 1:30:45
Abby I'm sorry and hoping this works for you I know how much you dislike being on xanax. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on September 19, 2010, at 0:17:09
In reply to i take niacinamide...., posted by Christ_empowered on September 17, 2010, at 2:27:56
> 2 grams, 3x dailiy, for a total of 6 grams. It helps a lot. I also take abilify.
>
>In what way does it help? Is it supposed to help with anxiety?
Posted by Maxime on September 19, 2010, at 0:21:42
In reply to Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 16, 2010, at 23:36:00
Forgot to mention. When you are coming of a benzo and things get really bad. just break off or bite off a very small portion of the Xanax. Even if you have to do this a couple of time a day, so be it. It will help. When I was coming off Xanax it was the WORST. I was even throwing up etc. Not pleasant. You have to come off the med really slowly. I feel for you, I truly do.
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 19, 2010, at 0:28:57
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety? » Abby Cunningham, posted by Maxime on September 19, 2010, at 0:21:42
high doses of niacinamide (several grams per day) can help you relax. I read somewhere that it appears to work through some of the same mechanisms that benzos work through.
The niacinamide helps me relax and makes my medication (Abilify) work better at keeping things manageable. The niacinamide also seems to help my skin (weirdly enough, niacinamide has become a popular ingredient in skin care recently; my rosacea responds well to high doses of oral niacinamide).
I've found in the past that using niacinamide along with a benzo makes both substances work better; you get more mileage out of the benzo and benzo potentiates the anxiolytic effects of the niacinamide.
Posted by Maxime on September 19, 2010, at 1:06:12
In reply to niacinamide and anxiety, posted by Christ_empowered on September 19, 2010, at 0:28:57
Thank you, that is really interesting. Maybe I will try taking some at night to help me relax so that I can sleep.
Posted by Abby Cunningham on September 19, 2010, at 20:09:21
In reply to niacinamide and anxiety, posted by Christ_empowered on September 19, 2010, at 0:28:57
Yes I have heard the same thing about Niacinamide being as effective as a benzodiazepine! What a claim! Although I am not so sure it is that powerful, my doctor told me to give it a try. It supposedly does behave the same as a benzo but is not addictive. And it can help someone who is tapering down a benzo.
I am not so sure I will go completely off the xanax, but I hope to cut down by 1mg. down to half a mg. Hoping this will work. I heard that you also need to take a B-complex with it to enable it to be effective.
Posted by Phillipa on September 19, 2010, at 20:28:25
In reply to Re: niacinamide and anxiety » Christ_empowered, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 19, 2010, at 20:09:21
Well that sure will be something to see when you trying the supplement as if it works will also try it. Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on September 20, 2010, at 18:19:38
In reply to Re: Can B3 Niacinamide help horrible benzo anxiety?, posted by sigismund on September 17, 2010, at 15:52:23
I agree...gaba actually does work.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on September 20, 2010, at 18:23:06
In reply to Re: niacinamide and anxiety » Christ_empowered, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 19, 2010, at 20:09:21
I find niacin easier to tollerate than benzos. I don't get depression on it, and it can work suprisingly well.
Not everybody develops tollerance to benzos though, at least not overnight for everbody.
I took clonazepam 1mg for about a year with pretty consistent anxiety effects. I came off it because of depression, not lack of effect.
I think the tollerance to benzos is overplayed a little because of the desire to switch people to "less addicting SSRIs"
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on September 20, 2010, at 18:55:39
In reply to Re: niacinamide and anxiety, posted by linkadge on September 20, 2010, at 18:23:06
Me too but would niacin help a benzo work that the person is tolerant to? Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on September 25, 2010, at 15:23:45
In reply to niacinamide and anxiety, posted by Christ_empowered on September 19, 2010, at 0:28:57
What dosage do you need to feel a positive effect. I know that it will be different for everyone, but I am just looking for a ball park figure.
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 25, 2010, at 17:59:43
In reply to dosage?, posted by Maxime on September 25, 2010, at 15:23:45
500 milligrams--2 grams 3x daily. Some people--particularly those with schizophrenia--can take more.
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